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possible to make meth with pills containing: pseudo and methscopolamine nitrate
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:16 PM
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Question possible to make meth with pills containing: pseudo and methscopolamine nitrate

Swim has a bunch of AlleRx pills containing PE and methscopolamine nitrate... are they ok to use in a regular procedure to make meth or is there a required step to remove the methscopolamine, and how could it be removed?
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:06 PM
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In other words swim needs to extract the pseudo from the methscopolamine nitrate along with the other fillers in the pills... any advice? The methscopolamine nitrate chemical shorthand is : C17H21NO4.CH3NO3 , and is also known as scopolamine methyl nitrate or hyoscine methyl nitrate.
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Scopolomine, Hyoscyamine & Atropine are Tropane alkaloids, most notably from the nightshade family of plants. Definitely not things you want in the mix. However if you were wanting to isolate the atropine, convert to hyoscyamine & process to make a nifty little product called tropacocaine.... but that's another story..

I'm wondering this: Perhaps you could make an adduct with the substrate, say, a bisulfate, that is readily seperable from the (tropane)nitrate if it's not already. Some 'sperimentation is in order!

Otherwise, you might try solubility testing. Say, acetone washing the powdered product. Perhaps some recrystalizations if you've got enough to play with. Tropanes have a significantly different structure than phenethyl products like pseudoephedrine. Solubilities & other characteristics should be readily available online, perhaps even wiki if you look around.

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Old 11-13-2009, 10:27 PM
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Out of the birch reduction, or RXN methods, what method will produce the cleanest, most powerful meth?
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:11 AM
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Please don't crosspost... and "RXN" just stands for "reaction". The Birch reduction is a reaction too.

What we're talking about here is called, specifically, a reductive amination.
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