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I have been trying to find a way to extract pure THC from weed. The closeest thing I can find is THC oil which contains up to 70% THC

So my question is... Does anybody know of a way to end up with pure crystalized THC?
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WHY!!! Just smoke the weed, when you extract, you don't get all the other canabinoids that are present in weed. You're screwing yourself out off some weed.
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Because (according to wikipedia) THC is soluble in nonpolar solvents, you will have a hard time separating waxes, etc from the oil.

And btw, THC is one of the few psychoactive cannabinoids.
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That isn't to say that the non-actives don't make it a little more pleasant or sweet-tasting.
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The other canabinoids could have an effect on the body as opposed to the mind, but also you lose THC when you extract, I suppose though if you want to make extremely potent weed(Like you don't like the smoke but enjoy the high) Then it's a good idea.
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I am trying to reduce the negitive affects of pot use.

I don't mind smoking I just don't want to do it anymore
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Then eat it... Learn to cook, 2 birds one stone aye?
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I can cook really really well

In fact a chef is what I want to be when I grow up (Haven't heard that statement in a while have you?)

I just like the whole smoking experience... How it's very social
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how is it not you pass a bong around in a circle of people talking.
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He didn't say it wasn't. In fact, quite the opposite.

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I just like the whole smoking experience... How it's very social
As stated, you'd have to remove one non-polar oil from another, which is problematic. Plus, it'd be difficult to know what oils are present in the first place. If it's only for recreational use, why do you need 100%?

As for crystalline THC, it doesn't really exist. Those crystals coating your plant are the closest you'll get. A buddy has a grinder that removes the crystals and compresses them into little blocks. They're pretty potent. Go for that.
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Is THC itself not an oil under normal conditions anyway?
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Not "pure THC" but if you want to reduce the effects of smoking:

Bubble Bags.com

Hash Honey Oil extraction.

Both of these methods will give you a product that can be heated in a glass pipe so that you smoke only the vapor. (I have heard that the butane extraction process leaves butane in the oil, the "bubble bag" method is supposedly better.) The "Bubble Bags" also sort the crystals by size, allowing you to be more selective about what you smoke.

Or you could buy a vaporiser bong.
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Yeah, there was a product 99.7% (GCMS) THC called "Budder" being sold in Canada by some guy calling himself "Budder King" & while being more or less "pure" THC, it was still a light yellow oil as I recall.

So much for crystals..
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as for the so called crystals on the weed. these arent crystals, they are little hairs, called tricomes, contain the most THC.

however, THC is proven to not be too good fro your body, and there are other compounds in weed that reduce these effects, i cant name them now, but that was the reason for more people getting schizophrenic due to overly potent weed.

i think weed is a nice balance of all the pretty chemicals that gives you a wonderful feeling [:
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however, THC is proven to not be too good fro your body, and there are other compounds in weed that reduce these effects, i cant name them now, but that was the reason for more people getting schizophrenic due to overly potent weed.
Proof. Schizophrenia-its just extreme paranoia and being very high.
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That's not proof of any kind. Schizophrenia doesn't have to have anything to do with being high.

Unless I'm mistaken, the two posts above are complete & total bullshit.

THC has not shown to be damaging in any credible study that I've yet to read. I want some goddamn evidence. If anything, it's shown more positive than anything.

Here, peruse this forum before you speak: Science
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im not criticising the idea that weed is healthy. what i am trying to say that if you take 1000 weed smokers now, and 1000 weed smokers a few years ago, you will find that more of these people suffer from mental illnesses. HOWEVER, they arent really because of the weed, and normally they just make it more likely that you do end up with a mental disease.

what i am trying to say is that the weed you got 60 years ago (or less was up to 30 times less potent. there is a balance. i cant find it in english but, here it is in german

Wirkstoffe

Für die Wirkung von Cannabis und Haschischprodukten sind hauptsächlich folgende drei Hauptkomponenten verantwortlich[7], die sich in ihrer Wirkung wechselwirkend beeinflussen[8].

1. Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), welches zum Großteil den psychoaktiven Effekt von Cannabis hervorruft.
2. Cannabinol (CBN) ist vorrangig für die muskelrelaxierende (krampflösende) Wirkung verantwortlich.
3. Cannabidiol (CBD) wirkt nach neuesten Studien dem THC-Effekt entgegen, schwächt damit dessen Wirkung und sorgt gleichzeitig für eine längere Wirkungsdauer des Gesamteffekts auf die körperlichen Prozesse. Ein hoher CBD-Anteil in den Trichomen schwächt den allgemeinen psychoaktiven Effekt und führt zu einer eher körperbetonten, sedierenden Wirkung, anstatt zu einer bewusstseinserweiternden Erfahrung.


what its saying is that there are alot more chemicals that contribute to the actual high you get from weed. there are other chemicals in the plant that also reduce the positive effects weed can have on the smoker. the article mentions CBD, as the stuff that gives you that sedated feeling.


what im trying to say is that over the years, the balance of psychoactive chemicals have changed, which may lead to different short and long term effects.


Cannabis psychosis
this article is about how cannabis can precipitate a psychosis with individuals that have no actual background. the article isnt too good though.

