Homemade drugs

[Random]

Hmm...I always thought it was just liquid nitrogen in those small tubes that got released and forced out the cream or whatever else was in the can...

[StraightEdge]

Ok, I pretty much consider myself an expert in easy-to-find drugs. DXM is probably my favorite. It's easy to find and extract. They used to sell jumbo bottles (like 300mg of DXM per bottle) but most places don't sell those anymore without guafinesin(sp?). But the guafinesin is easy to extract out using the agent lemon method. You can find instructions at erowid. Basically all you need is lemon juice, ammonia (pure - not scented), naptha lighter fluid, and a few ziplock bags. Very easy to do! The product is kind of a harsh lemony liquid. It's definately more cost efficient to buy the jumbo bottle and extract it rather than buying the smaller bottle with just DXM.

Ether is also a fun one. Just buy starter fluid and mix with water. The nonpolar ether layer separates and appears on top. Separate the layers and you have pure, clear ether to huff. I'm not really a fan of huffing but other than nitrous, ether is probably the safest.

Morning glory seeds aren't bad if you can extract the LSA. Definately do not chew the seeds and swallow. The amount of seeds needed to get high will cause you to get sick. Most people claim that stores intentionally spray the seeds to cause nausia if taken eaten. I'm pretty sure this is a lie. The seends themselves do not take kindly to being swallowed.

Nutmeg is okay. However do not smoke it (as Mushrooms mentioned). It's alot better to just put it in water and chug. It's fucking nasty but it'l give you a slight buzz. You can also try grinding it up and putting it in alcohol. The slightly less polar myristicine (I think thats the right chemical) will dissolve in the ethanol and you can drink the alcohol after the nutmeg powder is separated.

Don't try banana peels or smoking peanut skins no matter what you hear!

Dramamine and Benedryl contain a chemical that can fuck you up. The Benedryl has diphenhydramine - I can't remember the Dramamine chemical off the top of my head. Both drugs are very similar with the exception of diphendydramine being more potent than the Dramamine chemical. You can hallucinate off this shit. However, it's not your usual LSD or mushrooms trip. It's weird... I can't really explain. Alot of people describe experiences where they think they are talking to a person and then the person just vanishes. It's a much more real kind of hallucination. I have had this experience with it, too. It's not psychedelic at all! also, this shit is very bad for your liver. It also has a nasty hangover that puts you out of commission the following day. Not painful, just groggy. They also both depress your muscles. While on this shit your whole body will feel very heavy and it will take great strengh just to move. Take with caution.

Mescaline.... not really legal. In fact, not legal at all. However, San Pedro, which contains mescaline, can be ordered online. I realize that this has been mentioned but I am going to mention it again for the sake of completeness. Personally, I have never gotten much out of mescaline via San Pedro. The cactus not only made me bleed when attempting to cut it up, it also made me feel sick. I got a little buzz off it, but nothing significant. Btw, if you ever get the cactus make sure you ingest the green part just under the skin (do not ingest the skin). The white shit underneath contains much smaller quantities of mescaline and it isn't kind to your stomach. There's another plant that has mescaline in it that is legal but I cannot think of it right now. A little help, people?

Salvia, for the millionth time, is pretty good. You need to order it online though. You will not find it in any nearby greenhouse. People compare it to a marijuana high. It is alot different! It's a much more confusing experience. I like it, but some people don't. Also, I find it to be a harsher smoke. Try to use a powerful lighter when smoking it. It's best effects come if you get the salvia extremely hot.

Amanita Muscaria is a legal mushroom that will fuck you up. It's not the same experience as tripping off magic mushrooms (aka mushrooms that contain psilocybin,ibotenic acid, and other compounds). Amanita Muscaria mushrooms are totally legal. However, you won't find them in the US growing naturally. This is another pleasure you must order from an online vendor. Personally, I didn't get much out of these. I heard a good starter dosage is 3-4 caps. That didn't work for me. I tried 12 caps... got a small buzz... nothing great. But there have been many stories preaching of the greatness of Amanitas, so don't let my personal experience detur you.

Anyone ever hear of Datura? Again, another compound you might have to order from an online vendor. This plant is more prevelant in nature and depending on your location you may be able to find it at a greenhouse or even growing naturally. I think scopolamine is the active chemical (double check me please). Anyways, this plant can be powerful and there have been horror stories reported from smoking Datura. Handle this plant with caution.

