Explosives 101

[GuyFawks]

Originally Posted by headcase

Try dipping the gloves in acid and see what happens.

It's not safe to cpmpress AP in a CO2 cartridge because AP is an organic peroxide, which is sensitive around metal. Best use a plastic container, compress it while it's wet and don't be too rough.

98% sulphuric acid isn't too strong in itself, but the high concentration might raise the temperature of your mixture too much. High temperature can mean impure product. TATP, a more sensitive and less powerful explosive can result in an AP mix that gets too hot. I'd dilute it.

What ae you doing that needs more then 33% nitric acid?

How about Nitroglycerine, RDX, PETN and many others. More than 98% pure nitric acid is needed in a lot of high explosives.

[Shalshaska]

I'd say the only (common) nitrations that really *require* >95% are RDX and HMX, which should be 98-99. Most others could be done probably with 60%.

[Matze]

you can also make PETN by using 65% HNO3 and 95-99% H2SO4. I allways make it so and it works! and the systhesis is really simple, not like RDX or HMX.

[Shalshaska]

Might I ask where you got your PE? I have found its procurement quite impossible for individual buyers ever since Pyrotek went offline. This is why I have simply turned to the slightly less powerful, ETN.

[Matze]

I've obtained 1kg by my friend.

[headcase]

Originally Posted by GuyFawks

How about Nitroglycerine, RDX, PETN and many others. More than 98% pure nitric acid is needed in a lot of high explosives.

That comment was directed at a member asking about AP. I think it's safe to say he wasn't making any of those yet.

[YoungHypnotiq]

are there any realitivly safe and easy things to make? i want to start but dont know how

[Shalshaska]

Go find some rollcaps (the capgun caps on a long strand of paper) and roll them up. Give it a good whack with a hammer and bob's your uncle.

By then you might be ready for real explosives.

[ATSACIN]

Originally Posted by headcase

That comment was directed at a member asking about AP. I think it's safe to say he wasn't making any of those yet.

Well... I was also thinking about the future.

Originally Posted by YoungHypnotiq

are there any realitivly safe and easy things to make? i want to start but dont know how

A good thing is search books and files (is save and easy), then you can make BP (BlackPowder), AP (Acetone Peroxide)...

[YoungHypnotiq]

Originally Posted by Shalshaska

Go find some rollcaps (the capgun caps on a long strand of paper) and roll them up. Give it a good whack with a hammer and bob's your uncle.

By then you might be ready for real explosives.

be serious.

[Shalshaska]

I am serious. It's pretty fun, actually.

But you could make some fun little pyrotechnic mixtures like smoke powder, black powder or flash powder with fairly accessible oxidizers.

[YoungHypnotiq]

how would i find out how to ake them? google/

[Jago]

make what? pyro mixes? Well, we have a few on the forums, just have a look. If not, then google

[YoungHypnotiq]

alright thanks. i started making trying to make the smoke powder.

[nice_blackcat]

is anyone could help me how to assemble an IED using blackpowder? i prefer to detonate it by cellphone.

[jrly]

Originally Posted by nice_blackcat

is anyone could help me how to assemble an IED using blackpowder? i prefer to detonate it by cellphone.

Read the forum guidelines.

Originally Posted by Xpl0siv

As I am the only moderator at the moment I'll lay down the rules which, if everyone tries to stick to, will make this section much more respectable, useful and safe for everyone who uses it.

1. Do not discuss "homemade bombs".
2. Do not discuss "homemade bombs".
3. Do not discuss "homemade bombs".

And if you don't know how to differentiate between "homemade explosives" and "homemade bombs" then let me explain: Homemade bombs are, as far as I am concerned and as far as the many governments around the world are concerned, devices that are used to kill or maim other people. Various middle eastern suicide bombers, the london bus and subway bombers, car bombs and all other types of anti personall bombs which are constructed at home are labelled "homemade bombs". So, as soon as "homemade bombs" are discussed you start to trigger some powerful emotional responses from people, and sometimes from people who we don't really want to fuck with.... and i shouldn't need to name them..

So the term "homemade bomb" should not be used to label any type of explosive device that may be being discussed.

4. If you are discussing improvised explosive devices (i.e. a casing, detonator and explosive combination) state their intended purpose. It's all very well telling everyone that you have made this excellent shaped charge design that will "blow the shit out of something" but please understand that without stating a purpose for your device, you are effectivly leaving it up to the reader to assume that purpose. I don't need to remind you what the media, the police and the various government agencies that monitor controversial websites all automatically assume when explosives devices are being discussed.

5. Do not incriminate yourself. Never make any posts which are written in first person to do with building explosive devices. It is easy to word your post in such a way so that you are not stating that YOU have done what ever it is you are talking about.

For example:

If you want to make an explosive then what you need to do is mix X and Y in A and then you will have E.

This should be worded as:

If one was intent on making an explosive then that person would mix X and Y in A and then would find they had E.

Get it? It is a good habit to get into, so please try to follow this rule.

Call me paranoid, but it is a reality that these days freedom of speech is not what it used to be. We can not, unfortunately, freely chat about how to make bombs and this and that. It only takes ONE reporter to take exception to ONE post and publish a condemning article about bombshock and that would be the end of the forums. Not to mention probably dropping me in a world of shit with authorities. Worst case scenario - ISP records are seized and they go after inderviduals who have incriminated themselves from their posts. Lets not even risk any of that shit ey?

