Acetone Peroxide

[kbk]

I've posted this exact tutorial many places, here we go...

Acetone Peroxide = C9H18O6

Acetone Peroxide is a Primary High Explosive. It is sensitive to shock, heat, light, friction, and most other things an explosive can be sensitive to. This isn't much of a problem if you handle it with care and when you're making it you add the HCl in slowly, drop wise. If this is done, Acetone Peroxide is a great place to start in HE's.

Materials:
Chemicals- 500mL of 3% H2O2 (1), 300mL of 100% Acetone (2), and 250mL of 20-30% HCl (3).
Equipment- large glass container (jar 1L+), a beaker (500mL+), and some Coffee filters/filter paper.

Procedure:
First take your beaker and fill it with 500 mL of H2O2, dump this into your jar.
Next measure 300 mL of Acetone into the beaker, pour this into the jar.
Now measure the 250 mL of HCl and pour this into the jar drop-wise, very slowly, if the HCl is added too quickly you will end up with dicyclo AP which is very sensitive.
Once this is done place your jar into a refrigerator and leave it there for at least 1 week.
After about a week the jar will have tiny crystals floating on the bottom. These crystals are the AP.
Now it is time to filter, get another jar and cover the opening of it with the filter paper. now pour the liquid into the filter, keep adding until all the liquid is gone and you cant see the crystals in the other jar any more.
After you filter you will need to let the AP dry for awhile, set it in a cool, dark, dry place, do not put it in the oven unless you dont want the oven anymore!
Once it is dry you are ready to pack it into your casing, pack it in tightly but be sure not to pound it in, this could cause it to go off right in your hand. This recipe makes about 15 grams. (I reccomend starting with 5g or under!)

(1) H2O2 can be purchased at any store, H2O2 is also known as hydrogen peroxide, the stuff in the brown bottle that you put on cuts to disinfect them.
(2) Acetone can be purchased at lowes or another hardware store as a paint remover, or as nail varnish remover but the
acetone in nail varnish remover is diluted.
(3) HCl (hydrocloric acid) for this you can use a drain opener, like draino, I recommend "the works" it seems to be the only one with any HCl in it that i can find at my local store.

AP is a very sensitive primary explosive, use with caution.

You can also use H2SO4 for this synthesis instead of HCl, if you use H2SO4 use an ice bath becasue it tends to heat up.

[donnie darko]

AP would have a good use in detonators

[kbk]

It is used in detonators, it has a VoD of about 5000m/s and it can initiate most ANxx comps and alot of other booster comps..

[donnie darko]

i just thought i would add my 2 cents to the topic

Acetone peroxide will detonate by the action of flame or percussion.

A very good secondary explosive can be made by mixing the AP with
Ammonium Nitrate which is found in fertilizers.
The fertilizer you use must contain at least 80 percent Ammonium Nitrate.
Mix the pulverized Ammonium Nitrate with AP properly.
You may use the following proportions depending on the purity of the
Ammonium Nitrate.

1. Technically pure,dry Ammonium Nitrate:
90 % Ammonium Nitrate
10 % Acetone Peroxide

2. Quite pure (90%) Swedish N-24,26,28 DRY!!!!
85 % Ammonium Nitrate
15 % Acetone Peroxide

3. Poor quality DRY!!!!
75 % Ammonium Nitrate
25 % Acetone Peroxide

[kbk]

I get my AN from instant cold packs at the pharmacy, I usually use the ratio 90/10 (AN/AP) or 50/50, the 90/10 requires a small AP blasting cap and the 50/50 is fuse sensitive.

[blank stare]

I've found Acetone Peroxide to be extremely versatile. And it's so easy to make.

I've also read about acetone peroxide putty. I'm not sure the exact specifications, but apparently it makes it a lot safer to handle, as the granules won't rub together. I believe some sort of putty or pipe glue was used, but I'm sure you could use spackle or something of the sort.

[Kaos-theory]

im sure i read that AP could be made in 2 days minimum. think it was Angry Jacks website he had. and i can get 17.5% H2O2 and i have 98% H2SO4 what conc Acetoen will i need to get?

[Douchermann]

I can usually get a full reaction in 2hours from starting it (on smaller batches) but its a bitch to dry and its soluble in acetone, and denatured (methyl and ethyl) alchohol.