Ever hear of DMT (dimethyltryptamine)? Well, it's a highly powerful hallucinogen. Probably ore powerful than any other hallucinogen known to man. Anyway, it's illegal.. sorry. But it's close analog 5-MeO-DMT (5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine) is legal (or at least last time I checked). I ordered some offline. Very powerful shit! Just a few milligrams will give you intense head rushes. The high is extremely short though. Short as in no longer than 5-10 minutes, depending on the dose. Search around online to find this. It is a research chemical.

Ethanol! I know, I'm retarded. I have energy and I want to keep typing. Throw some sugar water in a gallon milk jug with some packets of yeast. First, wrap the yeast in two coffee filters and use a twist-tie to seal them shut. That way the yeast can convert the sugar to alcohol but remain separate from the general solution. Put a balloon on top of the milk jug to collect the CO2 formed and within three weeks you will have a weak, nasty alcohol drink. (Be sure to filter).



EDIT: Dimenhydrinate is the chemical in dramamine... it just came to me!

[StraightEdge]

I hate double posting but I need to talk about DXM. Bongerman, 500mg is way too much for a first time. I doubt half a gram would be bad physically, but a DXM trip is weird the first time. I recommend taking no more than 250mg for a first trip to get the user used to the feel of the drug. Again, its WEIRD! Trust me people that have never done it. It is like nothing you have ever done, unless you have done PCP. Then it's a step down. Anyways, I prefer to extract the dextromethorphan. But if that's too much of a hassle simply get a bottle with DXM only and go to town. Try to eat something because the syrup can be rough on the stomach. Try to calculate how much is in the bottle using the drug information on the back. For example, if the syrup contains 15mg of dextromethorphan per 5mL and the bottle is 250mL, the entire bottle contains 750mg. Math isn't that hard. Just consider it.

Also try 3Ding... it's mixing DXM with diphenhydramine and dimenhydrinate. It's a weird experience. Please work up to this venture!

If anyone has any questions about DXM please ask me first. I've been to the fourth plateau and back!

[-inefficiency-]

Don't worry about the double post, buddy. You provided good information, so it doesn't matter.

Ether is also a fun one. Just buy starter fluid and mix with water. The nonpolar ether layer separates and appears on top. Separate the layers and you have pure, clear ether to huff. I'm not really a fan of huffing but other than nitrous, ether is probably the safest.

By starter fluid, do you mean lighter fluid? I'm a UK resident, so sometimes theres confusion over this sorta thing :P. I just like to be sure about things.

If anyone has any questions about DXM please ask me first. I've been to the fourth plateau and back!

Don't you have to be careful what kinda syrup you drink? Because even though it contains DXM, it will have other chemicals in it that you could overdose on before the DXM has even taken effect. Paracetamol and the like.

Just asking because I have still not seen a bottle of cough syrup that is DXM only.

[Syrus]

Originally Posted by StraightEdge

There's another plant that has mescaline in it that is legal but I cannot think of it right now. A little help, people?

peyote

http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote.shtml


Takes a long time (at least a decade) to get a mature plant but much stronger than san pedro.

Im tempted to invest in a indoor growing expirement with peyote, it is suppsoed to grow quicker indoors.

[Synchronium]

Originally Posted by -inefficiency-

By starter fluid, do you mean lighter fluid? I'm a UK resident, so sometimes theres confusion over this sorta thing :P. I just like to be sure about things.

No, lighter fluid is naphtha.

[S7@1T3D]

Originally Posted by -inefficiency-

Don't you have to be careful what kinda syrup you drink? Because even though it contains DXM, it will have other chemicals in it that you could overdose on before the DXM has even taken effect. Paracetamol and the like.

Just asking because I have still not seen a bottle of cough syrup that is DXM only.

Vicks Formula 44 is DXM only

[-inefficiency-]

OK, so what is starter fluid - what is it used for and where can it be bought, etc.

Not really "home-made", but Synch, have you tried any of your kratom leaves? I know they're for the store, but I would probably sample most stuff I sold if I were you.... but I'm not you, and thats probably a good thing :P.

I lost my bank card, but when I get my new one through I reckon I'll place an order on some Salvia and some Kratom leaves.
I reckon they'll go good together.

