how do i make a thermite detonator

[raiden654]

how di i make a thermite detonator or get magnesium

[Corporal Punishment]

for fucks sake you are the stupidest mother fucker here.

stop asking stupid questions, you cant make a detonator out of thermite.

If I had mod powers I'd ban you for making so many shit threads

[Azrael21]

I am pretty sure he ment how do you detonate thermite. Not really the right term for it. Ignite is more the word. Get a ribbon of magnesium. You should be able to steal that from your school.

[Corporal Punishment]

you are helping him risk his life/property.

and I'm assuming the majority of what he's risking belongs to his parents...how old are you kid?

[crazy white guy]

I couldn't help but laughing at your post corporal. I think you misunderstood. He doesn't want to use the thermite to make a detonator. He wants to make a detonator for use with thermite. I would suggest buying magnesium ribbon off of eBay. You could also use a road flare but they burn for too long and are a fire hazard. Taking apart a 12g flare is dangerous but it would give you a ball of high temperature mix that can be lit with a low temp flame in the area of 700 - 1000 C. The only choices that i have heard other than that are a lot harder but get great results.

first you can make a series of hotter and hotter mixes until you finally have enough heat to light the thermite. The first would be a decent temp. with sulfur to lower the ignition temperature to practical levels. After that you can use whatever mixes you find on the web. I've never really looked into this method as it takes too many different hard to get chemicals.
The second is buying magnesium rods from camping stores of as heater rods(Not personal experience so someone will have to vouch) and scrape it until you have a 5g ish pile. this can be mix with whatever pyro mix you have available (i used commercial flake, black powder.) This mix is then put in a baggie and the baggie is put just under the surface of the thermite. You would light it with a propane torch and you have ignition. This isn't very reliable but its better than ordering the mg ribbon if you have the mg stock handy.

[Corporal Punishment]

indeed I did misunderstand.

I'm surprised you are so helpful of an inDUHvidual who thinks "Detonate" and "Ignite" are synonymous.

I recommend more study before you play with lethal things.

Edit: if you are at all knowledgeable of pyro you should know it can be done with one comp no step ups required...and these chems are not hard to get... you just need to know where and how to get them, a good way to figure it out would be to think of other LEGAL uses for them.

[Azrael21]

Thermite can actually be ignited with a oxy-acetaline torch if you know what you are doing. Which no offense, you probably dont. All i know about the torch method is that you have to first heat the mixture to a cherry red, from there on out i dont know how they do it. Wish i could be more of a help. Try Wikipedia or something.

[Corporal Punishment]

you bring up a good point this can be a decent thread for discussing first fire mixtures as the dipshit OP will have to study to get any of it.

okay, you take your well sifted nitrate flare comp (plus boric) and add about 10% charcoal (airfloat) and mix very well with about 30% the flare comps original weight in BP.

you have a fuse ignitable Al comp of fearsome power. this stuff is as bright as the original flare mix only more smoke and faster burning.

I have not yet figured the adjusted ratios

[klunckmonkey]

Corporal Punishment just let the bitch blow himself up so we rid the forums of these people. Encourage him. Why not try making 10-20 pounds of thermite?! That will make even more fire. Hell, throw some napalm in there!

[Azrael21]

You know what Corporal, you are kind of a dick most of the time. But underneath that i think you know what you are talking about. Do you plan on majoring in Chemistry?

[Corporal Punishment]

actually powdered Mg in napalm (PROPER NAPALM not this anarchist shit) is a very scary thing.. just make a molotov out the whole ordeal and you've got some serious shit for the firefighters to deal with.
I'd say about about 1/5 the volume of the bottle of around -425 mesh Mg powder made the brightest fireball I've ever seen. what happens is at first only the napalm burns but it brings the energy in the whole system up, in effect lowering the EA for the magnesium. then the MG ignites.

if you pour water on it it just gets hotter

I'm a cook. pyro/chem is a hobby

[Azrael21]

Oh, i see. I was just wondering because i would like to get a Masters in Chemistry in a couple years when i head off to college. Some of your stuff i agree with but it needs to be presented better. Lol people would listen to you more if you layed up on the assholishness. You do seem different than most of the people on here though. Not such a punk i guess. lol

[Corporal Punishment]

If you haven't noticed I'm just trying to bitch the idiots off.

