How to make Crank/Meth Aka shake n bake

[deathworm]

Originally Posted by spunand burnt

how to make ice with brake fluid chlorine tablets muratic acid aluminum napftha and methyl alcohol

I know someone who tryed this same method and it did not work ! The fist step that was said is crush a tab into a pyrex dish and cover with the break fluid . Its bs cuz when you add the fluid it takes a min or so and the reaction will start . the reaction is so violent that it flames up big time ! But it could have been the tabs to but they didnt chance it again and thats as far as they got with it!

[deathworm]

I have heard that that eph. can be pulled out of a type of salt block for either cows or horses. It suppose to be a medicated block but I havent found it yet ! I have been told the method of exstract but that dont do me any good without the extractee LOL!!!

[devilduster1972]

Originally Posted by hog

I haven't seen any formula nor procedure for single container cooking. Shake & Bake...what is it really?

thank you. Don't flame me because I am new; i'm sensitive about that shit.

would like to see a step by step procedure of this synth.cause swim got ahold of some recently and swim would say it was better than the other shit going around.

[funinaustinnow]

BadAss

Seen your comments on other forums. Seems like you know a lot about SNB

Care to tell us more????

[Misanthropy]

Jesus, the way the moderation on this board erases my posts, you'd almost think they keep an actual interest in maintaining status quo ignorance around here....

"Gup Chuck" ???? wtf?

Originally Posted by deathworm

I know someone who tryed this same method and it did not work ! The fist step that was said is crush a tab into a pyrex dish and cover with the break fluid . Its bs cuz when you add the fluid it takes a min or so and the reaction will start . the reaction is so violent that it flames up big time ! But it could have been the tabs to but they didnt chance it again and thats as far as they got with it!

LMFAO!!!

Didn't work?!?! OH NOZ!! D'ya'think???? Hmmm, lesse here, caustic halogens & very non polar compounds... Yanno what? I think that might even be a LISTED INCOMPATIBILITY!! Hmmmm...


This is called the Birch Reduction. It's not that difficult to do so why not follow the actual directions for such a procedure instead of trying to recreate the wheel using this stupid shit above?

This reaction has been optimized & repeated countless times over the years, care to see how this is really done?

Birch reduction of Pseudoephedrine to Methamphetamine

The Complete Birch by Mister_Clean

The Birch Reaction: Methamphetamine from (pseudo)ephedrine

Notes on Birch-like Reductions

How to Deconstruct Lithium Batteries - [www.rhodium.ws]

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodiu...n.kinetics.pdf

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodiu...inhibition.pdf

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodiu...ion.patent.pdf

Please not the "...chemistry/" directory of that site.... Peruse, read, be amazed at the quality of information there as opposed to here... LEARN. Don't follow some ^^^ dipstick's guide to "shake n bake" meth for maybe a gram of shit product at relatively huge losses & expenses. Your gram of joke product above will never be worth anything due to the above factors.

When manufacturing scheduled compounds, often the sentence is measured in decades of life in prison. Why fuck around? Seriously. The more time you spend with your shit out, fucking off, even is silly ways like those listed above, is time you could be getting busted.

Do the shit correctly if you're going to do it & stop fucking around. It's your ass.

[Misanthropy]

Delete this one please.

[Marvelous Magil]

The Nazi Method
The so called Nazi meth recipe for crank is talking about that during the end of WWII the Nazis had a hard time getting their meth made so they came up with a recipe to make it in the field. Since it basically works the same as the Red White and Blue method which is ironic! Its also called the Birch reduction method. Im not going to show this whole method but well take a look at the ingredients that are different in this method and they are:

- Red Phosphorous
- Iodine
- Anhydrous Ammonia
- Lithium

This methods fast but Im not going into the process so look at the other recipe if you actually are stupid enough to want to know how it works but remember its absolutely illegal to even get the ingredients so i say stay the hell away from all of it juts read and KNOW!
Red Phosphorous:

Phosphorous comes from a Greek name for the "morning star" because white phosphorous glows like Venus up in the sky. You never find phosphorous red or white all by itself in nature because they get it out of rocks. White phosphorous glows when it gets hit by oxygen and that's where the Greek name comes from. Phosphorous can also be red or white or black but those are all different kinds.

We're going to cover both red and white phosphorous here and I'll say PS when I mean phosphorous of both kinds or RP for red phosphorous or WP for white phosphorous when I mean only one or the other. You can get RP in two ways by heating WP to 482 degrees or by just letting sunlight hit it. You probably already understand that the main thing about PS is that it glows. Since we get PS from different rocks around the world that means that we will eventually run out of it and depending who you ask that will happen in 300 years or as soon as 50 years from this year which is 2008. This is too bad because they use PS in fertilizers since plants need it to grow the right way.

