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Slaited, I just clicked on randoms sig aswell and discovered this.
How I laughed! 
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Please remove the warning you gave me.Information given was not a how to make,but the chemicals used in some road flares.Safty information needed was also added,so why have i received a warning and for what?
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11-11-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by john lee  Ramdom
Please remove the warning you gave me.Information given was not a how to make,but the chemicals used in some road flares.Safty information needed was also added,so why have i received a warning and for what?
John. | You received a warning not because you posted unsafe information, but because you failed to provide sources for the information that you did post.
Safety, while a significant consideration, is a different issue. I did not believe that what you posted was absolutely dangerous, but providing sources of information can allow those members who are more experienced in such areas to confirm or deny the safety of any information - and that applies for everything.
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11-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Random You received a warning not because you posted unsafe information, but because you failed to provide sources for the information that you did post.
Safety, while a significant consideration, is a different issue. I did not believe that what you posted was absolutely dangerous, but providing sources of information can allow those members who are more experienced in such areas to confirm or deny the safety of any information - and that applies for everything. | I can understand giving proof that showing how to make items are safe,or how dangerous they are to make,but there was no how to make anything in my post.Just a list of chemicals that are used in road flares.
I think the warning you gave me was over the top,but you're the mod and there nothing i can do about that.
The link has also been added,i spent 2hrs finding it,just for you.
I WOULD NOT SHOW ANY INFORMATION ON MAKING ANYTHING UNLESS I'VE TESTED IT MYSELF AND CHECKED THE SAFTY IN MAKING IT.
John.
NOTE-Adsolutely dangerous? I do not like the sound of that,danger is danger no matter how small!
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11-12-2008, 09:11 PM
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Still john, it makes sense. I remember when i came under a different nam, i had tested a post by another (forget who it was) for making an explosive, and i did not know that the compound i was making would release a toxic gas that burned my hand.
You just need to take this warning and not make the mistake again the warning will expire in about a week or two nothing too bad.
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11-12-2008, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fayle Still john, it makes sense. I remember when i came under a different nam, i had tested a post by another (forget who it was) for making an explosive, and i did not know that the compound i was making would release a toxic gas that burned my hand.
You just need to take this warning and not make the mistake again the warning will expire in about a week or two nothing too bad. | Hello.Have you seen the post? If i've done wrong i would be ok with the warning,it was only for 10 days,but there's no mention of mixing any chemicals or how to mix them,there's just a list of chemicals and the amount used.
This was to show what chemicals are used in a road flare and not how to make/build one.
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11-13-2008, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by john lee Hello.Have you seen the post? If i've done wrong i would be ok with the warning,it was only for 10 days,but there's no mention of mixing any chemicals or how to mix them,there's just a list of chemicals and the amount used.
This was to show what chemicals are used in a road flare and not how to make/build one.
John. | And, as I said previously, the issue of safety (while important) is not the reason you received the warning. You received the warning for making claims of fact without supporting those claims with evidence or third-party sources.
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Originally Posted by Random And, as I said previously, the issue of safety (while important) is not the reason you received the warning. You received the warning for making claims of fact without supporting those claims with evidence or third-party sources. | Well the evidence is now there,this includes the sources.
Hello Ramdom.It looks like i'll just have to live with the warning,but remember that i also experiment will chemicals and there will only be my word if i list any outcomes of these experiments/tests.Safty always comes first and will be included.
I hope my word it worth something!
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11-14-2008, 04:43 AM
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Well. I never really had anything to bitch about untill I read johns complaints....How com I never got any warnings? You always gave me infractions. A warning would have been fine. Well, thats all.
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11-15-2008, 01:16 PM
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Dude, enough bitching lol I did the same thing and it get's you no where. I got infracted for the same thing I got a warning for yet I got infracted the day before I got the warning. Headcase infracted me for language and the next day I got a warning from Random for the same thing. LOL it's not like anyone is going to care, look at Vallen with his four or five infraction's. LMFAO gotta have a respected trouble maker in the forum 
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11-15-2008, 03:33 PM
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11-15-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Macaveli Dude, enough bitching lol I did the same thing and it get's you no where. I got infracted for the same thing I got a warning for yet I got infracted the day before I got the warning. Headcase infracted me for language and the next day I got a warning from Random for the same thing. LOL it's not like anyone is going to care, look at Vallen with his four or five infraction's. LMFAO gotta have a respected trouble maker in the forum | Oh, I've got nearly double what Vallen has. Hell, I've been banned more than 5 times. |
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I have 8 now i just didn't feel like updating my sig |
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You have 5. 5 is a different number to 8. See how that works?
Five is still too many though. You know what that means about your next one... |
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Originally Posted by headcase You have 5. 5 is a different number to 8. See how that works?
Five is still too many though. You know what that means about your next one... | 5 active or 5 all time? |
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5 in total. 4 infractions and 1 warning. They're all expired. |
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Originally Posted by headcase 5 in total. 4 infractions and 1 warning. They're all expired. | Wow, he got on AOL IM last night and basically bashed you and Random for giving him 8 infractions. He explicitly said 8.