The conc of acetone is usually un-identifiable, but 90+% is good (it will usually be in that range at a hardware store)

[blank stare]

The conc of acetone is usually un-identifiable

Conc?


But back to Acetone Peroxide, what is a safe method of compacting it?

[Kaos-theory]

conc = concentration. Amount iof dilution it has eg 12% conc would mean it had 88% water in it. so 100% woudl be pure

[kbk]

Go for 90% acetone, you can get it at lowes in the paint department (can't miss it, it says acetone right on the can).

[Douchermann]

Pressing AP is safe as hell, For a detonator Use a drinking straw, 3inch long. wrap some tissue paper around a fuse and put it in to one side, pour you AP in and tap it so all the air pockets are gone. Take a tissue wad and pud it in the bottom, press it down with a stirring straw until it wont go any farther and your done.

[kbk]

Bottle caps (like from water bottles) are great too, just take the bottle cap, press your AP into it, and then put some duct tape over it and put a fuse in it..

[grimR]

the more pure your peroxide the faster the reaction, more sulfuric acid helps also but make sure to keep it cool you dont want to create an unstable product.

[kbk]

Sulpfuric acid is only a catalyst that speeds the reaction time...And the unstable product you are reffering to is DCAP as opposed to TCAP.

[blank stare]

I thought about how if you could mix it with pipe glue, which is flammable by itself, you could stick it to something, and insert a fuse. A spin on AP Putty.

[Douchermann]

pipe glue is Methyl Ethyl Ketone, i don't know how it would react with that, it might dissolve in it. That would be fun to try. And for your information, high conc's of your peroxide gives better yeilds, not faster reaction times.

[K9]

Actually higher concentrations of reactants will affect a reaction rate by increasing it.

[blank stare]

I know this will sound really k3wl at first, but it isn't really. Peanut Butter wouldn't react badly with AP unless I am gravely mistaken, plus it is easy to come by and inconspicuous. Though, it probably wouldn't be as useful as, say, spackle or the like.

[Synchronium]

Peroxide putties are generally a bad idea.

Make a HE putty and use an ignition tube primary blastig cap for it.

[blank stare]

I'd rather not mess with anything over my head. I'll just stick with lightly compressed AP.

[kbk]

The way I went through explosives was like this: started with 3g of AP and went on to get up to 20g, after 20g of AP I did 40g of APAN (50:50) and went up to 80g of that, then I made NC, I never used it in an explosive I just prepared it, after that I did 100g of ANAP (90:10), and recently I made TNP but due to a weak casing it didn't det. all the way. You start small and then you go big...Plus the bigger you go the more stable things become and all that.

[blank stare]

Plus the bigger you go the more stable things become and all that.

Why is that, anyway?

I'm always afraid of something going wrong when I make AP so I shake, which is the opposite of what you wanna do.

[kbk]

AP is not as big and scary as it often sounds, yes it is very unstable compared to others but not so unstable that if you drop it it will explode...I don't really know why explosives are less sensitive the more powerful they are..

[blank stare]

I was always under the impression that if they[the crystals] were dropped, they'd go off.
Without confinement, AP only burns.

[kbk]

If the chrystals are dropped they will not go off...So don't worry about it too much...Although you must use any explosive with some fear of it because it you fear it, you will respect it..

[blank stare]

I remember writing on my little dry erase board about something that can be used to 'cut' Acetone Peroxide, but I brushed up against it one day and it rubbed off. HMTD comes to mind, but I know it isn't that.

[Jago]

Originally Posted by donnie darko

AP would have a good use in detonators

a bit sensitive, so you have to watch what material you use as a casing. Also depends on what you are detonating and how much of it. In some cases you will need a booster charge to fully initiate the primary charge

[heretic88]

hey im pretty new to making HE myself what precautions should i take like when ever i store it in the fridge is there a possibility that it would go off, and how exactly unstable is the stuff like slamming the fridge door would that set it off, or if i set it out in the light would it go off after a while. sorry for being a noob here lol but ive always been interested in HE

[Bongermann]

Sensitivity generally go's back to crystal and molecule stress. More stress less stable, less stress more stable. NH4*NO3 is not stressed at all, and is so insensitive it can't be detonated by itself, C9H18O6 is very stressed, it is less stable because of this. It also has to do with chemical bond strength's and whatnot. At least this is from what I know to be true. Someone want to go more into that or correct me?