You can find PS in the human body and thats mainly in our bones and teeth but it also is in our DNA and helps cells to work right. We pass PS from our bodies whenever we pee. If we dont get enough of PS then it messes with our blood, muscles and nervous systems. In fact bad diets or not eating enough in general will lead to not having enough PS. Thats pretty ironic because if you think about it that is what happens to people tweeking they eat bad food or no food at all and their bones and teeth go bad. Yet the meth itself was made using PS!!! Chemistry is a bitch I guess huh?

The German guy who discovered PS found it in and your gonna love this IN HIS URINE! Yep and he noticed that it glowed so of course thered be a ton of uses for stuff that glows. Back in the old days they used WP for matches but there were problems with it. Because WP is real toxic it lead to a whole lot of poisoning on top of suicides and even murder as people went crazy. Theres even a story about a woman trying to use WP to poison her husband but he caught her because the soup she made glowed! Then they figured out that WP was just too toxic to make matches out of because it gave people a condition that rotted their jaw bones because they spent so much time breathing the fumes in the factory. Thats what lead to the switchover to RP for matches and today that is where most meth cooks get the RP they use when they make tweek. You dont get it from the head of the match like so many idiots seem to think you get it from the striking pad where you rub the match to light it! In order to get enough of the stuff they go through a whole lot of match books too.

Another big use for PS came around once countries got industrialized. They started using PS in smoke screens and incindiary weapons which are weapons that cause fires. Not only did they use PS to make tracer bullets which are bullets you can see so you know what your shooting at but they used it to make things that would burn longer. In World War 2 while Germany was banging the hell out of England the Brits used molotov cocktails with PS and benzene in them against the Nazis. The reason being that burning PS is hard as hell to put out once it starts burning and it can cause terrible burns if it touches human skin so painful in fact that people who got it splashed on themselves have been known to commit suicide because it hurts so bad. Just another common ingredient in your average meth lab that they use to cook the crank with.

You might want to know that even though RP is not as dangerous as WP it can turn into WP under different conditions. Its still incredibly poisonous because PS on the whole is one of the most toxic substinces on the planet. If you eat PS you can also end up with whats called Smoking Stool Syndrome and you dont even want to know what all goes along with THAT crazyness. The military uses PS in all sorts of ways from making a lethal nerve gas to making NAPALM. When you get WP on you they say that burn ointments can make it WORSE and even cause the WP to go into your blood stream and poison you fatally. So just in case certain losers are not totally CRYSTAL clear on this one, PS is extremely POISONUS and FLAMMABLE! That gives you a nice two ways of dying if you try making meth right there so you can have a real exciting suicide by cooking crank i guess.

Other than methamphetamines both street and pharmacetuical grades PS is used for farming fertilizers just like MANURE is. It also goes into water treatment, glass for sodium lamps, flame retardants, pesticides, steel, bone china, laundry detergents, baking powder, caps for cap guns, sodas we drink, certain electronics, toothpaste and of course BOMBS.

The RP is used to break down iodine into hydroiodic acid that meth cooks use as a reagent to turn ephedrine or pseudoephedrine into methamphetamine. Since the feds know all about that there are laws on the books since 2001 that make it so those who work with WP or RP have a whole bunch of regulations on them to make sure they arent making bulk sales of the stuff to people who then go and make tweek. So that means its real tough to get a supply of this stuff and owning any real amount of it is liable to send you directly to jail do not pass GO.

Iodine:

Iodine does not exist by itself in nature it is all ways attached to other chemical elements. That means you're not going to find it you have to make it by breaking it off from other chemicals. It does exist in seawater and also in every animal on earth but only in tiny amounts and is actually required in living things.

Some French guy discovered iodine because his family made saltpeter for gunpowder and to do that they had to take seaweed and burn it. Then the left over crap got acid poured on it to destroy it but this guy used too much acid one time and a cloud of purple smoke came up and then formed crystal once it got cooled down. That is because idoine is purple in color not blue like the name of the crank recipe. They just call it blue because it red white and blue makes for a better name than red white and purple.

Your body actually needs a certain amount of iodine to be healthy so if you dont eat seafoods they say you have to add it to the diet. Without the iodine in your food you can get side affects like fatige, weight gain, depression and your mind will slow down. If pregnant women dont get enough of it the kids can be born retarded too which is why they put it into table salt.

Also the thyroid uses iodine but radioactive iodine is bad. DUH! In places where theres nuclear facilities they sometimes give out iodine pills and they do this during nuclear disasters also. The radioactive iodine in real tiny amounts is used in medical fields where they use it to trace things happening inside a human body like how the kidneys are working. The element iodine by itself is fatal to all living things including humans and the fatal dose for a human is 2 or 3 grams. For stable iodine if it touches your skin you get lesions which are bad sores and it can also destroy your eyes. Even better if iodine is mixed with ammonia it becomes unstable and can BLOW UP big time!

