Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 17:41:35 CDT
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Subject:
common everyday coleus
didn’t see my previous post, so if this is redundant
please forgive me.
The following entry was included in a book called "recreationsal
drugs."
"When psilocybin mushrooms are in short supply, and users are
willing
to settle for a milder but similar mind excursion, they sometimes turn
to the
coleus plant, particularly the species coleus blumei and coleus
pumila. the mazatec indians of
southern mexico have been tripping on this
psychedelic mint for years.
It takes
about fifty to severnty large, colorful leaves of the coleus
plant to get someone going. They
can be chewed thoroughly and swallowed.
If one prefers, the leaves can also be smoked and
steeped in lukewarm water for
for about an hour, after which the liquid is strained and
drunk.
No one is exactly sure what gives coleus its psychoactive kick, but we do
know that only fresh leaves will work. Dried leaves have virtually no
effect.
While the drug has no really unpleasant or dangerous side effects, some
people do feel a
degree of nausea about a half hour after getting it down
But the nausea goes away quickly and
is soon replaced by a trippy,
psilocybin-like state, colorful visual hallucinations and
patterns, and
telepathic and clairvoyant insights. The entire trip lasts for about
two
hours.
Coleus plants can be purchased legally at most garden centers. Thos with
green thumbs, who aren’t too stoned to exercise them, might purchase
some seeds to grow their
own."
has anyone done any experimentation with the coleus plant?
glen
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From: masc0270@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Christopher Hooten)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: coleus — hallucinogenic?
Date: 25 May 1994 22:46:17 GMT
Message-ID:
<2s0kfp$rve@pandora.sdsu.edu>
[quoted text deleted -cak]
I bet you
read this in _Recreational Drugs_, didn’t you? A FOAF
tried this by steeping the leaves in
warm water, and drinking it.
There was little or no effect. However, the same book above
lists
that the chemistry may be very similar between coleus and salvia
divinorum
(diviner’s sage). I have heard you should crush up the
leaves and put them in the side of your
mouth for about 15 minutes
to let it soak through your lips and gums (with the salvia
divinorum),
so possibly this method might work for the coleus as well. If
anyone tries
this, please post the results.
— Chris
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From:
cddugan@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU (chris dugan)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject:
Re: Salvia Divinoram
Date: 26 May 1994 06:40:03 GMT
Message-ID:
<2s1g83$ojt@carbon.denver.colorado.edu>
Alan L. Bostick (abostick@netcom.com)
wrote:
: Jody_Radzik@morph.com (Jody Radzik) writes:
: >I just read that this
common houseplant has hallucinogenic properties?
: >Does anyone know about this and if so
could you share it with us? Thanx.
: From GROWING THE HALLUCINOGENS - HOW TO CULTIVATE
AND HARVEST LEGAL
: PSYCHOACTIVE PLANTS by Hudson Grubber (20th Century Alchemist, dist. by
: "PIPILTZINTZINTLI
: Mint family (Labiatae)
: "A
woody perennial herb 4 to 6 feet tall with square, hollow stems. The
: leaves are dark green,
6 to 8 inches long, with toothed edges. The flowers
: are blue of white on spikes. Only found
cultivated by sorcerors in an
: isolated area in southern Mexico.
:
"CULTIVATION AND PROPAGATION: It is propagated in much the same manner as
: coleus. It
needs a loose, rich soil. It is best grown as a tub plant
: and brought indoors when the
weather begins to cool. It may be grown
: outdoors in frost-free areas. This salvia is
generally grown from cuttings,
: but I know of one instance in which it was grown from seed.
The seed should
: be germinated in the same way as coleus. Cuttings should be taken in
: spring, after the plant has had a lot of sun. Cut 1/2-inch below a node and
: root in no
more than an inch of water. A pinch of rootone may be added to
: the water and shaken well to
dissolve it. This will help prevent stem
: rot and will stimulate rooting. When the roots are
1/4-inch long, the
: cutting should be potted. Longer roots may be damaged. Plant in a
2-inch
: pot with good potting soil. Grows rapidly after the roots are established.
: I
have found that this plant is susceptible to stem rot, if over-watered.
: It is often attacked
by aphids, white flies, spider mites and mealy-bugs.
: "HARVESTING: Harvesting the
leaves for use as a hallucinogen should not
: be attempted until one has at least four
one-year-old plants. An equal
: number of leaves should be harvested from each plant so that
the shock to
: one plant will not be great. Dosage may vary; begin with 10-20 fresh
:
leaves. Fresh leaves are used, as the active principle is believed to
: be unstable.
Considering the rarity of the plant, the leaves should be
: chewed, because when the juices
are expressed much of the active
: principle is wasted."
: It does not
sound from this as if this is a "common household plant."
: This is the
complete entry on the plant from this source. Nothing about
: effects or chemistry,
unfortunately.
: Alan Bostick
: abostick@netcom.com
Here is the
entry under "Pipilzintzintli" in "Legal Highs: A
concise encyclopedia of legal
herbs and chemicals with psychoactive
properties" by 20th Century Alchemist, High
Times/Level Press, 1973.
MATERIAL: Leaves of plant found in southern Mexico. Also used
for same
effect are leaves of Coleus blumei and Coleus pumila, common house plants.
or crushed and
soaked in 1 pt. water for 1 hr., strained and drunk. If
osterizer is available leaves may be
liquefied in water.
ACTIVE CONSTITUENTS: Uncertain, believed to be an unstable
crystalline
polyhydric alcohol.
EFFECTS: Similar to psilocybin with colorful
vsiual patterns, but milder
and lasting only 2 hours.
CONTRAINDICATIONS: Some
people experience nausea during first half hour;
otherwise no unpleasant or harmful side
effects known.
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From:
Keith <keith@marlin.ssnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: coleus —
hallucinogenic?
Date: 26 May 1994 00:28:58 GMT
Message-ID:
<2s0qga$keh@marlin.ssnet.com>
[quoted text deleted -cak]
At the risk
of sounding very foolish, I will admit to having tried Coleus
tea about twenty years ago. The
line at the time was that there were
uncharacterized polyols in the leaves responsible for the
high. It
*could* have been entirely placebo, but I swear I experienced something
very
similar to a mild psilocin dose. Angular repeating geometric
patterns on walls (if I looked
for them) and the like. The dose you
mention is about what I tried and I only tried it
once.
For what it is worth…
–keith
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