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Old 10-29-2008, 03:14 AM
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hypothetically, is it possible for an individual to bypass one of these bad boys (without tampering/breaking them)? like is there a chemical way to overcome this? (please don't say by not drinking...)

i heard of the penny trick, but i do not believe it works.

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Old 10-29-2008, 03:21 AM
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are u drunk or just buzzed if buzzed kill the cop and run other wise forget it there is basically no way around the Breathalyzer
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:49 AM
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I gotta Say Is there any way around the Breathlyzer cuz I was Just wonderin and so far i think the best way Is to say ur fucked cuz u cant beat it to my knowledge.
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My guess would be to just refuse,if you do you could loose your license but whats better that or jail?
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:06 AM
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1. Smash the breathalizer up.

2. The police put you in a holding cell.

3. When they get another machine you've sobered up.

Not really a way of beating the machine but a tactic that might work.
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A while back people got away with it that said they've just used a breath freshner,the type that come in small bottles,they contain alcohol and this may give you time untill the blood test at the police station.
The only problem is that you must have one on you and have just used it.
The best thing is not to drink and drive,it's not worth the risk and if you do run someone over,it'll be your fault,even if it was not.You should not have been driving.
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Just don't drink and drive. It needlessly endangers you and others around you. You can buy personal breathalyzer things to check what your level is.
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i have yet to beat my home breathalyzer,so i'd have to say bribe the cop and pray
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My guess would be to just refuse,if you do you could loose your license but whats better that or jail?
Don't know about the US, but is Aust, refusing to take a breath test is regarded as having tested over the limit, and you're charged as a worst-category drink driver.

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The alcohol in your blood enters the air in your lungs and is expelled when you blow. It doesn't matter if your mouth is completely clean, your BAC is still detectable in your expelled air.

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1. Smash the breathalizer up.

2. The police put you in a holding cell.

3. When they get another machine you've sobered up.

Not really a way of beating the machine but a tactic that might work.
1. This will result in your arrest for destruction of property and probably assault on the cop holding the breathalyzer. Both lock-up offenses.

2. They will have plenty of machines, possibly a spare in the car. At most it will buy you the time it takes to get back to the station. In Aust they can test you after an arrest, then calculate your BAC at the time you were driving, and you will be charged at that level.

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A while back people got away with it that said they've just used a breath freshner,the type that come in small bottles,they contain alcohol and this may give you time untill the blood test at the police station.
See above. (US procedure may be different I acknowledge.)

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Just don't drink and drive. It needlessly endangers you and others around you. You can buy personal breathalyzer things to check what your level is."
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Don't know about the US, but is Aust, refusing to take a breath test is regarded as having tested over the limit, and you're charged as a worst-category drink driver.
It varies from state to state but refusing a test in the U.S. doesn't count as a positive test. In fact if you know your going to fail the test, it's the best thing to do.

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But don't they charge you for refusing the test? If people could refuse with no consequence then no drunk would take the test.
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But don't they charge you for refusing the test? If people could refuse with no consequence then no drunk would take the test.

there are definitely consequences. In California I believe you lose your license for a year. But losing your license for a year is much better than having a dui on your record.

This comes into play more with those of us who are under 21. In the states if your under 21 driving with anything over .01 is considered a dui. Thus you know for sure when your going to fail the test and consequently when you should refuse it
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well i just got out of drivers ed in indiana and when u get ur license u basically sign a contract saying you will take the test if you are pulled over. you can refuse to take the test, but they'll suspend ur license for a few years. not worth it.
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You refuse a breath test and the cops still have options. They can still make you do a sobriety test and if you refuse or fail you get arrested anyway.
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The alcohol in your blood enters the air in your lungs and is expelled when you blow. It doesn't matter if your mouth is completely clean, your BAC is still detectable in your expelled air.
It was a joke from the movie "Thank You For Smoking", not to be taken literally.
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Fair enough. I wasn't sure if it was serious or not.
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You refuse a breath test and the cops still have options. They can still make you do a sobriety test and if you refuse or fail you get arrested anyway.
Yeah but the charges are different. Yeah they both get your license suspended for six months but you can have 10 failed to submitt to sobriety test charges and they will always be misdameanors but if you get 3 dui's it becomes a felony charge. I'd rather have failure to submitt to a sobriety test then a DUI because then when applying for a job, if the boss happens to bring it up, you can come up with something like "he started doing this pen test to me and he said I failed that test(which this test is TOTAL BULLSHIT) and after that I realized that even though I'm not drunk, they are going to do what they can to arrest me so I told them no more tests".