Other than meth cooking iodine is used in pharmaceutical drugs which means real medicine, antiseptics for killing germs, color dyes, halogen lights and lightbulbs, purifying water, xrays and photography processes.

Of course, the DEA or Drug Enforcement Agency which deals with drugs in the US knows that iodine goes into methamphetamines so they investigate anyone who buys alot of iodine in any form including iodoform, ethyl iodide, ionic iodides or anything else with iodine. So that's one way to get your ass in a sling but they also can give you a fine or even prison if they catch you selling iodine without paying attention to who is buying it because that is pretty much helping the cook make the crank in their eyes.

Ususally people buying iodine say that they need it for their horse because thats supposed to be a believble excuse. You will want to wear a cowboy hat and jeans to make it more believable and remember this: COWBOYS DONT WEAR PUMAS!

Pay especial attention to the fact that I told you iodine in mass quantity is a DEADLY POISON to human beings and that they use it to make meth. Got it? Good.

[Marvelous Magil]

Lithium:
Lithium is a metal and its used in a whole bunch of things from explosives to batteries but most crank makers get their lithium out of batteries. Since its a corrosive metal that means you dont want it touching your skin because it will burn you. Thats why if you ever opened a battery you may have got burned pretty bad. You do not want to breathe lithium because it can mess up your airways and also build up in the lungs. Its not a stable chemical and if its exposed to the moisture in the air itll start messing up. While its not typical they can explode. Basically they use this stuff along with the anyhdrous ammonia to cause a chemical reaction reduces the ephedrine and pseudoephedrine into methamphetamine.
Not a lot to say about lithium except that in some places the sale of lithium batteries is getting limited to try and stop crank cooks. Probably dont want to be seen buyingup a ton of lithium batteries unless you got a hat with a propellar on it and are a real nerd!

[Marvelous Magil]

Originally Posted by deathworm

I know someone who tryed this same method and it did not work ! The fist step that was said is crush a tab into a pyrex dish and cover with the break fluid . Its bs cuz when you add the fluid it takes a min or so and the reaction will start . the reaction is so violent that it flames up big time ! But it could have been the tabs to but they didnt chance it again and thats as far as they got with it!

It sounds like the most ignorant, pathetic method i've ever heard. fuckin smurfs.

[Misanthropy]

Originally Posted by Marvelous Magil

The Nazi Method
The so called Nazi meth recipe for crank is talking about that during the end of WWII the Nazis had a hard time getting their meth made so they came up with a recipe to make it in the field. Since it basically works the same as the Red White and Blue method which is ironic! Its also called the Birch reduction method. Im not going to show this whole method but well take a look at the ingredients that are different in this method and they are:

- Red Phosphorous
- Iodine
- Anhydrous Ammonia
- Lithium

This methods fast but Im not going into the process so look at the other recipe if you actually are stupid enough to want to know how it works but remember its absolutely illegal to even get the ingredients so i say stay the hell away from all of it juts read and KNOW!

What. The. Fuck?

You've got hydriiotic acid reductive amination & the Birch reduction mixed together.

You don't know WTF you're talking about. Goddamn! Thanks for all the garbage!

Look, people... Assuming you've got enough intellect & wits to extract water from an ice cube, this is everything you need to know:
Rhodium: Drug Chemistry Archive

[ricos777]

YOu talk like the birch method #2 from clandestine notebook works.However the chemists at Drugs-forum say it will not work.Do you know of someone who actually used the synth?

thanks,ricos

[shredman]

So many ways, what is the easyiest? I am new to "making" it and would like to try!

I hear alot about shake and bake....anygood?
let me know
Shred


Cool site BTW

[ricos777]

Badass and Delirium both say the birch method #2 from clandestine notebook is correct synthesis,however other chemists on drugs forum so its not.Who is right?This is the closest to the one pot method as possible.I have the whole hive and rhodium database but its so vast i have no idea where to look me being a newbie non-chemist

[jimbolasso]

this is supposed to be the "shake n bake" popular method of making meth . it seems like this is for real i just need to make sure

can u just reply with a yes or no regarding the authenticity of this??? sorry if im botherin but i found this somewhere i am not the author of this
i just want to find out of this is legit?

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**WARNING**
Combining these chemicals can result in fire, explosion, injury, death, or arrest. I do NOT use illicit narcotics, nor do I condone the use of illicit

narcotics. This post is for informational purposes only. I take no responsibility for anyone who misuses this information and blows themself up, burns down a

structure, or gets arrested. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.