[Azrael21]

I could not agree with you more on the whole idiot bitching out thing. Most people on this website dont have a clue what they are doing. I am not much better but at least i can listen to advice. Why dont people get that thermite is an extremely dangerous reaction? People need to plan and think.

[Corporal Punishment]

oh they'll know its bad when that rogue droplet of molten iron is propelled at their face over 30 feet away

[Azrael21]

Exactly! I mean you are making molten metal so basically making lava. And i mean how the fuck are you going to clean that up? Its a big puddle of molten metal! It would take forever to cool and harden enough for it to be moved. Where are they going to make it their basement?! God damn think!

[Corporal Punishment]

actually. terra cotta pots make wonderful crucibles complete with a hole in the bottom to act as a funnel.

find a terra cotta base without a hole to act as a splatter guard and you have a decent rig for making casts.

[Azrael21]

The only thermite reaction i have ever seen was in a terra-cotta pot elevated from the ground about one foot or so. Underneath this was a terra-cotta tray filled with sand. It seemed to work okay. It was in very small measurements also. It was ignited with a Magnesium ribbon.

[Corporal Punishment]

I've done some basic molds as a demonstration for the local art school. if you have a good amount of clay you can make some nice things. get some flat pewter ingots and you can even do the interior of an ant hill. some artist here sells them.

[Azrael21]

Oh, thats cool. I have taken a couple of pottery classes at school so i suppose i could make something like that. I would really like to make some thermite (in theory) i have been working on it for a while because i dont want to rush into it. I am producing FeO2 and could easily get some etch a sketches for the Al. My chem teacher is awesome and he told me that he would give me all the stuff i needed for it if i could achieve it with improvised equipment. But he moved.

[Corporal Punishment]

its Fe2O3 not FeO2

[stubaw]

Originally Posted by raiden654

how di i make a thermite detonator or get magnesium

Well you can buy Mg blocks from army surplus stores, and you can light thermite with a cutting torch. I thought I would dumb the expkanation down a bit, for the sake of the (probably now deceased) noob. :L

[Corporal Punishment]

yes lets light thermite standing right next to it GREAT idea!

I dunno know about you but i also like setting my pants on fire

[The Guru]

Originally Posted by Azrael21

Oh, thats cool. I have taken a couple of pottery classes at school so i suppose i could make something like that. I would really like to make some thermite (in theory) i have been working on it for a while because i dont want to rush into it. I am producing FeO2 and could easily get some etch a sketches for the Al. My chem teacher is awesome and he told me that he would give me all the stuff i needed for it if i could achieve it with improvised equipment. But he moved.

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Ive made thermite. iono if its the same deal but all i did was accelerate the rusting proccess and scraped it off, ground it up and lit it with magnesium. I didnt know it was sooo complicated???? Mine worked by the way

[crazy white guy]

that isnt thermite dumbass.

Thermite is where you mix a metal oxide with a metal or another metal oxide to make a powder that turns into burning metal aided by the oxygen that is let off by the oxides. Though you don't have to stick with aluminum, you cant just forget the other metal altogether. thats what makes it thermite.

also i hear you get good results with copper oxide.

[The Guru]

If you get an iron rod or sumthing and make it rust you get the iron shit with te rust, its like a two for one, I mean its not as bubbly as other thermites, but if you want to blow up a car thats been sitting in the same place for a month it does the job.

[Corporal Punishment]

Edit: guru stop posting here if you can't post something that doesn't make you sound like you still sleep in a crib


aluminium is very reactive.

if you take a metal lower in the reactivity series you get a reaction known as an "aluminothermic", or Thermit" reaction in which the a pure metal and a metal oxide exchange oxidation states to form their basic oxide...there are a quite a few other names for this and the farther away the metal is in the series the faster the reaction goes.

although manipulation of physical processes can do some wonderful things.

I remember a member of APC tried to make some rockets with -325 flake Al and MnO2... thats supposed to be a VERY slow reaction and the way he manufactured it....well... very bright and very dangerous it just sploded

[Jago]

***LOCKED***
It's a shame I've been away for work otherwise I would have locked this thread a while ago and warned you all.

for fucks sake you are the stupidest mother fucker here.

stop asking stupid questions, you cant make a detonator out of thermite.

If I had mod powers I'd ban you for making so many shit threads

Posts like this are unacceptable. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, don't post at all.
raiden654: Use propper spelling and punctuation when making future posts and do a search before posting a new topic. The answer to your question has already been covered many times, in previous thermite threads.