does anyone know how i can obtain diethyl ether?

[quizsalt]

ive been googling forever and all i can find are experiences and chemistry of it but no way to make it, extract it or buy it.
if you can help me out it would be greatly apreciated
thanks.

[S7@1T3D]

Some Motor starters contain a ether but not to certain of which kind or brand.

I was right

Diethyl ether has a high cetane number of 85 - 96 and is used as a starting fluid for diesel and gasoline engines[5] because of its high volatility and low

Diethyl ether - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[quizsalt]

is there a way to extract it so your not inhailing all the bad stuff?

[S7@1T3D]

Hole in the side of a can to get it all.

There would be a extraction somewhere maybe even here or erowid.

[quizsalt]

Gitsie found this for me its quite usefull.

Erowid Psychoactive Vaults : OTC Solvents FAQ

[S7@1T3D]

Is it possible to extract ether from starter fluid using simply water? How else can you extract ether from starter fluid?
A: In short, not really. The only way to effectively separate petroleum distillates from diethyl ether in starter fluid is by fractional distillation. This requires appropriate equipment and training in relevant lab procedures, can be EXTREMELY dangerous, and is outside of the skillset of most people (see warning below).

First, it is important to distinguish between ether (the specific chemical diethyl ether with the molecular formula C4H10O) and petroleum ether, a name for a mixture of hydrocarbons with no specific chemical identity. When used for inhalation, the term "ether" is usually assumed to mean the specific chemical diethyl ether, used as an anaesthetic in the early 20th century, although there is confusion among experimental individuals, some of whom buy products labeled as containing petroleum ether.

"Starter fluid" (or "starting fluid") is a generic term referring to a mixture of combustible volatile solvents, commonly "engine starter fluid" for automotive or other engine uses. While engine starter fluid includes 20-60% diethyl ether, depending on grade, it also contains petroleum distillates such as hexane and heptane.1 Many charcoal lighter fluids - sometimes also referred to as "starter fluid" - are composed almost entirely of petroleum distillates and contain no ether at all.2

Some websites and experience reports mention a "water extraction" procedure that involves shaking a mixture of distilled water and starter fluid. This method supposedly "separates" the diethyl ether from "impurities" (referring to the petroleum distillates). The technique then describes pouring off or suctioning off particular layers of the resulting mix to get purer ether for inhalation.

The so-called "water extraction" method is simplistic and ineffective, since petroleum distillates and water are not miscible (petroleum distillates do not dissolve in water), and the distillates stay mixed with the ether, because of their common chemical nature. In fact, if the components in the water-insoluble fraction were to separate, which is highly unlikely, the density of ether would put it at the bottom, closest to the water, at the water:non-polar interface, making it very difficult to isolate. Because ether is slightly soluble in distilled water,3 the volume of the ether in the water-insoluble fraction may actually be reduced by repeated shaking and separating.

The Entheogen Review looked at this issue and reported the same thing: "Ether is slightly soluble in distilled water and heptane is insoluble. Hence, if one were to try to clean up starting fluid via repeatedly shaking with distilled H2O and then separating the layers, you not only don't end up with very good ET2O, but you are actually reducing the amount of ether that you have."5

People reporting the inhalation of "ether from starter fluid" by "water extraction" are not successfully extracting ether: they are huffing a mixture of ether and petroleum distillates.

While diethyl ether at moderate doses mixed with proper amounts of oxygen seems to be less toxic than some more modern anaesthetics,5 inhalation of some of the volatile hydrocarbon gases in starter fluid have been shown to lead to nerve and organ damage.6

Warning #
It is extremely dangerous to attempt ether distillation without training and proper equipment. Ether can form very dangerously unstable, explosive peroxides when concentrated by distillation. Ether by itself is quite volatile and can ignite if an improper distillation column is used.

Ask Erowid : ID 3114 : Can you extract ether from starter fluid?