****DO NOT DO THIS INDOORS****

Now, on with the show.

You will need:

Hardware

2 2-liter bottles (Clean & dry, with lid)
1 1-liter bottle (Clean & dry, with lid)
1 20oz bottle (Clean & dry, with lid)
Approx 18" aquarium tubing
Needle-nosed pliers
Small pipecutter (Or snips)
Measuring cups (1/3 and 1 cup size)
Funnel
Small tupperware container with lid
Baggies
Utility knife or razorblade
Coffee filters

Ingredients

1. 1/3 cup Ammonium Nitrate (Get by cutting open cold packs. It's the little white balls. Be careful what you buy, some cold packs are ammonium nitrate-free.

Other materials can be used, but we're going to do it this way.)

2. 1/2 cup 100% Lye (aka Sodium Hydroxide. Available at hardware stores in the drain cleaner section. - Drano Crystals, or any other powdered lye works)

3. 3 cups Coleman Camp Fuel (Engine starting fluid [diethyl ether], or VM&P naphtha can also be used)

4. 3x Lithium strips (Get by cutting open Energizer AA Lithium batteries - This YOUTUBE tutorial video shows EXACTLY how to get your Lithium strips)
YouTube - Get Lithium Metal From an Energizer Battery


5. 100ml NP solvent of your choice (Xylene or MEK is recommended - easily found at your local hardware store in the paint section)

6. 3-4 boxes 120mg 12-hour pseudoephedrine HCl (PSE). The highest count you can find. (Sudafed or a generic equivalent. MAKE SURE PSE IS THE ONLY ACTIVE

INGREDIENT.)

7. about 1/3 cup iodized salt

8. 4 capfuls sulfuric acid (Available as liquid drain cleaner.) OR muriatic acid (Also sold at hardware stores)

9. Denatured alcohol or Isopropyl alcohol

10. 1/8 cup of distilled water (Poland Spring or any bottled water can also be used)

Prep

1. Take the 20oz lid and cut a hole in it big enough to fit the aquarium tubing. It should be snug.

2. Cut one of the 2-liters in half. Discard the top.

3. Crush the pills into a fine powder. Use a coffee grinder, blender, or if worse comes to worse, hand crush them with a pair of pliers or something. Put the

powder into a baggie. The beauty of "shake n bake" is you don't have to clean your pills to extract PSE. Just crush and toss in!

4. Measure out and crush the ammonium nitrate (optional). If it is dry enough, go ahead and crush it. Not important that you do this, though. It helps ensure

even cooking, but is not imperative. Put it in a baggie.

5. Measure out the lye. Be careful not to touch this stuff. It eats anything organic (YOU) and also reacts with metal. Put in a baggie.

6. Measure out the Coleman fuel or Naphtha. Put it into the 1-liter.

7. Cut open the batteries. You must do this quickly because lithium reacts with moisture in air and will become hot, possibly catching fire if it is very

humid outside. Use the pipecutter to cut the outer housing of the battery. Use the needle nosed pliers to peel down the housing to expose the strip. There

will be a black strip in between 2 pieces of paper. This is the one you want. BE CAREFUL. LITHIUM STRIPS MAKE A SPARK WHEN THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH METAL.

DO NOT TOUCH THE STRIP WITH YOUR BARE HANDS IF YOU CAN AVOID IT. DO NOT GET IT WET!!!!! Once you get the strip out of the battery, it can be stored in

denatured alcohol, and will no longer react with air as long as it is capped. Lithium strips burn VIOLENTLY when they come into contact with water. Be

CAREFUL!! Here is the how-to video again YouTube - Get Lithium Metal From an Energizer Battery


Go time

1. Pour the ammonium nitrate into the 2-liter bottle (the one you didnt cut in half).
2. Add pills. Shake up to mix them together.
3. Add your 100ml Xylene or MEK solvent


At this point, you will see the ingredients starting to react, it will produce bubbles in the bottom.

4. Add the lithium strips. Take them out of the denatured alcohol, tear them into smaller pieces, and add them to the mixture.
5. Add your lye MAKING SURE to cover your Lithium strips.
6. Add the 1/4 cup of water. The water kicks off the reaction, but YOU MUST GET THE CAP ON IMMEDIATELY AFTER ADDING THE WATER. Remember Lithium reacts

intensely with water and is potentially dangerous. The lithium-water reaction at normal temperatures is brisk but not violent, though the hydrogen produced

can ignite. Do not add the water if your Lithium has not been buried and is UNDER YOUR LYE.
7. Add the Coleman fuel or Naphtha to this mixture.

