*General Ecstacy Discussion*

[Chron]

Who does Ecstacy? I love it but try not to do it to much cuz its bad for you.

[Joshy]

2nd drug I ever tried, I enjoy it but I've found that I need more and more every time to have a full effect, I find also that I get very tired on it and I don't understand how people can go to clubs and stay up till like 5, if i start at say say 7p.m im practically asleep by midnight

[-inefficiency-]

This site confuses me.
Does the substance list mean it in mg or parts or what?

[icecool]

It is the ratio given of which the pill consists of.
And it is written as ecstacy not extacy...or you should write XTC.
Anyway it isn't that important.
XTC I've tried it before and it is more fun then amphetamine but also the hang-over is way more worse...

[-inefficiency-]

OK, so if it reads:

1 MDMA

Then it is pure MDMA

However, if it says:

1 MDMA

2 Caffeine

then it is 1 part MDMA to 2 parts caffeine....

[cheese]

MDMA doses should be viewed as following
If your unexperienced take 100 mg er dose
If you have grown a certain tolerance take 200 mg a time.
Doses do vary considering quality and personal resistance.

[Mr Mushrooms]

As a general rule I try to steer clear of anything that isn't organic. Weed/Shrooms enhance your existing reality but MDMA creates a false one that fades away and leaves you confused and upset when you return to normal. It's not a drug I'm keen to do again, I can't deny I enjoyed my experiences but the aftermath just wasn't worth it- it's like being taken to heaven only to be thrown violently back down to Earth.

My advice to X heads would be to consider very careful moderation- be responsible and accept the subsquent consquences of your actions. The real danger that ectasy takers face is taking more pills to counteract the depression. Regulate yourself and respect your mind.

[narnia70]

I love xtc. I used to do it alot. When you do it too often it takes more and more and the effect isn't as grand. Moderation, as with all things, is the key.

[discoboi]

pills are the shit.
first timers do half because even people who are highly sensitive/have an allergic reaction would be very unlightly to overdorse from this amount. wait for about an hour then do the other half.

or sniff a quater pill......

choice is yours
i personally try not to do more than four in a night.
thats my limit. any more would long term fuck me up.

[icecool]

MDMA doses:

Threshold: 30mg
common for small or sensetive people: 50-75mg
common for most people: 75-125mg
common for large or unsensetive people: 125-175mg
required by few(side effects increase): 200+ mg

[Lowman]

Originally Posted by icecool

MDMA doses:

Threshold: 30mg
common for small or sensetive people: 50-75mg
common for most people: 75-125mg
common for large or unsensetive people: 125-175mg
required by few(side effects increase): 200+ mg

Unfortunatly pills do not come in a "pure" powder form. So mg dose guides are not good.

Ecstasy in the majority of cases is consumed in the form of a pill. They very in size, shape and type. Pills are seperate by their presses i.e. what the logo is. However you cannot always trust the logo so your best bet is to get a Pill Tester kit. www.dancesafe.org and also check your pills www.pillreports.com .

So you cant guess on how many mg of MDMA, MDA. MDxA etc are in your pill. So when dosing it is preferred for first time to dose quarters or halves. it can take up to an 1.5hr for a pill to take efffect so you can wait it out and not eat the other half because nothing is happing in 15minutes.

As people have said the Ecstasy come down can hurt for the first time. Its know as being scattered. You can combat this with pre-loading and lost-loading techniques, taking vitiamans and in particular magnisium and 5-htp.

Stay Safe

[Mr Mushrooms]

** Topic changed to "General Ecstasy Discussion" to avoid similar threads. Keep all general comments about this drug here. **

Mr Mushrooms

[Ziggy]

I always take some vitamines in the morining one tablet with all vitamines and one with extra vitmanine c. Also you need vitamine B (along with other things) for your serotonine level so I drink alot of redbulls. Omega 3 pills (they are a natural way to increase your serotonine level) do help to but its kindoff a fuss because you have to take em every morning. They do help but I gave up on them because I always forgot to take them. One more thing I also keep in my wallet is "active coal".(this is a rude translation from dutch I don't know what its called in english). Its somekind off detox for people that took to much drugs (pills,mushrooms, just about anything).
Taking all these things doesn't preform miracles but it does make your dayafter remarkly better. I used to take pills and mdma every weekend and sometimes during the week and I must say it helped me out alot. It all seems alot to remember but it makes taking drugs alot better when you wake up

[Joshy]

what tips do people have for keeping myself awake? theres a gig coming up soon havnt done pills in about 6 months and i really wna do them but dnt wnat to fall asleep

[tactical_err0r]

Originally Posted by Joshy

what tips do people have for keeping myself awake?