You know, I was all inclined to hear him out on why he feels the infractions we're wrong/unwarranted but lying for whatever reason? I'm suprised you're giving him another chance. |
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Originally Posted by headcase 5 in total. 4 infractions and 1 warning. They're all expired. | lmao headcase you don't even understand the infraction system.
Theres another page of them. durrrrrrrrrrrr |
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Originally Posted by Vallen lmao headcase you don't even understand the infraction system.
Theres another page of them. durrrrrrrrrrrr | Lol, here comes 6 or 9! |
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He was right, I was wrong. Nothing wrong with that. Although he did get his 9th from Random today. Still, I can't ban him in good conscience now. 10 it is then... |
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OK so now i've got a warning and infraction for the same thing.
Encouraging account violations!
I was showing them,not encouraging them.
Random can kiss my arse.
John.
Yeah,oh,lets not encourage people to be making or using anonymous second accounts,OK?If we're to gain any sort of decancy amongst the bombshock community,people need to be fully accountable for what thay say-at least to their forum handle(not necessarily their real name).
Further,with the politics,complaints and bitching that goes on amongst the community,anonymous accounts help nobody and simply make our job harder.
You could always get a new job,or just GO AWAY.
John.
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This strikes me as funny, because this thread was made to complain about a super moderator and people can not post what they want or else they will get infracted. That's bullshit to me. No offense but sometimes you guys can be completely unreasonable, and other times i completely understand why you do what you do. Its a lose win situation.
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Originally Posted by Fayle This strikes me as funny, because this thread was made to complain about a super moderator and people can not post what they want or else they will get infracted. | I have never issued an infraction for what is said in this thread. Quote:
Originally Posted by Fayle That's bullshit to me. No offense but sometimes you guys can be completely unreasonable, and other times i completely understand why you do what you do. Its a lose win situation. | If any member is upset with a moderator's decision, they can refer the matter to another moderator or to an administrator. If the decision in question is found to be unreasonable, it will likely be reversed - but this will only happen if members voice their concerns appropriately, rather than posting complaints in a generic forum thread.
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Originally Posted by Random If any member is upset with a moderator's decision, they can refer the matter to another moderator or to an administrator. If the decision in question is found to be unreasonable, it will likely be reversed - but this will only happen if members voice their concerns appropriately, rather than posting complaints in a generic forum thread. |
I do agree with you there Random, people need to learn how to use the report post button at the "top right hand corner of each post"
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Originally Posted by Random I have never issued an infraction for what is said in this thread.
If any member is upset with a moderator's decision, they can refer the matter to another moderator or to an administrator. If the decision in question is found to be unreasonable, it will likely be reversed - but this will only happen if members voice their concerns appropriately, rather than posting complaints in a generic forum thread. | I was trying to help,i've shown and named fake id's that are/were being used on bombshock.
The link was added,or i would have received a warning for not showing the "proof".
As for making your job harder,that's just rubbish,if anything i've made it easyer.
You've seen the link that was added with the fake id's and pass words,so you can see the people that are using saids id's,how is this making your job harder?
I have no idea why you have given me an infraction and a warning for helping bombshock.
For some unknown reason you do not like me,is it my spelling? Is it my name? Is it because i'm English? I would like to know,i my be able to resolve whatever problem you have.
BLW.That was not the only link with fake id's,you can find the rest!
John. Yes that's my REAL name.
PS Last time i had a problem with you i was told in your e-mail to come here,well i'm here again and i think you know why,even if you have removed the posts,people have still seen them.
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Originally Posted by Random If any member is upset with a moderator's decision, they can refer the matter to another moderator or to an administrator. If the decision in question is found to be unreasonable, it will likely be reversed - but this will only happen if members voice their concerns appropriately, rather than posting complaints in a generic forum thread. | Can you provide an example of when a situation has involved another administrator/moderator which led to the original decision being reversed? |
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can threads be unlocked if the decision is reversed? |
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Fuck power tripping assholes
what a fucking asshole
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Originally Posted by Beyond Can you provide an example of when a situation has involved another administrator/moderator which led to the original decision being reversed? | Yes.
Some time ago, I issued an infraction (or a warning, I can't remember...probably the former) to a member for something. This was brought to the attention of another moderator, who raised the matter in the moderator-only forums. We looked at it, it was determined that the infraction was not deserved (what I thought I had read was different to what was actually there), and it was reversed.
I don't remember the name of the member or the reason for the infraction, and I would have to trawl through several threads to find the exact instance. What I remember is that the thread was in LOWAP or P&M, and the post had something to do with Hitler and the Roman Empire... Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngle can threads be unlocked if the decision is reversed? | Yes, if it is decided that locking the thread wasn't the right thing to do.
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So why do members get an infration and a warning at the same time and for the same post,even if the reason for the warning and infraction is wrong?
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