The mixture will be rolling now (it will look like it's boiling real hard). NOW THIS IS THE TRICKY AND MOST IMPORTANT PART: The reaction builds up necessary

pressure inside the bottle, don't worry - you will need to let this react WITH THE CAP ON for at least 2 minutes. Let the Lithium do it's thing for a full

120 seconds. Venting or releasing pressure within the first 2-3 minutes will greatly affect your final yield. After 2 or 3 minutes you will see the Lithium

starting to get smaller, shriveling up into small Bronze foil looking balls with holes throughout. This is when you MUST VENT by slightly unscrewing the cap

to release the gas.

***AFTER THE LITHIUM TURNS BRONZE MAKE SURE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE PRESSURE INSIDE THE BOTTLE! IT CAN EASILY BUILD UP QUICKLY AND EXPLODE IF NOT VENTED

PROPERLY!***

You can gently swirl (not shake!) the bottle side-to-side if you want, you don't have to. Swirling can only help the reaction.

Be careful! The gas coming out of the bottle is straight ammonia. Do not breathe it and keep it away from your eyes. AVOID KEEPING THE CAP OFF OR VENTING THE

BOTTLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

You may have to add more lye throughout the process to keep the mixture rolling. Once every 20 mins or so. You may not have to, though. If you do, add about

half of the amount as in the beginning, and do it quickly.

For at least 45 minutes keep venting and swirling the mixture until it stops rolling and you have hard whitish balls (called bones) in the bottom of the

bottle. This is a signal that the reaction is over. Let the contents react until you notice the whitish balls - sometimes will take 1-2 hours. Put a cotton

ball in the funnel hole and 2 coffee filters over and filter the liquid into the 2-liter (the one you cut in half). Dispose of the trash accordingly. Use

caution, the bottle and trash are noticeable waste items. Try to dispose of it in different locations. The trash can still be fingerprinted. USE YOUR HEAD.

Gassing the liquid

Now that the dangerous part is over, on to the DOPE!

All ready smelling success? wait and see.

****This is a smelly and violent process so you should do it outside if possible.****

**WARNING**
***HCl GAS IS NASTY STUFF AND WILL RUST ANYTHING IN SIGHT! Make sure your tubing is completely airtight because you do not want leaks!****

Take the 20oz bottle and put about 1/3 cup salt in it. Add 4 capfuls of sulfuric acid (or muriatic acid) and put on the lid you made with the aquarium

tubing. Make sure it's tight. This is your gassing gizmo. Put the end of the hose just under the surface of the liquid and squeeze the gas into it. You will

see the meth dropping or "snowing" to the bottom of the liquid. Such a beautiful sight. Pull out the hose and let the 20oz fill back up with gas again.

Repeat this until the meth stops dropping as much. Filter the powder out of the liquid. This process is known as a 'pull'. After the dope is filtered, you

can do up to 3 more pulls from the same liquid. Usually the second pull is the best (most product, highest quality). You will have to re-mix the salt and

sulfuric acid in the 20oz using fresh ingredients, because it won't last long. Make sure not to suck up any of the liquid into the 20oz, or you will have to

make a new one. The gas inside the 20oz is a bad little dude itself, so use a twist tie or a rubber band to keep the tube closed (fold it in half and tie

it).

That's it. Let the meth dry on the filters, scrape it off, and voila. You can even use the filters in drinks to get high. The highest the dinosaur's ever

been is off filters.

Note: Rinsing your meth with DRY ACETONE (dry your acetone by baking Epsom Salts at 400f for 4 hours, pour the baked epsom salts into your acetone container

and let sit overnight) If your meth burns leaving residue in your pipe and tastes nasty, a dual solvent recrystallization is highly recommended.





Ciao!

[Underground_Artist]

Originally Posted by purewhitepanda

This synthesis is a waste of time. Its missing a lot of (INGREDIENTS AND EQUIPMENT) and 3-6 boxes wouldn't make anything for anyone. Try more like 70-90 boxes. And flavoring has nothing to do with anything that leaves you with a lot of waste product (YOU CAN WASH THAT OFF). It's guaifenesin which is what will leave you with a lot of crap left over and will make you loose most of what you wanted to begin with (pseudo ephedrine). And you say don't guess but that's all your leaving someone to do after reading this.

!!! I WILL NOT BE HELP RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RETARTEDNESS.

Yes you didn't help and you didn't be responsible. Your a retard for giving bad information.

I have to agree with you this idiot did not give good info plus his thread didn't back up his title

[just4funn]

Originally Posted by Underground_Artist

I have to agree with you this idiot did not give good info plus his thread didn't back up his title

3-6 boxes of 12hr equals 120 mg x 10 pills x 3 boxes= 3600mg x 6 boxes= 7200mg

divide that by a 1000 and u get a theoretical yield 0f 3.6 grams or
7.2 grams

shake method is for 1/4 oz or less

btw
70 boxes of regular will give u 50+ grams

all info is for academic or educational use only . nor other use is implied or intended.