Meth. It's much better than Ecstasy, and it'll keep you tweaked all night.

[discoboi]

can anybody tell me about mdma powder? i mean i know what it is but hearing what other people thaught about it would be great.

[icecool]

What do you want to know about it.
It is just a white powder.
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine.hydrochloride =P

[discoboi]

wow, thats a mouthfull. i wanted to hear some experiences kinda know how powerfull it really is. it would help for me to know whats in store if i get a hold of some.

cheers

[icecool]

Well pills differ in amount of MDMA (active chemical in XTC).
That's the most important thing there are pills varying between 70-200mg per pill.
As a beginner it is not wise of course to take a 200mg pill.
You can't see on the outside how much is in it but you need a dealer of which you are able to trust him.
There are all kind of symbols on the pills and mainly just white.
They contain lactose or manitol as a binder (it's a sugar so they taste a bit sweet) then there is ofcourse the MDMA and some magnesium stearate.

[discoboi]

cheers icecool, but what the case is, is that my friend has a bit of pure mdma powder as apposed to normally just having pills and im getting some for the weekend. getting 1/2 gram, wondering how much to bomb, i hear sniffing it is like sniffing chopped up glass.. painfull.?

The main thing is that i have heard people say how different it is to taking your average pills and how fucking mind blowing it is.

thanks for any help.

[tactical_err0r]

Snorting MDMA is not a good idea. Also, in my expeience MDMA is an interesting drug, but nowhere near "fucking mind blowing."

[Joshy]

what drugs are mind blowing?

[Bongermann]

DiMethylTryptamine... Hehe.

[discoboi]

all good then, ill go a bit easy tho, mabey what i heard people speak about was cut with somthing else, its quite a hard substance to get hold of around hear so there is not such a choice for where it comes from..

ill be wary.

[tactical_err0r]

DXM is mind-blowing.

[icecool]

Anyone tried MDA and MDMA and can tell me what the differences are?
MDA is also called eva and MDMA adam.

[Syrus]

Originally Posted by icecool

Anyone tried MDA and MDMA and can tell me what the differences are?
MDA is also called eva and MDMA adam.

I cant remember the exact differences but they are verry similar. A quick search on erowid.org would prob answer your question.

[grimR]

I had mda pills about a year ago sold to me as e. These were unlike any e I have ever had. They were pressed as "rolling stones," color red, and abnormally large. I bought a ten pack and proceded to eat one. After 15 min and no warm roll feeling I proceded to eat 2, then 3. The setting was sitting in a friend's greenhouse around many plants of all sizes. As I talked to my friend something strange happened. The plants started taking on different forms. My friends head (I will call K) was morphing too the most drastic open eye hallucinations I have ever experienced on anything. The friend known as K turned from blue to green to yellow all the while plants reaching from all around me growing, swaying. This was the most visually intense experience of my life along with lsd25, though the visuals were much more "real." By real I mean the experience was not so much dreamlike as in acid/shroom trips. Overall I enjoyed the experience but it did not bring about the warmness/eye wiggles of past confirmed e.

[headcase]

Originally Posted by tactical_err0r

Snorting MDMA is not a good idea. Also, in my expeience MDMA is an interesting drug, but nowhere near "fucking mind blowing."

MDMA isn't a pschyedelic, while DXM, shrooms and LSD are.

I tried X for the first time last Saturday. We had some trouble getting them so I didn't drop till about 3.30am. There were 6 of us there, and it was 2 people's first time (me and a friend). We were all good friends there, trusted each other and the 1 guy there who wasn't buzzing was still a experienced user so we didn't need to be self-conscious or anything.

