simple impact grenade/explosive

[voo_doo]

how can i make one?? (besides a tennis ball bomb)

[M. Aronnax]

I wish I could help you... I'm just getting into explosives myself. by the by, whats a tennis ball bomb?

[sakaxxx]

hydrogen peroxide and alcohol then you have an impact explosive.
i am going to try it out next week if i do not answer i will have failed im my experiment):

[kbk]

You need more than just hydrogen peroxide and alcohol. Check the explosives forum of this website for good impact explosives. This would be a better place to discuss how to assemble them.

[voo_doo]

a tennis ball bomb is a tennis ball which is FULL of strike anywhere matches with tape over the hole. throw it at a wall and like 2 seconds later BOOM. but i dont recomend doing this. lol as it is very deadly and dangerous

[M. Aronnax]

Sweet!.... Despite your recommendation, which I do respect, I have to try that now.

[voo_doo]

well, ok it is your hand not mine. lol let me know if it works, and if i dont get a reply i will be at the funeral. lol :lol:

[headcase]

Ugh, it's probably best this isn't in the explosives forum.

Voo_doo, don't give advice about a "bomb" you know nothing about. "Tennis ball fizzle" is more accurate. Just put it together outside. Strike-anywhere matches are sensitive and you don't want it going off inside your house. Other then that, you'll survive. Although why you would put that much time and effort (and money) into such a lame project is beyond me.

[YoungHypnotiq]

^^^^^^^Agreed

i was plannig on doing it then i realized how much the matches cost. you cant find them anywhere and the you would have to chop off the heads. and if one tihng went wrong the whole thing is a waste. waste of time.

[M. Aronnax]

um.... ok. I did not know that. thanks I guess. I have a plan for a shrapnel grenade but I have to experiment with it to see if it will work. I planned on getting a common firework of some type form a vendor (like a m80) and sticking it full of sewing pins or thumb tacks. in theory I hope it will explode and send sewing needles in every direction. I don't know about this though, i just thought of it at work yesterday.

[pyromainiac420]

Fucking kewl...your gonna end up with a pin in your eye or ballsack.

[Jago]

why would you want an impact grenade/explosive anyway? Unless built PROPPERLY, it could very easily go off during transportation etc.
No such thing as a "simple impact explosive/grenade", other than, just an impact sensitive explosive on its own, which are very dangerous.

It also all depends on how complicated and big you want to go i guess. There's always the possibility for an electronic/switch type of ignition etc. Chemical reactions too i.e one chemical is contained in one glass vessle(sp?), when broken, reacts with another chemical which spontaneously ignites etc etc.
Hmm, thinking about it has given me a few ideas actually

[pyromainiac420]

Wet nitrogen triiodide in a film canister or somthing. But I wouldnt play with NI3 if i were you.

[Jago]

no, NI3 is far too sensitive to be used with, well, anything.

[Rose de Nose]

Originally Posted by Jago

why would you want an impact grenade/explosive anyway? Unless built PROPPERLY, it could very easily go off during transportation etc.
No such thing as a "simple impact explosive/grenade", other than, just an impact sensitive explosive on its own, which are very dangerous.

True, true. Most current day impact explosion type grenade launcher rounds have a system that arms it only when it has turned a certain number of revolutions. That way, you don't:
(A. Drop it, and it goes off,
or
(B. Shoot it so close to you that you are yourself toast.

So, when it fires, the grenade spirals like a thrown football, and after, say, 12 revolutions, it becomes armed, then is activated by impact.

Now, I'm not sure how one would construct that in a home lab environment, it would probably be too much work to even bother with. And, complicated safety concerns are not usually at the top of the list of things to worry about for a man building a bomb. Well, maybe for a sane man building a bomb. (But really, how many are there of those these days?)

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by Rose de Nose

True, true. Most current day impact explosion type grenade launcher rounds have a system that arms it only when it has turned a certain number of revolutions. That way, you don't:
(A. Drop it, and it goes off,
or
(B. Shoot it so close to you that you are yourself toast.

So, when it fires, the grenade spirals like a thrown football, and after, say, 12 revolutions, it becomes armed, then is activated by impact.

Now, I'm not sure how one would construct that in a home lab environment, it would probably be too much work to even bother with. And, complicated safety concerns are not usually at the top of the list of things to worry about for a man building a bomb. Well, maybe for a sane man building a bomb. (But really, how many are there of those these days?)

It would need to be spring loaded, much like many retractable keychains.

When the spring expands completely, it could complete the circuit for the detonator.

[willi-wurm]

above is agreed. dont play with matchheads kids. thats just.... (i hate using this word) gay. i know its unfair to say that someone who is new in the area should be playing with other compounds (who the hell suggested NI3!) but yeah.

if i were you, i wouldnt worry about making impact grenades. they are unsafe, costly, and will probably not work anyway. and if they do work, you have no life, but your still cool (:

just use the time and money to make a fused based (or electric igintion) based explosive. more money: more interesting or bigger charge.

[Timm]

Older post i know but I had to jump in, been away for a while...

I have recently been playing with some quite awesome impact devices.. Basically they are an exploding arrow, but lacking a bow, I just shoot them out of my shotgun with a home loaded blank... 20 to 26-27 grains of FFG equivalent Pyrodex... They drop a few feet over their flight but hit the concrete shitter wall with a resounding authority!!

They kick ass... Just a gnarly firework really but I have a cap adapter worked out that would slip over the 209 primer assembly to give a "real deal" shotgun grenade. The impact part involves a cut-off .243 shell, a 209 primer, a lil aluminum bushing, a tiny piece of rubber fuel line, a blunted aluminum roofing nail...some J-B weld... All combined into the little plastic bottle cap, which allows one to keep a normal cap on the bottle (half-full of flash, mounted to the arrow) for safety reasons, until the last minute where one switches it out with the impact actuated ignitor cap.. totally fucking awesome, and uses all retail store parts, (except the flash of course!!) which i've realized is an important feature of making crazy toys that are reproducable. Contact me if you are interested in the details..

[uchiacon]

I suppose a small charge of chlorate and sugar/red phosphorus ignites/detonates from sudden impact igniting whatever else you have packed around it... i.e. smoke mixture. I wouldn't want to have any more than a few grams of the impact sensitive shit. Have the rest as flashpowder or something. Wrap it around a large steel or lead ball bearing. Maybe 1/2-3/4" diameter.

Alternatively, you can use the caps off a capgun.

[willi-wurm]

or you could by the little snaps which you get on new years (: they may be shit, but their a hell of a lot safer.