[hog]

I t developed into two equal layers. One milky white, the top layer clear.

Do I gas this or do I want one or the other to gas?

Do I want the milky white on the bottom, or do I syphon off clear layer and gas that?

[hog]

swim got milky white layer o bottom, and clear blue layer at half way mark to top.

Which level is swims seed?

[hog]

under similar thread where swim concerning water drop and ph making burnt power and no crystal. Should not be hard to find hogs dream. Hog just started posting dreams here and nobody want to talk about hogs silly dream. Hog tried in dream to make go go. Hog was very successful in dream at getting past controversial danger part. Hog is close is dream but all hogs dreams end in blue liquid. Some with white bottom (like ms hog) & blue top (like hogs ballls). Hog want to dream good dream about go go but hog end up with fluid in dreams or sticky tar, Hog has dreamed of tarry messes (like hogs wife panties) and white and blue layers like hogs blue balls and white milk bottom.

May be hog dreaming bad dreams and don't now it. Hog hopes moderator or a friend willing to take a chance helping to dicusss hogs dreams will PM hog or comment on form about what hog dreaming wrong.

Hog tired of wet reams and want dry dream with happy ending not tarry mess.

[just4funn]

I think hog needs to take a few steps back and take some Ambien to clear his head to dream.
You need to understand what is happening in a chemical reaction. AN & NaOH +DH2O produce
ammonia gas.The gas saturates the solvent reacting with the metal to form Li bronze.The bronze
reacts to form lithium amide. After reaction is complete, evaporate all the ammonia then
filter the reactants. Then you can use dry Hcl gas.


Important Notes:

all chemicals must be anhydrous(dirty in dirty out)
a little extra ammonia during the reaction is better than not enough
all ammonia must be removed after reaction
proper filtering
dry Hcl gas
to much DH2O is you enemy(gotta have some though)


Research before diving in head first and taking people at their word. Chemistry is enjoyable
but dangerous if one does not know what is going on.

[hog]

Someone I know used acetone that was not dry to extract seed from pills. Someone I know mixed 135 pure ammonium nitrate, cap of lye, and 1/4 oz of water. That person shook a little then added wet seed that had not dried sufficiently after extraction using regular acetone . That same person added all lithium bits at once.

Two little shakes later and that person saw biggest fireball explode in hands and all over face. This persons was is his garage and happened to have a wet towel handy as was recommended by close friend. This person burnt his face and lucky he did not burn alive and have his his garage burn down as well.

This person, you might say, saw the light!!!!

[Misanthropy]

That person was a dipstic from the beginning for acting like a 5 year old with a chemistry set.

WHY? WHYWHYWHYWHY! Are you people so goddamn intent on using the Birch?!?!? WTF possesses you?

Can you seriously just not find iodine (you can make it from potassium iodide for Chrissake) and some fucking red phosphorus?!?!?!?

THIS IS NOT HARD TO DO PEOPLE.

Fuck my life...

[hog]

Originally Posted by just4funn

I think hog needs to take a few steps back and take some Ambien to clear his head to dream.
You need to understand what is happening in a chemical reaction. AN & NaOH +DH2O produce
ammonia gas.The gas saturates the solvent reacting with the metal to form Li bronze.The bronze
reacts to form lithium amide. After reaction is complete, evaporate all the ammonia then
filter the reactants. Then you can use dry Hcl gas.


Important Notes:

all chemicals must be anhydrous(dirty in dirty out)
a little extra ammonia during the reaction is better than not enough
all ammonia must be removed after reaction
proper filtering
dry Hcl gas
to much DH2O is you enemy(gotta have some though)


Research before diving in head first and taking people at their word. Chemistry is enjoyable
but dangerous if one does not know what is going on.

Swim flunked chemistry in high school. I'm sure your answer is intelligent and viable, It's just way above SWIMS pay grade. Swim understands words like muratic acid, lye, Ammonium nitrate, lithium, rock salt, and distilled water. Swim even knows what dry acetone is now and how to make it.

Come on...this is a drug forum not a doctorate in chemisrty education. Swim learned a lesson the hard way and was very lucky he's here to write this.

Bottom line swim doesn't want to get ripped off from street dealers, doesn't know any dealers, and likes to get high occasionally.

[Misanthropy]

No, no this is not a drug forum. This is a forum full of fucking imbiciles. Do not come here for drug education. If you want to know how to make meth, go to wetdreams.ws or psychonaut.com or something similar.

