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Originally Posted by spunone69  HCl is Hydrochloride (or salt form) pfed is pseudo ephedrine that has already been cleaned/washed and had all the buffers removed and RP is red phosphorus...if you don't understand these simple abbreviations, then it's probably not a good idea for you to be "cooking" anything!! I wouldn't even let you make toast at my house...ha ha ha I'm not trying to be mean, but if you don't have a good understanding of the chemicals and the reactions when you cook meth, you can make a number of crucial mistakes; you could blow yourself (and others) up...you could make a batch of poison...you could become violently ill from the fumes...etc BE CAREFUL!! |
I understand all those abbreviations its just how he words that makes it confusing to me I do understand thae process afther reading it over alot of times but what i don't get if afther you mix all that where do you get the pfed from later on he says to add equal amounts of Iodine and pfed, and a third as much RP
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Extraction of PFED
Ok, this method will deal with the Hcl salt of pfed, and a streamlined version of "the cure"! All pills are dumped into a large jar and double the volume of methanol poured on top! This is stirred vigorously and let to settle, in the fridge seems to speed it up! After top methanol layer has cleared it is carefully decanted off. This procedure is repeated 3 times. All methanol pulls are put together and reduced on a hotplate. As methanol gets down to the last little bit, it is taken off heat then a portion of acetone, twice your remaining liquid is dropped in. This forces the pfed crystals to crash out. Then remaining liquid is carefully evaporated off.
Now you have your crude/dirty pfed Hcl. Next we will be doing successive toluene washes So put your pfed crystals in a Pyrex (heat proof glass) Now add toluene to a safe level that can be lightly boiled on hotplate After about 5 mins boiling with stirring. Take off heat and let settle a minute. Now carefully pour off toluene into a filter to catch any remnants of pfed that may follow. Now if you get the toluene that has our contaminants in it and add some water You will see the crap crash from the toluene into the water This is the crap that came thru with the methanol pull!
So as we continue to do multiple toluene washes, we will continue to test the toluene after pouring it off, to see how we are progressing with the cleanup! When we have reached a point where no crap comes out of the toluene, with the addition of water, then we are ready to try acetone! Usually about 3 boils in toluene, but of course it depends how much you’re using! So, as before we will add a portion of acetone and boil lightly! Now when we pour off the acetone, we will add a tiny amount of water and some NaOH this is our final test, when you do this and no crap falls out of acetone you are ready!
This will be the cleanest pfed you have ever seen, guaranteed! AND, yields should be >90% if your careful! 95% is good.
Reaction
Smallest reaction to be attempted, especially by newbie’s, is 1oz of pfed! So that even taking into account sloppiness, lack of experience and losses along the way you should get some product!
Ratios of reagents are, 3:3:1 or 1:1:1/3 ie.E:I:RP aka,
equal amounts of Iodine and pfed, and a third as much RP! Compendia!
Ok first prepare yourself an ice bath! Yes ice cubes and water in a sink or bucket! Now, many will say you should add this first or that first! Well after much reading of different people’s methods, I say.... Chuck the whole shebang in together, while your flask is on ice, Lift and swirl ingredients together, while maintaining on ice! Put your condenser on top and start water running thru, from bottom to top! Now, the idea is to get the reaction going in the most controlled way possible. Now you want to let reagents react in the ice bath, if at all, Then move vessel from ice bath to room temp, If things look like they're going too fast, put back in ice bath, You want to keep the reaction going but only at a nice slow, controlled pace! This is also necessary to control vapor in the condenser! Thick and or discolored smoke is bad and plumes of smoke will escape from condenser As things progress at a nice slow pace, as things slow too much you can start applying heat! So prepare an oil bath and bring to about 50c, now if there is no more action in your vessel You can move it to the oil bath, and same as before, when things slow down, Adjust heat up, to say 100c then 150c for one hour, to make sure reaction has completed The whole time you should be watching to keep a nice reflux going, and not too much vapor is escaping from condenser!
Now remove from heat and disconnect condenser, Now add ice water to quench reaction, reason for ice water is to calm the reaction down when NaOH is added Now its up to you if you want to filter out RP or leave till the end I would leave it, it will be washed nicely by next process and be easier to filter! Now add lots of NaOH to bring reaction mix to positive 14PH you cannot over-basify as meth won't be destroyed, it’s a tough mother fucker!
Steam Distillation
Now you need to set up your glassware for steam distillation! So attach steam distillation sloping splash head to top hole of flask! Now attach plastic hose to steam inlet and other end, on release valve of pressure cooker that is full of water! Now attach condenser on end of splash head, and rig up some kind of prop for it to stay up! Now place a jar at the end of condenser to catch our distillate! Now you want to heat both the pressure cooker, and the reaction flask! Now sit back and get ready for one of the most beautiful sites and smells! The meth freebase that is sitting on the top of your aqueous layer in flask will vaporize and be carried across and be condensed in the condenser and trickle down into your jar It will sit atop a bottom layer of water! After the last of the oil has come across, change jars and leaves the setup to run for another hour Just to make sure you got it all! Any povidone from the pills will be stuck behind in the reaction vessel It has been noted that some polymer that may have been left from extraction, may follow the steam!
Crystallization
So, now we have a jar of water, with this sweet clear oil sitting on top! Now options are to add Hcl acid slowly with stirring until oil layer disappears and then evaporate the whole lot to get crystals! Or, as I found, you may have some polymer that has come over with the steam and is now sitting in the water layer, and it looks cloudy! So I don't want to evaporate all that, it will just concentrate the shit in there (plus its very time consuming evaporating water, plus you risk losing some meth as the water evaporates) So, I think you should just throw a little toluene into jar, and then separate! Now your absolutely pure meth freebase is in your toluene! Now you can either gas, for instant clean meth, or Add minimal DH2O or then acidify to PH7, shake, separate and evaporate water for crystals! Repeat this step if you do it this way, as some more may come in second go!
Now with this process from start to finish, you shouldn't need to re-crystallize As your product should be the cleanest shit anybody has ever seen anyway! But you may want to for the purpose of growing nice big crystals! In which case, add just enough hot methanols to dissolve all your meth and then place in freezer. The secret is the slower the evaporation, the bigger the crystals! So a nice slow room temp evaporate over several days might be fun!
Clarification PLEASE! 
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