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Old 07-21-2005, 11:10 AM
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I don't know if this topic is kosher but if not I do apologise, Id like to know what household items from a convenience store u can pick up and get a buzz I don't know any dealers in my local area and it wud be good to know.Shrooms were great but now are illegal so i need something else I can get a buzz from, but not alcohol cos thats just obvious
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Old 07-21-2005, 07:19 PM
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The first thing that comes to mind is DXM. While it is definitely not something you can "pick up and get a buzz," DXM is a powerful dissociative drug commonly found in cough medicine. If you're interested, read the DXM FAQ.
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:17 PM
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MDMA and amphetamine are relatively easy to make at home when you get yourself some glassware or are you more interested in extracting pure mescaline from san pedro cactusses or psysilibin (sp?).
and GHB of course is the easiest hard drug to make at home GBL + sodium hydroxide (NaOH) --> GHB
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:10 AM
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Wait, mescaline? You now have my interest. Please explain.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:49 AM
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Also GHB - I'm very interested in hearing about that.
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:05 AM
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Well a thread of this nature was bound to arise sooner or later and in fairness it is a legitimate question. Legal drugs easily avaliable...

DXM- Not something I enjoy using but probably the most popular. Excercise caution however.

Morning Glory- commonly avaliable seeds of the flower Ipomoea violacea that contain an agent which produces similiar effects to LSD... but personally I've heard some real horror stories about them. Again, not to be taken lightly.

Salvia- Not readily avaliable in convinience stores but is so over the internet. A very very powerful drug when used correctly.

Mescaline- Taken from a San Pedro cactus- legal to order and buy in the UK.

If you're looking for something even less sensible but even easier and more readily avaliable (and I wouldn't recomend any of these):

Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas).

Nutmeg- Ground up and smoked it can *occasionally* have psychoactive effects.

Butane etc but don't be a lemon and do that.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:11 PM
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I know there are drugs like salvia and herbal extasy but I was just wondering if there's anything I can pick up in a supermarket that will do something without to much harm?In response to icecool how exactly do I make or buy those ingredients anywhere thats not online?
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:25 PM
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hey, what's wrong with nitrous?

eh, you could try for ether, although, DXM in low doses isn't too bad.

I've never seen GBL for sale anywhere but the internet, so eh, GHB might not be such a good idea. I've been told the effect is only like being drunk anyway so eh.
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Old 07-22-2005, 05:51 PM
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Well I've seen GBL on sale on internet at A LOT of places, and besides if interested in that PM me then I can arrange something for you ;-).
Anyway GHB I have a synthesis for that too, let me know if you are interested as the same with all other things and I'll make an online synthesis with photo's in the topic and upload the pdf.
In there are the ratio's and amounts etc etc etc.
For GHB in short you need GBL and NaOH, NaOH needs to be solid and can be found as drain cleaner.
GBL is hard to find but in some country's it is a part of nail polish remover.
Or grafitti remover, look around and if you find it you can extract it.
Mescaline concerning you can make that the same as amphetamine but you need another precusor, if you change it you can do the same procedure and get mescaline or 2CB as a product.
Same goes for this one I also have a synthesis with pictures on this one .
another method is to grind the cactus and then make a mush of it and then mix it with toluene or any other non polar solvent and then evaporate off the solvent and be left with crude dirty mescaline, then one can do an acid/base purification.
I'll explain that later if there is anyone interested in that.
For the sake of clearing everything up, I was a guy who made explosives, A LOT and made a lot of them and then I started pyrotechnics then I started making drugs as I also started at the same time a chemical study in organic chemistry, so now I still have the HE knowledge and the organic so, almost every organic question can be pointed to me :wink:
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:53 PM
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I got a D in chemistry so I don't know how to extraxt where to buy equipment etc have pmd u am interested still if i can make something myself i will b proud
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:01 PM
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Try GHB then, it is simple doesn't require professional glassware etc.
You need GBL and NaOH as I sayd before, look for grafiti removers etc.
If you can't find GBL let me know and I'll give you an adress for it.
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Old 07-27-2005, 05:07 AM
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icecool : Doesn't GBL simply metabolise in your system into GHB anyway?
Its been a while since I've read anything on this, so what I'm about the say quite possibly has errors.