[DS21]

So anyone have a take on if this is legit or not????

Originally Posted by jimbolasso

this is supposed to be the "shake n bake" popular method of making meth . it seems like this is for real i just need to make sure

can u just reply with a yes or no regarding the authenticity of this??? sorry if im botherin but i found this somewhere i am not the author of this
i just want to find out of this is legit?

------------------------------------


**WARNING**
Combining these chemicals can result in fire, explosion, injury, death, or arrest. I do NOT use illicit narcotics, nor do I condone the use of illicit

narcotics. This post is for informational purposes only. I take no responsibility for anyone who misuses this information and blows themself up, burns down a

structure, or gets arrested. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.

****DO NOT DO THIS INDOORS****

Now, on with the show.

You will need:

Hardware

2 2-liter bottles (Clean & dry, with lid)
1 1-liter bottle (Clean & dry, with lid)
1 20oz bottle (Clean & dry, with lid)
Approx 18" aquarium tubing
Needle-nosed pliers
Small pipecutter (Or snips)
Measuring cups (1/3 and 1 cup size)
Funnel
Small tupperware container with lid
Baggies
Utility knife or razorblade
Coffee filters

Ingredients

1. 1/3 cup Ammonium Nitrate (Get by cutting open cold packs. It's the little white balls. Be careful what you buy, some cold packs are ammonium nitrate-free.

Other materials can be used, but we're going to do it this way.)

2. 1/2 cup 100% Lye (aka Sodium Hydroxide. Available at hardware stores in the drain cleaner section. - Drano Crystals, or any other powdered lye works)

3. 3 cups Coleman Camp Fuel (Engine starting fluid [diethyl ether], or VM&P naphtha can also be used)

4. 3x Lithium strips (Get by cutting open Energizer AA Lithium batteries - This YOUTUBE tutorial video shows EXACTLY how to get your Lithium strips)
YouTube - Get Lithium Metal From an Energizer Battery


5. 100ml NP solvent of your choice (Xylene or MEK is recommended - easily found at your local hardware store in the paint section)

6. 3-4 boxes 120mg 12-hour pseudoephedrine HCl (PSE). The highest count you can find. (Sudafed or a generic equivalent. MAKE SURE PSE IS THE ONLY ACTIVE

INGREDIENT.)

7. about 1/3 cup iodized salt

8. 4 capfuls sulfuric acid (Available as liquid drain cleaner.) OR muriatic acid (Also sold at hardware stores)

9. Denatured alcohol or Isopropyl alcohol

10. 1/8 cup of distilled water (Poland Spring or any bottled water can also be used)

Prep

1. Take the 20oz lid and cut a hole in it big enough to fit the aquarium tubing. It should be snug.

2. Cut one of the 2-liters in half. Discard the top.

3. Crush the pills into a fine powder. Use a coffee grinder, blender, or if worse comes to worse, hand crush them with a pair of pliers or something. Put the

powder into a baggie. The beauty of "shake n bake" is you don't have to clean your pills to extract PSE. Just crush and toss in!

4. Measure out and crush the ammonium nitrate (optional). If it is dry enough, go ahead and crush it. Not important that you do this, though. It helps ensure

even cooking, but is not imperative. Put it in a baggie.

5. Measure out the lye. Be careful not to touch this stuff. It eats anything organic (YOU) and also reacts with metal. Put in a baggie.

6. Measure out the Coleman fuel or Naphtha. Put it into the 1-liter.

7. Cut open the batteries. You must do this quickly because lithium reacts with moisture in air and will become hot, possibly catching fire if it is very

humid outside. Use the pipecutter to cut the outer housing of the battery. Use the needle nosed pliers to peel down the housing to expose the strip. There

will be a black strip in between 2 pieces of paper. This is the one you want. BE CAREFUL. LITHIUM STRIPS MAKE A SPARK WHEN THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH METAL.

DO NOT TOUCH THE STRIP WITH YOUR BARE HANDS IF YOU CAN AVOID IT. DO NOT GET IT WET!!!!! Once you get the strip out of the battery, it can be stored in

denatured alcohol, and will no longer react with air as long as it is capped. Lithium strips burn VIOLENTLY when they come into contact with water. Be

CAREFUL!! Here is the how-to video again YouTube - Get Lithium Metal From an Energizer Battery


Go time

1. Pour the ammonium nitrate into the 2-liter bottle (the one you didnt cut in half).
2. Add pills. Shake up to mix them together.
3. Add your 100ml Xylene or MEK solvent


At this point, you will see the ingredients starting to react, it will produce bubbles in the bottom.

