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Originally Posted by Draven Allot of people consider revolution and if you watch the news you know that the economy is about to go down and crash. The government is ready for martial law and all this should have been and can be averted. So are we to wait until martial law is declared and we are become the slaves? Or do we strike the first blow? If we are to strike the first blow then how? |
You didn't mention which country you're talking about. I'll assume it's the US.
What makes you think the government is ready to implement martial law? This is done when a situation is too chaotic to be handled by conventional agencies and methods. (Such as the hurricane Katrina aftermath.)
"Striking the first blow" seems pointless, indeed suicidal. At present there is nothing to rebel against, and any act of violence would be swiftly put down.
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Originally Posted by CyberWar The most likely scenario in case of a popular revolt will be an utter defeat. Masses, unlike the small clique of corporate leaders and their lackeys in power, can never achieve the same level of unity in views, goals and means to achieve them. |
True. In any case, unity means nothing against superior firepower, if it comes to that. But it wouldn't have to. If the government felt threatened they could cut off gas, power and water to major cities. Millions of people cold, hungry and in the dark. They would capitulate rapidly.
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Originally Posted by Draven There is a saying in fencing that has been adapted by political anaylists "That those outside your circle can not be attacked." Meaning that those of us who can operate without those functions being suppied to us, are outside the systems that regulate and control those elements. Those who can maintain such things without outside aid, can inturn control their environments by controlling themselves... |
The only way to be independent of the "system" you refer to is to go bush, and live it rough. As such you would be no threat to anyone, and the government wouldn't care.
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Originally Posted by Skelton the revolution would have to wait for a major collapse (if oil went to 300$ a barrel overnight) causeing mass panic or if the U.S. fell apart, which inevitably it will. |
The US has a sored reserve of
700 million barrels of oil, which could be released to reduce the effect of an oil-price crisis. Bear in mind that the government also requires the country to have a functioning economy.
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Originally Posted by Trench Coat Crow your right it won't collapse with us talking about it. its going to collapse all by itself. dont worry. it'll happen in a few years or so. once that happens it gonna be funny. people will start killing other people and doing terrible shit. i personally will just stay home. |
Yes... until you run out of food, or your utilities get cut off. Or someone breaks down your door. Why don't you hide under your bedcovers for good measure? Oh, that's right - you can't reply. You were banned for being an idiot.
As I said, currently there is nothing to rebel against, nor any effective way of "fighting back", as
Grim pointed out. If martial law
were declared it would be force against force, and the army has all the advantages.
BTW,
Draven: I'll tell you the same thing I tell others. Spelling, grammar, punctuation. You aren't the worst offender, but you claim to be 27. I expect better.