Shroom propogation

[bob]

Here's my method which has prevailed so far when im not travelling...

Get pile of fresh dung and water it the ncover it with clear plastic but stab a few holes for air and when the mushrooms grow if ur lucky give them a decent flick on the top before you pick the mto drop any spores and continue the watering and covering process until no longer need of shrooms or you run out of spores have fun let me know if it's come in handy 4 anyone

[Joshy]

how long does it normally take if you dont mind me asking?

[Chron]

This sounds disgusting but it works, trust me.

[Jago]

dung and straw is best, it needs to be done at a certain temperature though, and kept at the certain temperature and in the right environment. Also make sure u have a spore syringe prepped before it's all done.
www.shroomery.org
great info on there

[-inefficiency-]

Its gonna be harder than usual with the upcoming illegalisation of shrooms over here.

[blank stare]

Stems are poisonous, so you need to remove them. Any pointers?
edit: apparently they aren't poisonous after all.

I already looked it up on shroomery.org but didn't find it, so what is a spore syringe :?:

[-inefficiency-]

Stems are poisonous on what species? I ate the stems on p. cubensis once and it didnt make a difference.

[Wendle T. Wolf]

stems are not poisonous. unless of course ur dealing with a poisonous shroom for chrissake. a spore syringe is sterile water with spores in it. you use them to inject spores into substrate.

[-inefficiency-]

Jeez, I thought that was kinda off....

[blank stare]

What was kind of off? Anyway lemme get the process straight. The original post didn't say anything about spores, so do you always need to? I'm assuming you take the spores from the shrooms that have already grown and use them to grow even more, right? Also, does it have to be a syringe? I can get an insulin syringe, that's about it.

EDIT: I found an instruction thingy on how to do it, though I've yet to read it all.
here.

[Wendle T. Wolf]

technically, no, you dont always need them. you could get some and grow a batch, and use the spores from them to keep the process going by making a spore print or syringe like u said. however, this is kinda a narrow way to approach it becaseu there are alot of different types of magic mushrooms. personally, i like to try new kinds and keep continous batches of my favorites, while discarding the weaker varieties.

[-inefficiency-]

I meant that I thought that the whole thing about the stems being poisonous was a bit off.

[blank stare]

I keep hearing about different kinds. How many kinds are there, and is it possible that unwanted varieties will grow in their stead?

[Wendle T. Wolf]

just check out shroomery, and also if u want a very nice list of most varieties go here www.thehawkseye.com

[blank stare]

That site really helps. I'd say you could look at that pic on the main site for hours when you're tripping on shrooms.

EDIT: I didn't want to make a double post, so I'm editing this one. I know this is a little off topic but this is it possible to cook shrooms? Like on a pizza. I was reading about someone who put them on a bagel so I just got to wondering. Are there shroom recipes? Oh, and does it matter if it's on an empty stomach?

[Jago]

stem's aren't poisonous unless the whole thing is poisonous. I've never heard of an edible or a psychoactive shroom having a poisonous stem with a fine cap, and i've been shroom hunting since i was a little kid (edible mainly)

[Joshy]

EDIT: I didn't want to make a double post, so I'm editing this one. I know this is a little off topic but this is it possible to cook shrooms? Like on a pizza. I was reading about someone who put them on a bagel so I just got to wondering. Are there shroom recipes? Oh, and does it matter if it's on an empty stomach?

of course you can they are disgusting raw I normally chop them up very finely and chuck them into a soup, i tried them once raw and got nothing apart from nearly puking.

[blank stare]

Apparently when they are heated up too much they don't work. So you can't actually cook them. So should I be on an emty stomach?

[Genem]

I wouldn't eat them on a completely empty stomach, have a snack like a sandwich or something. I find i get an upset stomach when i take shrooms on an empty stomach. Making a tea is my favorite method of taking shrooms

Put boiling water in a cup, throw in shrooms, leave for about 20-30 min, remove the now sloppy shrooms, add sugar and drink. This method has never faild me. I've only ever tried fresh shrooms so i don't know if dried would make any difference.
Have fun and post your experiences in the other thread.
Just got a portion of fresh shrooms today

[-inefficiency-]

Bah... don't be a pussy :P.
I just munch them up, then swallow them with a swig of a drink. Get them into me nice and quick.

Anyone got any designs for stealth growing techniques?

[Jago]

most psychoactives are fine if u brew a tea or something. Or drie them up, crush them up or powder them using a coffee grinder, put em in capsules, dump it, or brew a tea.
It's really important to get a good ID, so always do a spore print test.

[blank stare]

I've only ever tried fresh shrooms so i don't know if dried would make any difference.

I didn't know you could dry them.

Originally Posted by inefficiency

Anyone got any designs for stealth growing techniques?

I'd say grow them under your house if you live in a trailor, otherwise maybe inside a tv? We had a thread last time about hiding [stuff] and it was agreed that the inside of electronics could be the best place to stash it.