[quizsalt]

yeh i dont think i should try that yet becouse i have no experience or skill
with distilation and the prosses seems to risky to attempt without that.

thanks for all your help :]

[willi-wurm]

i know of 2 ways. take the can, and hold it upside down, and spray it empty (do this outside!) when there is nothing left in the can, cut a hole in it, and empty it in a ziplock bag. then, take the ziplockbag, and put as much water in there as there is in be bag already. now, shake for 5 minutes, and there will be 2 layers. the bottom layer is the water mixed with all the other substances, and the top layer is your ether. this works, because the water bonds with the other chemicals, and seperates it. as we know, alcohol doesnt bond all to well with water, so it will be swimming on the top. now, pour off your water, and pour off your ether into an empty peroxide bottle, or a bottle that has god dark glass or plastic. store in a cold dark room and keep a way from flames. use it as followed: to get high from it, just take a deep breath of the fumes. to use it as an
anasthetic, place in a cloth, and breath in an out of the cloth till you drop down. warning, you lose quite a few braincells.

[-inefficiency-]

I'm sure that there's info on this somewhere on the board. Check either the "Homemade Drugs" thread, or just do a search on Ether.

[quizsalt]

one of the links above disproves that method but i will try it anyway
just in case to see if it works ill post the results too.


i did i used the search engine all i found was a thread labeled
??what is ether??
and it just describes the difference bettween petrolium ether and
dieythl ether.

[Corporal Punishment]

distillation of H2SO4 and EtOH....

takes some special precautions though...and a gas mask...

[headcase]

Given that no one has answered the question yet;

Originally Posted by 420_4life

Engine starter fluid is (Diethyl Ether) not (petroleum ether which is naptha).

What you want to do is find a can of engine starter fluid in your local canadian tire or w/e, that says on the side high diethyl ether content.

You need a piece of PVC pipe, or any pipe and a jar. You put the ether aerosol can at one end of the pipe and the jar at the other, preferable your can is on the top pointing down with the pipe pointing into the jar. When you release the aerosol gas, there will be a lot of propellent gas that is expelled. The diethyl ether will condense very quickly on the pipe and will begin to drip down into the jar. When the entire can is empty wait a few seconds for the gas to clear. You now have a very high content diethyl ether solution. Now to purify this ether you want to add about an equel volume of water, cap the jar, and shake vigirously. Let stand for a few minutes and now there should be two clear layers (which is very hard to see the line between the two). Your pure diethyl ether is the top layer and the bottom is the water with any impurities.

Be very highly careful with ether as it is very very volatile. Its boiling point is 36C so dont heat the bitch unless you can acurately increase the temp.

(Cite withheld)

[S7@1T3D]

Originally Posted by S7@1T3D

Some websites and experience reports mention a "water extraction" procedure that involves shaking a mixture of distilled water and starter fluid. This method supposedly "separates" the diethyl ether from "impurities" (referring to the petroleum distillates). The technique then describes pouring off or suctioning off particular layers of the resulting mix to get purer ether for inhalation.

The so-called "water extraction" method is simplistic and ineffective, since petroleum distillates and water are not miscible (petroleum distillates do not dissolve in water), and the distillates stay mixed with the ether, because of their common chemical nature. In fact, if the components in the water-insoluble fraction were to separate, which is highly unlikely, the density of ether would put it at the bottom, closest to the water, at the water:non-polar interface, making it very difficult to isolate. Because ether is slightly soluble in distilled water,3 the volume of the ether in the water-insoluble fraction may actually be reduced by repeated shaking and separating.

The Entheogen Review looked at this issue and reported the same thing: "Ether is slightly soluble in distilled water and heptane is insoluble. Hence, if one were to try to clean up starting fluid via repeatedly shaking with distilled H2O and then separating the layers, you not only don't end up with very good ET2O, but you are actually reducing the amount of ether that you have."5

People reporting the inhalation of "ether from starter fluid" by "water extraction" are not successfully extracting ether: they are huffing a mixture of ether and petroleum distillates.

Ask Erowid : ID 3114 : Can you extract ether from starter fluid?

God DAMN todays not going to be good.



Read the above. WATER will not work. Ether is a little soluble in water where as the other petroleum additives are not soluble in water.
Oh and it says to use Distilled water.


