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Originally Posted by french tickler

I like to consider myself independent/libertarian. The things being stated here about liberals and conservatives are very true. I would venture to say that they are both equally ignorant. There are certain parts of the constitution they like, and there are parts that they consider completely irrelevant just because it is not in sync with what they want.

Not true. As many people do, you're confusing "Liberal" and "Conservative" with "Democrat" and "Republican".

A Conservative, by definition, is loyal exclusively to the Constitution - and therefore can't (by very definition) oppose it. If one opposes the constitution in whole or in part, he is by definition not a conservative.

On the other hand, a "republican" can have any view he should choose. The title of republican is a matter of which box you check - the title of conservative is based on a way of life and thought.

Originally Posted by french tickler

I would be considered conservative because of my opinions on guns, that's about it though.

If the only issue you agree with conservatives is gun laws - then you're not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

From what you've said there/\, you would be a "Pro-gun Independant", but from what you say three paragraphs down, you're a conservative.

Originally Posted by french tickler

I wouldn't be described as liberal in most aspects, but liberal and conservative are things that only others would describe me as. I like to compare Libs and Cons to Nazis and Soviets, they both tend to support tyranny and offer freedom only to those who agree with them.

Again, not even close to being true. You're still thinking in the shallow terms of "Republican" and "Democrat". If you think that conservatives try to deny freedom to people who oppose them, then your understanding of what a conservatives are is vastly lacking.

Originally Posted by french tickler

I can't really word out my thoughts, but seriously, Libs and Cons are equally horrible.

Really? What have Conservatives done to make them "horrible"?

Originally Posted by french tickler

That is why I identify myself as libertarian/independent. I like the idea of true and absolute freedom, I feel that the government should not interfere with our lives so much and that people have personal liberties that should be guaranteed whether I agree with them or not.

So, you agree with the (paraphrased) credo of conservatism. Pick up a copy of "Liberty and Tyrrany: a Conservative Manifesto" by Mark Levin - you'll find you're more conservative than you think.

Originally Posted by french tickler

I don't think America would be better off as entirely liberal, or conservative. America will be better off when the two power-hungry tyrant parties fade away (not that it will ever happen), and a new party that supports true liberty takes its place.

Again, you're under the misguided assumption that republicans are always conservative and democrats are always liberal; and that the terms can be interchanged.

The political parties themselves (republican and democrat) are meaningless. Those who consider themselves conservatives tend to condemn both parties, as neither serves the best interest of the nation.

Originally Posted by french tickler

That's all just fantasy though. It won't happen and America is all too happy being the hypocritical, openly liberal, and privately conservative political cesspool that it is.

The problem with America is that we've been conditioned to believe that it's not okay to be a conservative - so we pretend we're not. On the other hand, when the ballot is secret and we can say what we believe with annonymity, we're far more conservative than we are when we're in the open.

Political correctness is the problem - and political correctness is an entirely liberal construct.

Originally Posted by french tickler

Also, I apologize for sounding like a bigot. To make my long post short, I hate dems (libs)and reps (cons), they are both hypocrites.

Here's a synopsis of your problem understanding American politics.
Youv'e decided that:
Liberal = Democrat
Conservative = Republican
Democrat and Republican are boxes you check on a ballot; Conservative and Liberal are belief systems.

You'll have trouble finding conservatives in either party.