Something like that.
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isnt there some way to not actually breath into it, but look like you are?
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isnt there some way to not actually breath into it, but look like you are?
I wouldn't think so. If a breathalyzer doesn't receive a valid sample (id est, not enough air being pushed through the machine), it would reject the sample and advise the police officer of that.
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I wouldn't think so. If a breathalyzer doesn't receive a valid sample (id est, not enough air being pushed through the machine), it would reject the sample and advise the police officer of that.
You filthy fucking lier. Provide a reference.

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I wouldn't think so. If a breathalyzer doesn't receive a valid sample (id est, not enough air being pushed through the machine), it would reject the sample and advise the police officer of that.
ya i got breathalyed at school and the cop said that ill have to redo the test till i blow enough air to register, haha i blew zeros and told the cops to fuck off
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ya i got breathalyed at school and the cop said that ill have to redo the test till i blow enough air to register, haha i blew zeros and told the cops to fuck off
Umm telling a cop to "fuck off" would be an obstruction of justice therefore resulting in prosecution.

Secondly, if you smashed the breathalyzer wouldn't the be some form of offense? In Canada you can refuse to take the breathalyzer, but you will not be allowed to continue driving until you allow for other methods of testing to be done.
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Umm telling a cop to "fuck off" would be an obstruction of justice therefore resulting in prosecution.

Secondly, if you smashed the breathalyzer wouldn't the be some form of offense? In Canada you can refuse to take the breathalyzer, but you will not be allowed to continue driving until you allow for other methods of testing to be done.
ok so i didnt say fuck off word for word but made him apologize for harrassing me and told him how i felt in a less then friendly matter.

how is that obstruction of justice? just curious i looked on a law school website under obstruction of justice and nothing said anything about verbal anything directed towards an officer.
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I saw that episode too - but do you really think they would show the general public a way to beat the breathalyzer if they found one? I think not.
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i read on wikipedia and it says it detects for alc. by electrolysis of ethanol to acetic acid.... so mabey you could take a quick mouthwash with vinegar and then take the test. The amount of acetic acid would be enough that the amount of ethanol in your body to produce that amount of acetic acid would be like 20% of your body weight ( which easily wouldve been enough kill you many times over) and the cop might come to the conclusion that the breath tester is broken. Thus, if you're not too buzzed you just have to do the walk the line tests, etc
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This comes into play more with those of us who are under 21. In the states if your under 21 driving with anything over .01 is considered a dui. Thus you know for sure when your going to fail the test and consequently when you should refuse it
In Kansas and possibly some others, drinking age is 18, now (as of 6'07).
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Umm telling a cop to "fuck off" would be an obstruction of justice therefore resulting in prosecution.
Not in the US. Unless you actually threaten the cop , we have a freedom of speech, here. Besides, cops hear it all, most just grin or laugh. Still, with most cop's attitudes, it isn't prudent to use it in so many words, especially if you know you are DUI...

We had a "Sobriety Checkpoint" here that supposedly pulled over everyone within a certain distance of downtown after 2 AM. A friend just drove through one, which was his right, they really couldn't pursue, but they did pull him over for "speeding".
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i read on wikipedia and it says it detects for alc. by electrolysis of ethanol to acetic acid.... so mabey you could take a quick mouthwash with vinegar and then take the test. The amount of acetic acid would be enough that the amount of ethanol in your body to produce that amount of acetic acid would be like 20% of your body weight ( which easily wouldve been enough kill you many times over) and the cop might come to the conclusion that the breath tester is broken. Thus, if you're not too buzzed you just have to do the walk the line tests, etc
There's a good option!

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I just got a flash: borrow a nebulizer (right word?--inhaler?) from an asthmatic friend, keep it with you. When pulled-over, suck on it a few times, them hold it up and say you're having an asthma attack...they will either not attempt a B/A or the spray will give falsies....

Steve; if the alcohol-tainted air is being "blown out" over the charcoal; why wouldn't it then absorb some? This makes no sense...If you would care to explain why in "theory" this wouldn't work?

Of course, a lot is theory. What a cop Can vs, what many Will do is far different.....

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