Yes i am arsehole today. Wanna know why read the GRT.general random thread.

[quizsalt]

thanks headcase thats what i was looking for.

[S7@1T3D]

I wouldn't Use PVC seeing as most plastics have some sort of reaction with petroleum products.
But thats just me being concerned for health.

[quizsalt]

i was thinking of using a copper pipe?

[willi-wurm]

ok. breakthrough.


i went to france on holiday with my parents. and they sell 100% pure ether "for dermatologic purposes, and to be added to alcoholic beverages" so good is my french. huffed it. typical ammoniac smell. 3€ for 100ml. noot bad, not bad. for all the non believers, i got pics [:

[spunand burnt]

mix ethyl ether in 2 liter bottle with distilled water shake vigoursly diethyl ether will seperate ether will be at the bottom

[S7@1T3D]

Originally Posted by spunand burnt

mix ethyl ether in 2 liter bottle with distilled water shake vigoursly diethyl ether will seperate ether will be at the bottom

Originally Posted by S7@1T3D

Is it possible to extract ether from starter fluid using simply water? How else can you extract ether from starter fluid?
A: In short, not really. The only way to effectively separate petroleum distillates from diethyl ether in starter fluid is by fractional distillation. This requires appropriate equipment and training in relevant lab procedures, can be EXTREMELY dangerous, and is outside of the skillset of most people (see warning below).

First, it is important to distinguish between ether (the specific chemical diethyl ether with the molecular formula C4H10O) and petroleum ether, a name for a mixture of hydrocarbons with no specific chemical identity. When used for inhalation, the term "ether" is usually assumed to mean the specific chemical diethyl ether, used as an anaesthetic in the early 20th century, although there is confusion among experimental individuals, some of whom buy products labeled as containing petroleum ether.

"Starter fluid" (or "starting fluid") is a generic term referring to a mixture of combustible volatile solvents, commonly "engine starter fluid" for automotive or other engine uses. While engine starter fluid includes 20-60% diethyl ether, depending on grade, it also contains petroleum distillates such as hexane and heptane.1 Many charcoal lighter fluids - sometimes also referred to as "starter fluid" - are composed almost entirely of petroleum distillates and contain no ether at all.2

Some websites and experience reports mention a "water extraction" procedure that involves shaking a mixture of distilled water and starter fluid. This method supposedly "separates" the diethyl ether from "impurities" (referring to the petroleum distillates). The technique then describes pouring off or suctioning off particular layers of the resulting mix to get purer ether for inhalation.

The so-called "water extraction" method is simplistic and ineffective, since petroleum distillates and water are not miscible (petroleum distillates do not dissolve in water), and the distillates stay mixed with the ether, because of their common chemical nature. In fact, if the components in the water-insoluble fraction were to separate, which is highly unlikely, the density of ether would put it at the bottom, closest to the water, at the water:non-polar interface, making it very difficult to isolate. Because ether is slightly soluble in distilled water,3 the volume of the ether in the water-insoluble fraction may actually be reduced by repeated shaking and separating.

The Entheogen Review looked at this issue and reported the same thing: "Ether is slightly soluble in distilled water and heptane is insoluble. Hence, if one were to try to clean up starting fluid via repeatedly shaking with distilled H2O and then separating the layers, you not only don't end up with very good ET2O, but you are actually reducing the amount of ether that you have."5

People reporting the inhalation of "ether from starter fluid" by "water extraction" are not successfully extracting ether: they are huffing a mixture of ether and petroleum distillates.

While diethyl ether at moderate doses mixed with proper amounts of oxygen seems to be less toxic than some more modern anaesthetics,5 inhalation of some of the volatile hydrocarbon gases in starter fluid have been shown to lead to nerve and organ damage.6

Warning #
It is extremely dangerous to attempt ether distillation without training and proper equipment. Ether can form very dangerously unstable, explosive peroxides when concentrated by distillation. Ether by itself is quite volatile and can ignite if an improper distillation column is used.

Ask Erowid : ID 3114 : Can you extract ether from starter fluid?

God damned did you read the thread?