Rule 5. Do not post misinformation@! Do not even post anything that you have gathered from anywhere but a reputable source without noting the possibility of error.

Follow the above simple rules and we can discuss everything we could want to without the possibility of getting in the shit.

Thanks, Xpl0siv

[scavengerdog]

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Just a push in the right direction for you. If you can find a book called "Steal This Book" by Abby Hoffman you will find the answers to just about all your questions. The author was a rebel and some say an outlaw in the 60's so I don't think you would know anything about him but if you can find a old hippie around just ask them and I am sure the will be glad to tell you all about him. In this book he describes of to make bombs, street fighting tactics, getting free services like medical and food and other things. I have found it on the internet for free and you can read it on line.

[The Guru]

Hey "Guy"

Is that really how you spell guy fauks.???

[7gh0st7]

Before rooting around in the forum archives, i will ask, does anyone know any simple recipes for smoke and flash powder? I'm not much of a pyrotechnic myself, but i could use some, for distraction etc.,

[General Grim]

I highly advised against you doing anything without prior experience, but smoke mix is simple:

1:1, Potassium nitrate : Sugar

As for flash power I've written a tutorial in my pyrotechnics group, the link is in my signature, scroll down to the messages for the tutorial.

[7gh0st7]

I've made the smoke bomb before, we used a 6:4 ratio of potassium nitrate to sugar ratio, heat over a low flame until peanut butter color and texture, let sit, and light. It actually smoked pretty well. I just wasnt too sure about the flash powder.

[jrly]

Originally Posted by scavengerdog

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Just a push in the right direction for you. If you can find a book called "Steal This Book" by Abby Hoffman you will find the answers to just about all your questions. The author was a rebel and some say an outlaw in the 60's so I don't think you would know anything about him but if you can find a old hippie around just ask them and I am sure the will be glad to tell you all about him. In this book he describes of to make bombs, street fighting tactics, getting free services like medical and food and other things. I have found it on the internet for free and you can read it on line.

Steal this Book by Abbie Hoffman

[blacksunday]

Originally Posted by ATSACIN

And 60%? well I don't know what to make, but I will save it.
We talk more tomorow.
Thanks.

Have you thought about gun cotton?

i'm quite sure it's just cotton wool soaked in a 50/50 solution of nitric and sulphuric acid, then left to dry. be careful though, it's volotile and can be set off if you hit it with a hammer (don't try) otherwise use a fuse

[User3rror]

How do you make a mortar?

[thyrus]

how do you make a simple fuse? my guess is that you dip string in gas(and/or oil) and light it i don't can some one tell me if i'm right

[AngryAngry]

Originally Posted by thyrus

how do you make a simple fuse? my guess is that you dip string in gas(and/or oil) and light it i don't can some one tell me if i'm right

You're wrong. I highly recommend not to make such a fuse. It is not reliable at all.
If you want a cheap fuse, either rip one out of a firecracker, either get a piece of string, put nail polish or (flammable) glue on it, and then cover it with crushed matchhead powder, as fine as possible.

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I'm thinking of making blackpowder soon, cause it seems to be a good thing for beginners to start with. I have some questions though:
-Where do I get sulfur? The last thing I want to do is order it online.
-I can get plenty of NaNO3 (=chili saltpeter), but no KNO3. Will it work? Does it change anything?
-Just plain barbeque charcoal, right?
-I'll use these proportions : 75 chili saltpeter 15 charcoal 10 sulfur.

Thanks...

[that guy]

Originally Posted by AngryAngry

I'm thinking of making blackpowder soon, cause it seems to be a good thing for beginners to start with. I have some questions though:
-Where do I get sulfur? The last thing I want to do is order it online.
-I can get plenty of NaNO3 (=chili saltpeter), but no KNO3. Will it work? Does it change anything?
-Just plain barbeque charcoal, right?
-I'll use these proportions : 75 chili saltpeter 15 charcoal 10 sulfur.

Thanks...

-I got sulfur at a gardening store. I've seen it at hardware stores too.

-It will work but I think it burns a little slower.

-Barbeque charcoal is a bad choice. It burns much more slowly. I think it has clay as a binder.

Shouldn't this be in the black powder & flash powder thread? I'm sure all your questions are already answered there.

[AngryAngry]

I'm sorry for being an idiot and not looking down the page... I'm talking about Pipebombman's guide to blackpowder. I'll read through the thread.
Thanks anyway.

[Garf]

I think there's something that was overlooked here by everyone so far: Gaze, have you ever made explosives before? Do you have any experience in the field? Do you know how to safely detonate a blasting cap with a hammer and nail?
If you came across some AN, would you recognize it?
And are you just trying to make some wild pyrotechnics, or blast treestumps out of the ground? What is the mass of the target you're thinking of?


Gas masks run about $80 at any army surplus, btw.
Buy one before you mix something together you'll regret...like milk and chlorine or something.

[UnNamed]

I do apologize for this, but I've simply been unsuccessful even with google.
My question is regarding blasting caps.
Preferably non-electric.
How do I make them? What do I need?
I'm in the research and learning phase of pyrotechnics.