So we all dropped a pill, some others double dropped and we started a timer. I remember the guy not dropping laughed me and the other first timer and said "You'll be in eachothers arms by the end of the night". I'll get back to that.

An hour and a half later the other first timer's lips were going mad and he was looking pretty happy with himself. I had felt tingly once or twice but came back down, and after the big build up felt pretty let down so dropped another with the rest of the lads who were getting there too.

About then we went into another room were the guy who's house we were at had some good music. He put on a live set of John Digweed, just before a mix into Xpander. I haven't heard the mix sober but right then it was fucking unreal, and pretty much got me up.

After that it was back into the main room. The other first timer and just gotten a head massage and wanted me to try it, so it was me, him and another guy in the middle massaging both her heads at once, which felt fantastic. A few minutes later though he had to leave so it was just me and the other first timer sitting on the couch having a mutual head massage. The only experience I can compare it with is perfect sex, and that doesn't do that head massage justice.

The rest of the night isn't as clear in my head but I'll run through the highlights.

Back-breakers, and any other user will tell you, are unreal. I'll presume you all know what it is.

The sober guy there also just happened to be unreal at them, so he was pretty busy all night. A back-breaker to a good tune is unreal, but then I had the revelation to give a back breaker to White Rabbit. Because the song starts slowly and builds to a climax, it totally flows with the back breaker. It took us ages to perfect it but it was worth it. We found it easier for a third person to hold a set of headphones to the listeners ears. This lets everyone around talk their way through it without ruining the atmosphere for the person getting the breaker. If I'm holding the head phones and the iPod (which we were using) I can inform the back breaker how long is left in the song, so we get the timing perfect. Try it next time, and think of me.

When the sun came up (cause we dropped so late) we went for a random stroll around the nearby fields. We saw some amazing cabbages, and then got to what can only be described as a perfect field for X. It had big shoulder high weeds with vivid yellow blossom that we could walk around running our hands through, until we reached the dead centre where the was an inexplicable, giant purple plant, which totally blew our minds. We spent a long time in that field.

After that it was come down time. I came down pretty quickly but had a long after glow. The others took some Rohibnol (sedative) with their last drop of X (I had three X pills throughout the night), which apparently makes you trip balls. I can attest to seeing one guy try to build a joint with the used Rohibnol packaging and try to take a sip from his shoe. I decided to hold onto the Rohibnol till the other first timer, who I had spent most of the night with, came down (he was still buzzing off his face).

When he had had enough we took half one each (the others had been taken cause we waited so long), slept a bit, and went home. The next 18 hours were spent in bed, and I felt crap the next day. Had a good sleep last night, and now I'm fine.

It was probably one of the best nights of my life, but cause of the shitty come down, blue days, and cut up cheeks and tongue I'll probably hold off till the next special occasion.

[DeuceOmen]

SWIM recently tried MDMA. He popped a triple stack blue dolphin. The pill image doesn't really matter becuase who ever makes it can make it look the same. One blue dlophin can blow your mind, and another can be caffine.

The one he had though was amazing. He chewed it out, it tasted like shit. Then he proceded to drink 3 glasses of orange juice (this makes you roll twice as hard). He then hung out at the mall with his friends and some girls who were all rolling too. Touch felt amazing. Even if someone were to punch him he would feel a warm sensation all throughout his body.

Some people tell you to never have sex on xtc. They say if you do you will be bored with normal sex forever more. SWIM didn't see how you could do this as it was almost impossible to maintain an errection when on the MDMA. It was one of the best experience of his life though. He was happy as could be everything felt great.

One final note, don't go swimming alone on X. If you do you might end up liek my friend. He went under water and wouldn't come up cuz it felt so good. eventually my friend jumped it and pulled him up. He fought all the way up and was pissed when he came up becuase he was enjoying it, he didn't realize until later that his friend was just saving his life.

Also drink water. You will dehydrate. You can die if you don't drink water. SWIM didn't notice that fact that he was dehydrated until someone gave him water. THen he realized jsut how dry his throat was. Some Fiji water and friends and X is the key to an amazing night. Just dont do it everyday that shit can drain the happyness outta your brain if you do it too much. I use it only for special occasions.

Hope this helps.