Cannabis Use and Psychosis
this article is about 'cannabis psychosis', which seems to be like short term mental disturbances which wouldnt have been present without the use of cannabis.


i seriously dont want to discourage any smoker here, i smoke myself, i just think if your wanna get high, you take all the other chemicals, not just THC. there are hundreds of other chemicals that add to the feeling.
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...and how is this relevant?

how did you even post that? dont you need a 10 word limit?

and they wouldnt hear voices, because they wouldnt know what they sound like, or maybe what they think it sounds like, but they dont know what anything sounds like... ugh confusing!

its actually a valid argument though. shame its not yours.
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True, but it got you to think about it & actually post something. lol

I was high as hell, that's my excuse; what's yours?

Also, I've been thinking (insert joke): Budder is made via super critical CO2 extraction IIRC. Somebody feel free to double check this but that's the last I read up on it. I think your IPA may be more selective than butane not only due to reduced exposure time but MAINLY due to the nature of the solvent. IPA is one carbon shorter than scButane. Most of the cannabinoids & related oils in the place are non-polar/lipophilic. I think THC may not be as lipophilic as some of the rest of these oils & especially waxes.... So, theory being, the fewer carbons we have on the solvent structure (so long as there is one), the more selective they may be in pulling certain cannabinoids over others and/or oils/waxes/chlorophyll etc.. IPA has 3 carbons, ethanol has 2, methanol 1.... However, scCO2 only has one... makes me wonder if scCH4 or scC2H6 might work nearly as well as scCO2?

I think the semi polarity is partly the reason for the selectivity of CO2 and keeping a constant flush of scCO2 past the plant material might keep the other compounds from being taken up so easily. This would be cool to test with cleaned methane in a PVC chamber.

Then again, it could be because THC in the natural state exists mostly as carboxylic acid form, THC-OOH. THAT is maybe where the scCO2 comes in due to like dissolving like, CO2 itself being a weak carboxylic acid (correct?). That sorta feels right so far. Looks good on paper to me anyway. Another carboxylic acid may be better than an alcohol or straight alkane in sc form.

So, uh, yeah... like that.
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Guys, I was just kidding with the whole cartoon thing... as told, I was high.

Now, willi, the fact that THC can cause anxiety is not really a point of contention, CBD counters that anxiety in pot.
Brazilian Journal of Medical and Biological Research - Cannabidiol, a Cannabis sativa constituent, as an antipsychotic drug

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is a gross bit of twisting the facts...

Look, if you mean to say that the acetaldehyde in the smoke is a problem, use a bong.
Marijuana Damages DNA And May Cause Cancer, New Test Reveals

Otherwise, if you'd like to see just how many ways THC is HELPFUL to the body, perhaps you'd care to scroll on through a couple pages here?
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lol, dont worry. you dont need to persuade me of the facts that THC can be good for your body. everything can be good for your body and mind, in reasonable dosages [:

using butane has become quite common practice. but using supercritical CO2? i havent heard of that before. care to link me up, it sounds really interesting!




i believe that weed has analgesic properties, and i use it... because... my elbow hurts, haha. i love medicines [:

but if you have a schizophrenic, who has been deaf all his life, he wont know how to pronounce a word, or a letter. if he went deaf over time, then yes. he could, ...i think? xD
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I don't know, but it sounds good on paper.

PS. It's still fun to make faces @ blind people.

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...or swear at deaf people... or feed tastless people unsavoury excretements(sp) :]

that song is wierd.... but makes me want to be around at the time D:

'that blind mans penis is erect, because he is blind' xD

how would you extract something with supercritical CO2? would you need to keep it under pressure, aswell as cooling it, or would dry ice do? because CO2 doesnt have a liquid state, this would get quite complicated.

are you sure this is what they used for budder?
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That's not proof of any kind. Schizophrenia doesn't have to have anything to do with being high.

Unless I'm mistaken, the two posts above are complete & total bullshit.

THC has not shown to be damaging in any credible study that I've yet to read. I want some goddamn evidence. If anything, it's shown more positive than anything.

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What I meant was "proof?" not "proof." And my response was that it is its just extreme paranoia and being very high not actual schizophrenia.

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Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.
According to MedlinePlus's definition of schizophrenia it seems to me that pot does kinda cause it except for the mental disorder bit so I think that kinda disqualifies it.
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This has already been discussed elsewhere. This topic is concerned with pure THC (although not crystals it seems). Stick to it.
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The other day I made hash by cooking shake leaves in a cup of water. I boiled all the liquid out of it and smoked it. Good stuff.
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If you are looking for pure THC then it is hard to find. You have to get a script for the drug called Marinol which is said to be synthetic but tests otherwise >.>

Marinol is a pill of pure THC though it has caused a few health problems in people that take it as well as the fact its expensive as shit and costs a hell of a lot of money.

If you want a well balanced, really good weed experience that will make you smile at your success here are my steps

Items you need:

A high powered kickass blender (the ones that can turn sugar into powdered sugar)

A Vaporizer, pref the whip kind

A eyedropper

A bottle of PGA

and of course..your sticky icky...

Make yourself some Green Dragon and drip it on the weed, then let it dry. Repeat over and over till the weed is ungodly sticky.

Toss it in the blender and press go, will take a minute to blend cuz the blender will be all like WTF? your trying to blend candy!...but it works out in the end...ya keep blendin and blendin till finaly you got a fine powder that you proceed to take out and use for whatever ya want.

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Marinol is a synthetic drug so it is not a pill of pure THC, but there is sativex and that is derived from the actual plant. And your process just stupid, putting it into a blender will waste so much because a lot of it will stick to the blades of the blender and you won't be able to get it out.
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hehe you might not be able to get it out, but when I am geekin I can spend hours cleaning it all out *nods* brings good fun indeed
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