Is it possible to buy spores, not shrooms, but spores, on the street? I want to grow my own, but I'll have to get some spores first. Buying them online is hardly an option with the spyware on this PC.

I just thought of something. When I was maybe five years old, I had this habid of pissing in the corner. A piece of furniture was put there for about six months, and when it was moved I discovered mushrooms growing. Now I assume that there was decay caused by the liquid and the fungus was fed by my pee. Would a similar environment be livable to shrooms?

[Wendle T. Wolf]

i just eat them and wash it down with OJ, pure and simple. ive fasted a few times before eating them and damn, they hit harder. not my preferred method tho. anyway..... a couple answers to a couple questions:
calcium chloride is THE BEST way to dry shrooms, no questions.
no, that kind of environment is not suitable for mushies. if u want quality shit then u need to be able to maintain a sterile, constant environemnt. temperature, humidity, sterility and the main things u gotta worry about. i suppose it would be possible to do it in an elcotronic device, but it would be hard. reason being that shrooms need a source of heat and humidity. also, opening up ur tv all the time to maintain ur shit wouldnt be too fun in my opinion.

[blank stare]

This is a method for multiplying spore syringes by growing in liquid, specifically water mixed with honey.
Honey is used because it is common and cheap, but substitution can be made of honey by malt extract/dextrose/corn sugar if available.
The tek is flexible in that it can easily be done in different size jars as long as the proper ratio is maintained between the sugars and the water.
The correct mixture for optimum results is 4% sugars {honey, malt} by weight and 96% water.
Water weighs 1 gram per cc/ml so if you use 100 ml as total weight, then 96 grams/ml/cc of water is mixed with 4 grams of honey, etc.
For those who figure that close is good enough, roughly 1 tablespoon of honey per pint will work.
The basic idea then is to get a jar with a good lid, canning jars like commonly used in pf tek work great.
The lid can be drilled and the hole covered with a filter disk or stuffed with polyfil to allow spores to be injected after the mix has been sterilized.
alternatively, one can use a glovebox and simply crack the lid a little to inoculate.
After the lid has been prepared, add the water and honey and stir until the honey disolves. It's easier if warm water is used.
Then tighten the lid and pressure cook or steam for 30-40 minutes. Don't overdo it because too much heat too long will ruin the mix by carmelizing the sugars.
After it cools to room temperature it is ready to be inoculated. Inject 1 or 2 cc's of spore solution into each jar.
Alternatively, instead of spores, mycellial tissue from any part of any living shroom can be substituted.
Keep the inoculated jar warm in a clean environment.
Within several days, strands of mycellial tissue will appears and begin to grow.
Allow it to grow at least several days then it is ready to use. You can draw up syringefuls thru the polyfil/filter or open it inside a glovebox, etc.
Try to get as much tissues as possible in the syringes, a nice thick mix will grow out very fast when used to inoculate jars, etc.
Store excess in clean refridgerator or discard within a few more days as the mix is best used fresh.
In the 'fridge, it can last until the sugar runs out, about a month or so, usually.
Also, if you want to grow out a lot, the mix can be drained and strained and the mycellia consumed for a little treat.




My question is this: would it be possible to use a clean spoon, in a sterile environment, to get some of the tissue out and inoculate a PF cake with it? That is, rather than inject it with a needle. Reason being that I think the guage of my needle is too fine to fit any reasonable thickness of stuff in there.

[Wendle T. Wolf]

if ur gonna do it that way, u might as well just case it. but make sure u pressure cook ur substrate.

[blank stare]

Well it said nothing about growing them to maturity like that. Would that even work? Because if so, that's a lot better sounding method to me. But I can't see them growing like that to maturity. After they start to be recognizable mushrooms, you'd have to take off the cap.

[scorpz911]

Originally Posted by -inefficiency-

Bah... don't be a pussy :P.
I just munch them up, then swallow them with a swig of a drink. Get them into me nice and quick.

Anyone got any designs for stealth growing techniques?

I know some guerilla growing techniques for weed, but I think you are better off getting one of those spore kits for home growth.

Damnit, I knew those things were legal in England, I tried like hell to find them when I transferred in Gatwick this summer, but I couldnt find them anywhere.

And I agree, just put em down the fuckin hatch, when their wet they slide down like moldy jello lol.

[blank stare]

You don't have to chew them? I heard someone say that half-frozen(slushy) lemonade was good for getting nutmeg down, maybe it'd work for shrooms too.

[-inefficiency-]

Well, you don't have to chew - but I'd rather not choke and die...

[Jago]

Originally Posted by blank stare

Stems are poisonous, so you need to remove them. Any pointers?
edit: apparently they aren't poisonous after all.

I already looked it up on shroomery.org but didn't find it, so what is a spore syringe :?:

there's info all over the site