GBL used to be available as a body building supplement???...though I think it has since been made unavailable ( At least in Australia)

another direct percursor to GHB through metabolic pathways is 1,4-Butendiol, which is quite a common industrial solvent, but kinda difficult to get in small quantities. I've heard that some CD cleaners are 1,4B, but I'd be reluctant to try it.

As Mr Mushrooms said there is morning glory, but an alternative to Morning Glory seeds is Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. They contain LSA, but you only need to ingest less then 10 seeds most of the time, but they are known cause nausea and such. (also, are illegal in Australia to consume...but not to possess or grow)

Salvia Divinorum is a bit grey with regards to legality in Australia... it could be illegal, but people aren't really sure.
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:40 AM
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try drahmamine its a trippy ass drug that you can get over the counter but you have to take like 10-12 of em to get the effect and the next day sucks but be carefull with the shit lol i went on a 3 week binge on that stuff and now my heart skips a beat
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:31 AM
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for DXM what cough medicines contain this in the UK? and what the hell dus drahmamine do?
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:28 PM
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DXM is in Robotussin Maximum strength cough. Don't get cough and cold. You will need 2-3 4oz bottles depending on how high you want to be. Look for anything that only contains dextromethorphan on the ingredient list, and 15 mg of it. Stay away from anything that has guaifenesin or any other ingredient under the main ingredients. I don't know if any of this is sold over the counter in UK but it is here. I think they just made a law saying you have to be 18 to buy it. Its a tricky drug to not get sick on, but if you figure out its great. And it should be around 4-6 dollars. I don't know what that is in UK money.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:48 PM
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i looked around today but can't find anything, maybe you can only get it on prescription over here
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:05 PM
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Salvia divoniorium is legal in the netherlands as an extract and also dried leaves.

And GBL is indeed used in body building but not anymore now it is now illegal.
And out of 1,4-butanediol it is very hard to make GHB the effect is the same as you take 1,4-butanediol or GHB but you can't easily make GHB out of it.
It is easy though to make GHB out of GBL and it is used in nail polish removers and grafiti remover.
If one wants to use 1,4-butanediol it should be diluted with water 50:50 ratio and then taken 1,5ml.
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:15 PM
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You will need 2-3 4oz bottles depending on how high you want to be.
I would not recommend doing more than one 4oz (354mg) for a first time. DXM is a strong drug, and some people can trip balls from a relatively small dose. Taking a Benadryl about an hour before you dose helps the nausea a lot too. If you have any questions about DXM consult the FAQ or ask on here.
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:33 PM
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It's safe to use up to about 500mg's the first time... Trust me on this.
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:02 AM
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I think that taking 500mg on your very first trip with DXM would be a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, 500mg isn't even close to a lethal dose but DXM is one of those drugs that everyone responds to differently. If you're one of the few people who respond very poorly to DXM, 500mg could be a real nightmare, especially if you have a lower body weight. I would say try it at least once at 150-200mg just to make sure DXM isn't toxic to you specifically.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:48 AM
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drahmamine is motion sickness pills, and what it does to you is really wierd.

the trip starts off by you having this oh shit feeling and you just stare off into space, you look funny when ever you do it too cause your mouth just hangs open and your eyes bug out, but the best part is trying to sleep or close your eyes cause you trip out outragesly, when ever you close your eyes its like a dream but it feels just like its real untill you open your eyes, all in all its really wierd you just have to try it, but dont take more than 12 or so cause any more than that is just pointless, 20 is usually an OD but ive known people who are just stupid and take like 24 up to 30 and love it because they pretty much lapse into a coma for a day.
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:24 PM
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DXM really isn't that big of a deal. You're not going to get too high to where you can't handle it. I've taken 2 4oz bottles and didn't really get that much. 2 is what I would suggest for someone new because of the everyone reacts different thing. 1 bottle is not going to do much if anything. The most I have done is 16oz. Its a pretty safe drug all you have to worry about is getting sick. If this happens don't pay too much attention to it, just get fresh air and try to ignore it. And to prevent it eat a little about a half hour before drinking anything. Eat like bread or something like that. Other than that its pretty easy and good. I get really confused when I do large amounts of it. And try not to worry about it, most people are not noticing that your face looks weird.
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