S7@1T3D: I reckon I'll be buying some of that then

[blacknhidden]

Starter fluid is eather(sp) Its used for carb trucks/cars, when you get them them started by cranking give them a short burst of eather into the carb and eather everyone knows is EXTREMELY flamable. It also has a very strong smell and just by spraying a burst of it in a closed garage i think you would have a very bad headach IMO
It can be bought at any car store or car parts store, fairly cheap as well. aprox 4dollars US

[Synchronium]

Aether or ether.


And, no I've not sampled my kratom. I REALLLLY want to though, but I only have 45g

Still a fair bit, but if I start using it all, there goes my already-tiny profit margin.

[StraightEdge]

It's ether, not aether. Otherwise known as diethyl ether (chemicial name - C4H10O). Yes, it is in starter fluid, not lighter fluid. I personally found it at a grocery store and sometimes even at convenience stores. Starter fluid is used for your car, so it is not hard to find at all. As I said earlier, ether is relatively safe. They used to use it in hospitals as a analgesic. However, even with the incredible safety of ether, better drugs have been found and used.

And for the DXM... you can buy bottles with only DXM as the active ingredient. A list of active ingedients can be checked on the drug information label. Other chemicals commonly in cough syrup are acetaminophen (paracetemol), deoxy-something succinate (can't remember exactly), guafinesin, and psuedoephedrine. All of the ones just mentioned are pretty bad for you in high doses, especcially psuedoephedrine, which is an upper. Jumbo bottles usually do not contain DXM only but if you can find one with just DXM and guafinesin, the guafinesin comes out in the agent lemon extraction.
It's only these other active ingedients you must worry about when buying cough syrup. Also, do not buy Coricidin Cold and Cough.... this was populat in earlier years because it contained DXM in pill form. However, it also contains CPM, a nasty little chemical that in high doses can do a number on your stomach and liver. Do not buy Coricidin! Coricidin is somewhat outdated as now they offer cough syrup capsules. In fact, Coricidin is where DXM got a bad name from in the media. The only reported deaths (as far as I still know) were from DXM trips via Coricidin. The media didn't bother mentioning the other chemical doing anything to the victim... only that "DXM must be the culprit". The funniest part of this one story I saw was not them blaming DXM for deaths, but the reporter actually pronounced dextromethorphan wrong. Fucking idiot!

Oh, and Syrus, I'm not thinking of peyote. It just came to me... Peruvian Torch! It's a legal plant that contains mescaline.

[S7@1T3D]

hey -inefficiency- glad to help ya. will have to tell me how you go when u try it write up a trip report

[Wurm]

Just a quick side-note: To avoid unnecessary inoculation of your sugar water, make sure you sterilize equipment before trying to create ethanol. Plenty of things besides yeast will grow in that environment, a few dozen species of fungi spring to mind.

[XxbulaxX]

I've done nitrous...It's pretty crazy. You fill a balloon with enough for about 3 or 4 full breaths and just inhale breath by breath till the balloon is empty. It hits you hard by the 2nd breath and when you take about 4 breaths is when you'll get the maximum effects...You hear a loud "wuhwuhwuh" sound and vission is tunnel like...And you can't help but giggle and sit back and just chill.

It lasts about 2 minutes usually before it fades away.

I don't reccomend doing it all the time even though you'll love it...It's basically just a form of suphocating your brain.

[kbk]

I've done ether once, it was pretty amazing. Alot of weird shit, and being outside made it alot better. By the way, the plant that you can extract mescaline from that is legal is the San Pedro cactus, peyote is illegal in the US..

[StraightEdge]

San Pedro or Peruvian Torch contains mescaline, correct kbk.
Ether is fun, but don't get into the habit of doing it too often. It can be pretty hard on the brain. Same goes for nitrous. The good and bad thing about nitrous is the fact that it lasts only a short time and causes very few "hangover" symptoms. This is good because it's fun and it isn't too hard on the body. Nor is it an 8 hour commitment. However, these positive characteristics make abuse all too easy. Nitrous can be very harsh on the brain if done heavy and/or regularly. Make sure an pop a vitamin B6 pill before and after each nitrous binge. All dissociatives (DXM as well) burn out a certain neurotransmitter (I'll be damned - can't recall it right now) that uses vitamin B6. It is important to replenish your system!

