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Originally Posted by bostonboy  Shetlan, if the thead is pointless I dont understand the nead you and Murder feal to post negative comments on it. |
I posted nothing I would deem "negative" or purposefully malicious, I simply refuted the existing negative claims about the other thread.
The thread isn't pointless, but it doesn't offer anything "superior" to the existing thread - which several posters have claimed it does. More to the point, there's no reason to have two threads on the same subject when the methods are so similar that they produce virtually identical results.
IE: If one person told you to light a cigarette with a match and another told you to use a Bic lighter - would you consider the answers truly "different"; or would you look at the identical result and file them together?
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Originally Posted by bostonboy Why is the thread such a threat to you and the ego of Murder? |
It's not. The ego is one's own evaluation of himselfs, nothing that happens here (on any forum) changes my ego - nor should it change anyone else's.
That being the case, I don't see the thread as threatening - only misleeding. The thread itself and several of the posters have made multiple claims that the thread produces a superior product in comparison to the "freebase" thread - when in fact it does not.
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Originally Posted by bostonboy I dont agree on a couple of your points also. I for one did not leave your thread because I am ¨to lazy to search¨ or because the thread i to long. |
I meant that as a rule, not as an absolute. Most of the complaints I saw where based entirely on the other thread being too long - others ventured into the territory of the "bitching and moaning" section.
Nevertheless, if that doesn't reflect your position then it wasn't directed at you to begin with.
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Originally Posted by bostonboy The [freebase] thread was and is helpfull from a given point of view as you clearly stated, however if my interest takes me more to this thread whats the problem? |
There's no "problem", but this thread offers nothing that the previous hasn't explored.
Try to see this from my perspective:
People are asking questions that have already been answered - I suggest a source where they can find the information they're looking for - they refuse to look for the information and instead start an entire new thread.
My position is neither one of insult nor of offense, but rather it's one of confusion. Why would you re-invent the wheel when you already have one?
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Originally Posted by bostonboy I dont like to read about how one commenter is to lazy, cant spell, did not read the thread there for should have his skin peald off etc. I am looking for help on a hoby, thats it, dont want anyone to get personal with me that does not know me. Just help. |
1: Let's be serious boston, some people are just 'too lazy' to look anything up - these people get annoying fairly quickly.
2: If someone's spelling is so poor that it makes his post un-readable, then yes, it's fair to ridicule them. Intentionally bad spelling (ie: uno i nede 2 no bout wtrmrks) is just annoying.
3: I don't recall the skin thing, but let me put this in perspective for you. If a child sat next to you and repeated "Why?" over and over wouldn't it annoy you?
4: Some years ago, I took up magic as a hobby. The first thing I did was read books on the subject - rather than e-mailing the people who wrote the books for advice. They already made the information available - askign them for clarification is one thing, asking them to repeat everything they wrote is quite another.
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Originally Posted by bostonboy Also your point about the paper not having been addressed here is not correct perhaps you should have read the whole thread as your so fond of pointing out. Here is Docs stated comment, just one of them, ¨I've been having my fun with niro-cellulose (flash paper) and the funny thing is that two sheets laminated has the right feel weight, and it's very durable, the fibre is close in look to currency paper and I believe it is starchless as well. While not everyone would want to go this route (Never use the stuff with a laser printer (obviously) however, plain cellulose paper should also work very well for anyone interested... |
Perhaps you should do a bit more research before you correct me.
Flash paper, heavily used in magic, feels nothing like a dollar bill - it feels much less like one if laminated. Secondly, flash paper is extremely fragile, that's largely the point of it's use - so it can burn immediately and completely and leave no ash.
He also mentioned "plain cellulose paper", which is absolutely any type of paper containing cellulose. This is an entire classification of papers types which covers everything from newsprint to the 20lb cotton rag paper suggested in the "freebase thread" - neither of which would allow the poster to produce a watermarked, security stripped, final product. A suitable paper would need to be 80-100% cotton and 10-12lb - so, as I said - "which neither thread has given a source for."