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Old 07-04-2008, 03:34 PM
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For a long while I've been looking for a way to make MDMA with over the counter goods. I think I've found a solution.

Bromosafrole + methylamine in methanol ----------> MDMA

Add hydrobromic acid and sassafras oil and to extract the bromosafrole freeze it like most extractions can be done.

Keep pumping methylamine gas into a glass container with a lid (jar is recommended) with methanol inside it. Once saturated add bromosafrole. Close the jar with lid and over the duration of a week stir and shake it up twice a day (at the very least) with a stirring rod.

After the 7 days you'll want the methylamine turned into methanol insoluble ammonium chloride, to do this add hydrochloric acid to the remaining methylamine. You'll want to evaporate the methanol and filter the ammonium chloride to receive crude MDMA.

Now to crystallize you'll do this method that I've found (note this crystallization method was NOT written by me) or you could choose any other acid/base method (if you know basic chemistry at the very least then you'll know what I mean); but I myself would choose this one because after looking through it seems accurate to my "organic chemistry" knowledge:

Here's bright star's method:
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6. Crystallization (MDMA oil + HCl in IPA/Xylene)

This must be done in anhydrous conditions. If its not, then you will not get crystals. Anhydrous means ’no-water’.If water is present, then you can expect to get #*@!.

Procedure:

This first step can be done ahead of time. Like, during a distillation or reaction: Get a fresh bottle of 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, and pour out approximately 100mL. Now get some of your DRY Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom Slats)(about 100mL worth) and dump it into the 91% IPA. There might be a little heat evolution, but not to worry . Shake it up and then let it sit till the Mg(SO4) settles out. Pour off the IPA, and then put more fresh Mg(SO4) into it (about 100mL worth). Now shake the bottle and let it sit for 15 minutes. You must do this at least three times . It really is much better to do it four times . Why #*@! it up now right? After three times you will have ’Dry’ IPA. You can actually do this while you are distilling or waiting for a reaction to proceed .

Make a mixture of 100mL ’Dry’ IPA and 150mL Xylene. Pour it into the flask that contains the MDMA oil, and drop the stirbar in too. Stir so that the whole thing is mixed up real well . Now drip in Muriatic Acid slowly. Test with pH paper every 5 drops or so. keep adding the Muriatic Acid until the pH of the solution is 5-6. . or just barely acidic.

Set up for vacuum distillation, and distill the solution, distill this with the stirbar in instead of the boiling stones . IE When the solution has reached a pH of 5-6 . Start distilling. Be careful not to let the solution get above 120C . When a lot of the solution has boiled away, crystals will spring to life in the flask. Under vacuum, the solution should never get above 70C.

Filter these with a coffee filter, suspended over a jar . This gets the excess IPA/Xylene out. Scrape the crystals on to a plate and let the crystals dry, by letting the IPA/Xylene (mostly Xylene at this point) evaporate . this might take several hours . a 60 Watt lamp 6 inches (20cm) away from the crystals shining brightly helps. Stir the crystals to promote even heating.

The crystals will be a brown-yellow color. Now scrape the crystals into a jar, and pour ~20mL of acetone onto them. Swirl the mixture. The crystals won’t dissolve . but a lot of the brown will. The brown-acetone is poured off, and the acetone wash is repeated.

After the acetone wash, dry the crystals. You should have around 15g of dry crystals. That’#*@!s. The now ’almost white’ crystals have melting point values over the range from 145-153 C, depending on how much water was in there during crystallization And these crystals are ready for consumption.
Well here comes my question, it's kinda a semi over the counter synthesis. How the hell would I get safrole? Is there anything I can extract safrol from or anything that can substitute it?

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NOTE: Taking sassafras in any oral form is discouraged strongly. The sale of products that contain significant amounts of safrole (a major chemical in sassafras) is prohibited by law in both Canada and the United States.

In 1960, the U. S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) banned the use of sassafras oil and safrole in foods and drugs based on the animal studies and human case reports. Several years later, the sale of sassafras oil, roots, or tea was prohibited by law. Subsequently, both Canada and the United States have passed laws against the sale of any consumable products (such as beverages, foods, cosmetics, and health products) that contain more than specific small amounts of safrole.

In 1960, the U. S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) banned the use of sassafras oil and safrole in foods and drugs based on the animal studies and human case reports. Several years later, the sale of sassafras oil, roots, or tea was prohibited by law. Subsequently, both Canada and the United States have passed laws against the sale of any consumable products (beverages, foods, cosmetics, health products such as toothpaste, and others) that contain more than specific small amounts of safrole.
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you can go out of the country to buy large bottles of 80%-90% safrole oil and take it into the country. This is legal but still should be under the radar.

The other popular method is to take up botany. Through looking on global seed trade websites you can find plants that naturally produce safrole in surprisingly large quantities (15% - 99% by weight.) You will need a green house to grow these seeing as most plants are native to brazil i believe. Theres a long list of safrole extractable plants on erowid if you want to check it out. You can get pounds of id and all you pay is the initial seed price (or trade) and the greenhouse cost.
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