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Old 07-22-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by General Grim View Post
I can comment no further on the effectiveness of glitter as I still believe that the effect that glitter has on night vision devices is limited at best. The only way to settle this is to bring out additional references and/or test results.

YouTube - ATN night vision goggles

I can't actually find any information on NVGs that relate to glitter having any effect on the vision, but that video shows street lamps which hardly effect vision at all. This is another reason why I doubt the much smaller glitter pieces would have a substantial effect.

Till we find a member with a set of NVGs with an IR illuminator we can't do much.
Sure we can...
YouTube - MH-60L DAP in Iraq at night

This video shows how sparks appear through NVGs and the glitter looks very similar when reflection abiant light (especial when the IR is switched on). Now the glitter, would have to spread over a large area (packed into small blasts) to spread the glitter over said area, probably connected through a daisy chain of small charges. But, thats a limitation of that technology as well.

All technology has a limitation and technology to counter a specific technological limitation is of course limited by that as well. I never said it was fool proof, merely that it was a limitation.

YouTube - Basic Fire Training-Thermal Images
here is a video of some firemen training done through a thermal imaging camera, notice that the insolated suits conceal their heat and reflect the air temperature around them. This is similar to what I was saying involving the space blankets.

To Steven,

I could argue the issues with you but there is no point, we both have our own beliefs. We don't agree but thats cool. A rebellion is limited by what it can fabricate and steal from the enemy. The police having anyone out gunned is a joke, you can make a improvised AK for less then $100 with stuff from Lowes. A few years ago a marine PFC killed two police officers in Cali, they had him out gunned but not out trained. While I may agree with some of the issues you mention, I have a completely different prospective based on personal experience. The desertion rates are the highest since the 1980s and is reported at an 80% increase, so imagine the desertion rate during a civil war or civil rebellion.

Personally, I agree with much of your assessments, but I'd like to point out the Israel was considered unbeatable in the middle east, yet lost they took heavy losses against Hezbullah and to many nations and individuals lost that fight.

Here is a few links for you...

US Army desertion rates rise 80 percent since 2003 Iraq invasion; highest rate since 1980 - International Herald Tribune

Gang Activity in the U.S. Military

YouTube - AK-47 Armed Bank Robbers get Caught
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