Greetings,
I am new to the forums here and this discussion really piqued my interests. I had a broken back a couple years ago and since then I have had a pretty much never ending prescription for Hydrocodone/APAP 7.5/325. What I am wondering is if the CWE process listed above would be valid for extraction with the Hydrocodone in order to eliminate the acetaminophen (APAP) portion of it. The doctors tell me that it will most likely cause a lot of liver and kidney damage over the years so I am curious to see if it is possible to get the good stuff from it without the need for the Tylenol part. I am hesitant about trying the Agent Lemon process because I am not to partial to the idea of mixing my medications with lighter fluid and ammonia then drinking the result. Call me prude, but it just doesn't sound like something I am willing to risk without seeing some one that I trust do it first.
Thanks in advance.
The main reason I ask is because of this part of the Erowid extraction page:
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It appears that acetaminophen (paracetamol, APAP) doesn't survive the acid-base extraction process and so either of the above acid-base processes, preferrably Agent Lemon, may work. However, I wouldn't bet my life on it, and if you try this without some means of testing for acetaminophen in the final product, that's exactly what you will be doing.
If you want to try this out, find yourself a lab that can test for acetaminophen and do some research. It may be possible to test for acetaminophen, then again this test may not be effective. See Section 11.3 for one reader's suggestion.
The other option is to use acetaminophen's low solubility in cold water to your advantage (this is frequently done by people who extract the codeine from codeine+acetaminophen tablets). The theory is that if you take your product dissolved in water and chill it to near freezing, the acetaminophen will become insoluble, and you can filter it out. If you want to try this, do it with the end product of the Agent Lemon process; chilling cough syrup will leave you with a thick goo that isn't easily filtered.
Again, let me emphasize: go ahead and try this if you have access to a lab that can test for acetaminophen; otherwise, don't risk liver damage or death. It's relatively easy to get cough syrups without acetaminophen anyway.
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EDIT: Second question - If I were to use this extraction method successfully how would it compare to just taking the pills as prescribed both in terms of relative high and pain relief? Would I have to dissolve a lot more pills than I normally take (2/4 hours or 8/day) due to the extraction loss? Also would the high/pain relief last as long, longer, or shorter? I know that the narcotic is a short term opiate and has a very short activity life, but I wonder if that would change if the acetaminophen is removed from the equation.
Sorry for asking so many questions, but this truly intrigues me.