Paranoid

Pspeters · #1 (**permalink**) 09-20-2008, 12:33 AM

So yesterday i was talking to my friend on myspace and i sent him a message with the words sulfuric acid,nitric acid,and hexamine. Doesnt the gov. check for things like that in messages? it didnt even cross my mind. am i screwed?

S7@1T3D · #2 (**permalink**) 09-20-2008, 02:21 AM

Yes you are. Along the lines of what HC says you betta run to cuba!

Pspeters · #3 (**permalink**) 09-20-2008, 10:39 PM

Lets be serious now. Am i screwed ? haha. im guessing no because we talk about all that here

bastian.1343 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-20-2008, 11:53 PM

If you want the government to deport you I'd start writing a lot of mails containing: jihad, infidels, washington, etc. combined in a fashion to make it look anti-patriotic.

Timm · #5 (**permalink**) 09-21-2008, 10:42 AM

Fucked! Proper fucked. Those aren't the Automatic Transmission Fluid warriors that'll be simultaneously rappelling into your windows and ramming in the entry points of your home...

You're fine i'm sure. Somehow i feel more scrutinized on say myspace than on a less popular site like this one, but how the hell does that make sense? If they got you're number, they're gonna probably follow you everywhere in the cyberverse. I agree with Bastian 1343, avoid all online rants about killing the pig infidels ect. ... hardcore anarchy sites, hate group sites come to mind.. but why one and not another?

Maybe "they" have huge servers that scan for a hotlist of about 5000 words of interest and mind-bogglingly complex software that organizes the insane amount of information, and downloads it into every citizens (resident better word?) threat level file? Ludicrous or pretty close to reality? Hard to say.

The short answer is this: They pretty much let you do whatever you want until you hurt people, destroy some shit that they want, cost them money, make them look bad, or start makin money without cuttin them in. This applies to cops as well.

bastian.1343 · #6 (**permalink**) 09-21-2008, 12:38 PM

It's a known fact, admitted to by facebook themselves, that every single piece of information you post onto your facebook is sold to corporations, so why wouldn't they sell it to the government?

headcase · #7 (**permalink**) 09-21-2008, 06:44 PM

Because they don't want it?

bastian.1343 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-21-2008, 07:42 PM

You're right I should have been clearer about that this was a hypothesis. And yes, the government has plenty of ways to monitor if they really felt the need to.

Timm · #9 (**permalink**) 09-22-2008, 11:15 AM

I think they really feel the need to. There's probably unimaginable amounts of money poured into as many programs, investigations, threat level calculations and profiling efforts.. I don't really like to think about it. It's another tiny reason i live on an island in the Gulf of Alaska.. It seems so isolated from those realities.

Ha ha Its on the wiki! Just checked it out of curiosity, there's a couple articles. Wanna see where I hide out at? Kodiak, Alaska. Maybe i can edit a link to it. I will say this, its pretty easy to get to the middle of nowhere here, takes about 15 minutes. Drive twice that (truck or skiff) and you're gettin into do whatever the fuck you want territory. Convenient! Hard to get busted with no one around for miles. I like that, and by now I need it.

To tie in, my opinion is that you aren't in trouble until you get yourself into it, but if you do, they will rhino-romp the living shit out of you, it'll suck, and you'll be sad. What you can get away with depends on where you live.. But more so how smart you are and how dedicated you are to keeping a low profile.

Mauler3050 · #10 (**permalink**) 09-23-2008, 05:30 AM

It just seems like talking about home made explosives and things of that such, although anarchy related, are just not big enough to really turn heads. I mean the Gov has the tech to probably hack into just about anything that they would like to. Keeping in mind how many sites and people out there that are talking about such things I'm sure they will be able to tell if you really have malicious intent. If you do have malicious intent, then yeah i might want to be scared. But with everything we currently have going on in the world, I think talking about minor explosives made by a private party are just a pimple on an elephants ass. But don't take that to be truth because you never know.... >.> <.<

Blue Moon · #11 (**permalink**) 10-06-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Timm

Ha ha Its on the wiki! Just checked it out of curiosity, there's a couple articles. Wanna see where I hide out at? Kodiak, Alaska. Maybe i can edit a link to it. I will say this, its pretty easy to get to the middle of nowhere here, takes about 15 minutes. Drive twice that (truck or skiff) and you're gettin into do whatever the fuck you want territory. Convenient! Hard to get busted with no one around for miles. I like that, and by now I need it.

Lol, thats not a bad place to hide. I grew up in a smaller place though. Grenola, Kansas. It's like the smallest town in Kansas. There was only one police officer, and he was my uncle. I got away with so much shit

I was shocked as hell that it was on Wiki. There was a total of like 6 streets, and 3 churches.

Timm · #12 (**permalink**) 10-09-2008, 11:36 PM

Yeah.. Love it, hate it.. You can run but can't escape, ect.. The isolation and its "islandness" is why I love it and (but?) cannot seem to leave it. The myriad bays and coves, mountains, giant black oceanside cliffs.. you can go out like 30 mins away and be the only fuckers around for miles of rugged-ass terrain.. like you can rock a river valley or get a hilariously sweet echo out of a whole bay, flanked by mountains.. and they don't hear me in town!!

It's... a pretty weird place i think. Has a 200 year old bar, the B-n-B.. an even older russian built trading post, now a museum.. Largest commercial fishing fleet in the states, supposedly.. its a different joint, for sure.

Heatspeaker · #13 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 06:07 AM

Does the somebody know you sent that message?
Short answer: Yes.

Google "Echelon"

Anyway, it's almost guaranteed that some government computer somewhere knows that you sent a message containing those words at such and such time of day from such and such IP address.

Do they know who exactly you are?
Unlikely, unless you do that sort of thing all the time I doubt anyone has been concerned enough to take a personal or professional interest in you in that regard. Though with their (assumed) resources, it probably wouldn't be that hard for them to find out.

Are you in trouble?
Doubtful. Though, personal anecdote, back in my days when I frequented many sites like bombshock, sites regarding hacking, anarchy, etc. etc. my mother did receive an email to her ISP assigned address, which she never used, that claimed to be from the FBI, and was regarding certain URLs accessed from our IP address. She called the telephone number included, and it was answered in an official fashion by someone claiming to be from the FBI.

She hung up the phone and chewed me out.

My point is, the average person has very little to worry about. The fact of the matter is that they usually know whether or not you are in fact an average person, and average people are no threat.