Acetone Peroxide

[IAMZERG]

so I guess you would recommend doing it outside if I were ever inclined to make it? :wink:

[Shalshaska]

Originally Posted by IAMZERG

so I guess you would recommend doing it outside if I were ever inclined to make it? :wink:

I (in dreams, of course), make all of my substances in a house I found, and now the place stinks to hell, so yes, I'd say do it outside, unless you want your house to smell like a mix of acetone and a potpourri of acids...

[pyromainiac420]

1) Acetone Peroxide's VoD is 5290 m/s your batch will not have this VoD...unless you plan to press it to EXTREME densities witha vise, and i remember reading somewere that BP's VoD is 300m/s but ill double check at some point if i remeber to.

2) There are certainly gasses, but their breathable I always dream that i do it inside.

3)15g = mmmm hard to say becuase it depends if you squeezed the water out in the filter, but shalsaskas probably right a table spoon. Although it would be a very full table spoon.

[pyromainiac420]

Originally Posted by blank stare

I know this will sound really k3wl at first, but it isn't really. Peanut Butter wouldn't react badly with AP unless I am gravely mistaken, plus it is easy to come by and inconspicuous. Though, it probably wouldn't be as useful as, say, spackle or the like.

somewere i heard that peanut butter is some kind of acid(csi i think) so that'd probably be a bad idea

[Jago]

Originally Posted by pyromainiac420

somewere i heard that peanut butter is some kind of acid(csi i think) so that'd probably be a bad idea

ummmmm
Why would you want to mix peanutt butter with AP anyway?

[napalmiscool]

IAMZERG,"Black powder lends itself to fireworks because it's a "low explosive," meaning its detonation velocity is less than about 100 yards per second."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/fireworks/anat_nf.html

"Why would you want to mix peanutt butter with AP anyway?"
To make some 1337 peanutbutter plastic explosives! haha

[Shalshaska]

Originally Posted by Jago

ummmmm
Why would you want to mix peanutt butter with AP anyway?

My guess would be to make some kind of castable, desensitized explosive. I guess it would be called APPB :wink:

I, personally, would use the AP putty method with nitrocellulose and acetone, though.

[pyromainiac420]

I would rather not make any kind of peroxide putty.

[YoungHypnotiq]

how powerful is AP?

[pyromainiac420]

It will detonate most secondaries, but the fact that i used to detonate large amounts of it as a main charge makes me wonder why i still have arms. I would never again pack a twenty or thirty gram charge of the stuff again.

[YoungHypnotiq]

can i pack lik 5 grams and make an explosion?

[nzmilitia]

yeah havnt you read through the ap post
be carefull wen packing because to much friction and that explosion
be last thing you will see or will be last time you see your hand ..........

start with straw or cardboard casings if guna try this for first time
as we dont want to have to start a post based on who has what part missing from body..lol

[YoungHypnotiq]

lol. alright. i probably wont pack it at all. because i am afraid i will lose my hand. just dump it in a cardoard bthing.

[nzmilitia]

carefully pour it in then lightly pack it...

dont mean to sound like your mother, just dont want to see any bombshock
members injured ,especialy ones who actualy post...

[pyromainiac420]

Pretty much anything you put this stuff in will make it go boom, hell it may even go boom if you put paper over it. Press it lightly, it scares me when i think of how hard i used to press AP with my hands. **SHUDDERS** Things is I wasnt just pressing blasting caps too hard i had packed a 20g charge once...coulda been the end of me.

[YoungHypnotiq]

im basically gonna make 5g then stick in a cardboard container. should i tape up the cardboard or what?

[Shalshaska]

This seems like a good situation for PM's.

Anyway, whether to tape the ends depends on what you already have sealing them. In any case, I'd try to be sure the ends are at least as thick as the main body.

[Jago]

yes. completely tape it up, even around the fuse. It won't put out the fuse so don't worry, it will burn through the tape.

[nzmilitia]

ive always taped the fuck out of all mine as i find more tape keeping it sealed
the louder the bang when it goes off....

[gangstapyro101]

yo thermite is the best stuff for burning crap in half

[nzmilitia]

this anint for talking about thermite
this forums is strickly for talking about acetone peroxide

[Jago]

Originally Posted by gangstapyro101

yo thermite is the best stuff for burning crap in half

What the FUCK are you on about? Smoke much before you came here?
We're not even talking about burning the crap out of anything, and this thread is about acetone peroxide.

[TuRps_NZ]

If you dont have access to 30% H202 then you can use 3% you just use 10 times more. I am correct are'nt I?...

[Jago]

More or less, yes(if im wrong, correct me). You'd have a shitload of water in there though

[pyromainiac420]

You will also have to use 10 time the amount of acid and acetone i believe. Maybe not acetone but acid for sure.

[Jago]

why acid? It's just a catalyst
You are just compensating for the lack of concentration with the H2O2, therefor evening up the numbers. Everything else should still stay the same

[PrismPast]

ok so i have a series of questions about how to do this with different %. First of all can you just use 10 times the amount of H202...that last few posts seemed inconclusive, second of all does anybody know what the % rate is for 6 molar HCl. i just grabbed a stock bottle of 6 m HCl from my AP chem class but im not positive what the conversion would be....can anybody help?

[TuRps_NZ]

if you cant get 30% H2O2 just use 10 times the amount of 3% eg. 10mL 30%= 100mL 3%.

[PrismPast]

what about the molar conversion? how much of 6 molar HCL would i need following this recipe?

[pyromainiac420]

When I first tried AP I tried it with 450ml 3% h202, 30% hcl 10ml and 30ml of acetone. It didnt work, you need more acid. And BTW its a hell of a lot easier, to just boil down your peroxide.