4. Add the lithium strips. Take them out of the denatured alcohol, tear them into smaller pieces, and add them to the mixture.
5. Add your lye MAKING SURE to cover your Lithium strips.
6. Add the 1/4 cup of water. The water kicks off the reaction, but YOU MUST GET THE CAP ON IMMEDIATELY AFTER ADDING THE WATER. Remember Lithium reacts

intensely with water and is potentially dangerous. The lithium-water reaction at normal temperatures is brisk but not violent, though the hydrogen produced

can ignite. Do not add the water if your Lithium has not been buried and is UNDER YOUR LYE.
7. Add the Coleman fuel or Naphtha to this mixture.

The mixture will be rolling now (it will look like it's boiling real hard). NOW THIS IS THE TRICKY AND MOST IMPORTANT PART: The reaction builds up necessary

pressure inside the bottle, don't worry - you will need to let this react WITH THE CAP ON for at least 2 minutes. Let the Lithium do it's thing for a full

120 seconds. Venting or releasing pressure within the first 2-3 minutes will greatly affect your final yield. After 2 or 3 minutes you will see the Lithium

starting to get smaller, shriveling up into small Bronze foil looking balls with holes throughout. This is when you MUST VENT by slightly unscrewing the cap

to release the gas.

***AFTER THE LITHIUM TURNS BRONZE MAKE SURE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE PRESSURE INSIDE THE BOTTLE! IT CAN EASILY BUILD UP QUICKLY AND EXPLODE IF NOT VENTED

PROPERLY!***

You can gently swirl (not shake!) the bottle side-to-side if you want, you don't have to. Swirling can only help the reaction.

Be careful! The gas coming out of the bottle is straight ammonia. Do not breathe it and keep it away from your eyes. AVOID KEEPING THE CAP OFF OR VENTING THE

BOTTLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

You may have to add more lye throughout the process to keep the mixture rolling. Once every 20 mins or so. You may not have to, though. If you do, add about

half of the amount as in the beginning, and do it quickly.

For at least 45 minutes keep venting and swirling the mixture until it stops rolling and you have hard whitish balls (called bones) in the bottom of the

bottle. This is a signal that the reaction is over. Let the contents react until you notice the whitish balls - sometimes will take 1-2 hours. Put a cotton

ball in the funnel hole and 2 coffee filters over and filter the liquid into the 2-liter (the one you cut in half). Dispose of the trash accordingly. Use

caution, the bottle and trash are noticeable waste items. Try to dispose of it in different locations. The trash can still be fingerprinted. USE YOUR HEAD.

Gassing the liquid

Now that the dangerous part is over, on to the DOPE!

All ready smelling success? wait and see.

****This is a smelly and violent process so you should do it outside if possible.****

**WARNING**
***HCl GAS IS NASTY STUFF AND WILL RUST ANYTHING IN SIGHT! Make sure your tubing is completely airtight because you do not want leaks!****

Take the 20oz bottle and put about 1/3 cup salt in it. Add 4 capfuls of sulfuric acid (or muriatic acid) and put on the lid you made with the aquarium

tubing. Make sure it's tight. This is your gassing gizmo. Put the end of the hose just under the surface of the liquid and squeeze the gas into it. You will

see the meth dropping or "snowing" to the bottom of the liquid. Such a beautiful sight. Pull out the hose and let the 20oz fill back up with gas again.

Repeat this until the meth stops dropping as much. Filter the powder out of the liquid. This process is known as a 'pull'. After the dope is filtered, you

can do up to 3 more pulls from the same liquid. Usually the second pull is the best (most product, highest quality). You will have to re-mix the salt and

sulfuric acid in the 20oz using fresh ingredients, because it won't last long. Make sure not to suck up any of the liquid into the 20oz, or you will have to

make a new one. The gas inside the 20oz is a bad little dude itself, so use a twist tie or a rubber band to keep the tube closed (fold it in half and tie

it).

That's it. Let the meth dry on the filters, scrape it off, and voila. You can even use the filters in drinks to get high. The highest the dinosaur's ever

been is off filters.

Note: Rinsing your meth with DRY ACETONE (dry your acetone by baking Epsom Salts at 400f for 4 hours, pour the baked epsom salts into your acetone container

and let sit overnight) If your meth burns leaving residue in your pipe and tastes nasty, a dual solvent recrystallization is highly recommended.





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[interested]

ive read with interest

my thoughts are, all the people posting alledged methods none of you seem able to provide accurate measurements and quantitys in grams or ounzes, also when you list items like draino whats that its a us product, is it not possible when listing an ingredient like draino to also in brackets put the chemical symbol and quantity for the actual desired element

ie 1/2 cup 100% Lye (aka Sodium Hydroxide) if useing genuine Sodium Hydroxide then would 1/2 cup still be required and how big is a cup ?