[-inefficiency-]

Very good points StraightEdge, thanks for putting those in there.
Little off topic, but on the old BS, was your avatar a face with dragons flying past it, at one point?

Anyway;

"There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved, than a man in the dephs of an ether binge"

-Hunter S. Thompson

Be careful kids...

[XxbulaxX]

I'll definitely take a vitamin b6 if I do it again...Thanks for the advice.

But yeah I would never want to do it regularly...It's fun to do but I can only imagine the long-term effects it can have.

[kbk]

Everyone except for one person that I did the ether with doesn't ever want to do it again. 2/6 people that were there said they would do it again (I was one of them). The starter fluid isn't so easy to get around here anyway so I don't plan on doing it again until a special occasion..

[StraightEdge]

Originally Posted by -inefficiency-

Little off topic, but on the old BS, was your avatar a face with dragons flying past it, at one point?

Yes, it was. I don't recall dragons (although I don't really remember), but I'm quite sure you remember correctly. I wish I could find that picture. I lost in on my computer.

Originally Posted by kbk

The starter fluid isn't so easy to get around here anyway so I don't plan on doing it again until a special occasion..

Starter fluid is VERY easy to get. Any auto parts store will have it. I found some at a damn grocery store. Gas stations most likely will have it. Convenience stores should keep it in stock.
But I agree with your previous comment, most people don't like it, myself included. I've done it about 3 times in my life, the last time being over 3 years ago. It's not terrible, I'm just not really into it. But I must also mention I've done no drugs besides alcohol in a long also.

[kbk]

We had to drive all over the goddamn place looking for it. The one place refused to sell to us and then we had to drive back out to my friends house and we got some at the gas station out there. But that is too far to drive for us on our budget..

Edit: On another note, do any of you have any information relating to extracting mescaline from San Pedro? SWIM wants to do it sometime but would only have access to the materials for about a week...

[Genem]

kbk,
http://www.thenook.org/archives/2568.html
This place has great info on extractions.

Swim tried (and failed ) an extraction a while ago. The 2 places Swim failed were shite PH indicator and not enough solvent (toluene). Another thing you'll need loads of is patience. And don't let anything made of aluminum near it.

Ventilation is very important those fumes can quickly get the better of you and no flames. It sounds like common sense but some people choose to ignore things when it's not convenient.

[StraightEdge]

They refused to sell you starter fluid? Tell those fuckers you need that shit to start your car! They can't refuse to sell you starter fluid. There's no law associated with that. Bullshit if you ask me!

[axekiller]

Tell me more about nitrous, do u just have to inhale the air out of a wipped cream can, and how dangerous is it?

[kbk]

Originally Posted by StraightEdge

They refused to sell you starter fluid? Tell those fuckers you need that shit to start your car! They can't refuse to sell you starter fluid. There's no law associated with that. Bullshit if you ask me!

Yeah it was absolute bullshit. We got some anyway, so fuck those guys. Axekiller: I've heard some really good things about nitrous, and also some really bad things. It seems like it depends on the person, it didn't do a thing for my friend, but for this other guy we know, he was higher than any of us could comprehend. From my understanding, you pop a hole in the side of a can, and inhale.. I could be wrong, seeing as I've not done it.

[grimR]

have bunch of extra dried peruvian torch and seeds if anyone is interested PM me. It's meant for incense purposes only and very high quality. For first orders get a discount at 30+ gr for $25 of incense.

[headcase]

I haven't researched it, but I don't think they'd use nitrous in whipped cream cans. Anyone who says they haven't sprayed it into their mouth is a damn liar and that could lead to problems for those not looking to get high.

[Syrus]

Originally Posted by headcase

I haven't researched it, but I don't think they'd use nitrous in whipped cream cans. Anyone who says they haven't sprayed it into their mouth is a damn liar and that could lead to problems for those not looking to get high.

oh they do. read the can. and ive tried it.


there might be a couple of brands that dont but the ones ive seen do.

[S7@1T3D]

Originally Posted by Syrus

oh they do. read the can. and ive tried it.


there might be a couple of brands that dont but the ones ive seen do.

all cans ive seen contain it but i was told u have to put a whole in the side with a srewdriver. I guess you could just press down on it.

[Bongermann]

Just get a whipped cream can, don't shake it up for a few minutes, and then press the valve open while inhaling the gas escaping. Easier than lighting a bowl up.