Liquid or gas

[AdrenalineJunky]

Liquid or gas.

I live in a desert, no one around for many miles.

along my drive I have this huge (around 20 ton or more) bolder that looks like it could go at any time yet its firm in place, I am sick of worrying about it,
most of the solid components for explosives are getting hard to find without a license or someone doing the job for me, it seems ANFO in the USA is not much of an option anymore.

So I am wondering what (if any) liquids or gass's I could mix that would do the job thats easy to find and mix and use, a solid would be nice but I am having a hard time finding what I would need in the amounts that I would need, cheaply. it going to take more then a couple sticks worth to bring this baby down,
I have gass tanks that I can mix gass's in if need be (if I can find places that will let me add/mix my own too the tanks) and as for liquids thats a no brainer.

[master lurtz]

Most professional blasters yould drill into the rock, put down a blasting cap and booster then some form of ANFO slurry/bulk explosive then another blasting cap and smaller booster on top just to enshure detonation, at least thats how they do it at my mates blasting company (Red Bull Powder Company).

I dont know if that helps at all, probabily not.

[Hobbit Porn]

Originally Posted by master lurtz

Most professional blasters yould drill into the rock, put down a blasting cap and booster then some form of ANFO slurry/bulk explosive then another blasting cap and smaller booster on top just to enshure detonation,

Seems like a bit of overkill to me. I'm pretty sure where I used to work they would pop the the oversize rocks by drilling a hole and just using a booster to crack the rocks up.

Either way, it is not going to be much help for the original poster, unless he has access to the type of drill needed.

[AdrenalineJunky]

There is a bit of a pocket under the stone on the up hill side.
I was thinking of adding what I need there, it is a large enough
pocket I could fit welding tanks or other things of that size in it
then bury it with concrete to help force an angled blast and then
set it off with an electric charge.

I do not have anything to cut or drill holes in the rock,
and I have all kinds of empty spare welding and propane tanks.
A liquid could work as well, I do not care about over kill,
if anything it might be fun and help brake up the stone some.

[Hetfield]

Strange, because the other day i discovered and have been Filling my little head with knowledge of MEKP (Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide)

It's an organic liquid explosive that has a det velocity of 5200mps and is probably brissant enough to do a decent number on your boulder, The best thing about this explosive is that once it is confined it will make a DDT from just a flame, the bad thing is, because of this fact it's fairly unstable and quite sensitive to friction, heat and shock.

Please do not take this the wrong way, but before any more info is given, I would like to know what level of expeirience you have with explosives/Energetic mateirials and basic chemistry, i would not like to be responsible for anybodies injury/Death. This may also help you get more of an insight from other members of the board.

Although, you could also do with finding out the makeup of the boulder, as a high metallic content it would be unadvisable to use any organic peroxide.

Hope thats at least a bit of help

-Hetfield

[Corporal Punishment]

Many many eons ago before I discovered the costs of having women and children in my life, I had an interests In detonating and deflagerating substances, I studied whole volumes of encyclopedias and dictionary's and historical documentations, safely rules and regulations and procedures and all kinds of crap like that.

All kinds of "crap" like that? Whole volumes?
strikes one and two, if you studied this subject so much you would not be asking the question and most certainly in such a stunning display of idiocy.

To me watching the end product actually come to life and work instead of fizzle out was better then sex, the orgasm I got from it was wonderful, I miss it.

not really, you obviously have never had good sex.

Its been well over 2.5 decades since I got to come out and play with my old interests, none of the lady's in my life seemed to like it and so they forbid it, especially with children in my life (shrugs), but now that I am finely free of all that and my children for the most part grown and moved away, now its fun time, but I am really scratchy on the subject and it seems with the 9/11 and the middle east conflicts and related issues much of the information on the net and locating much of the materials has become rather discouraging, it seems if I want to make anything it has to be totally from scratch anymore, so I may just float around for a while and refresh and update my self on things before I open my mouth and stick my foot into it, perhaps ask a question here and there as needed.

Thats what people did in the first place...strike three for your defence of actual knowledge in the hobby


you have already stuck your foot into your mouth sir.

One does not simply forget such things.

I suggest 5 gram APNC cap and a main charge of ETN, possibly no more than a half pound with a few 10" cannon fuses

If you do not care about overkill then i would suggest a 15 gram APNC cap (extra weight just for good measure) with a few kilos of triple base smokeless powder (contains NG/NC/and some other random shit i think its nitro guanidine) dissolve the triple base in acetone and let harden around the cap. make sure you dip the cap in wax first though so it doesnt dissolve into the main charge

[jrly]

Corporal what the fuck was that and how is it relevant?

[Corporal Punishment]

He asks such a question after stating that he had in the past studied this hobby in such depth?

most of the solid components for explosives are getting hard to find without a license or someone doing the job for me, it seems ANFO in the USA is not much of an option anymore.

shows that all he knows is limited to "mix A & B light and run"

So I am wondering what (if any) liquids or gass's I could mix that would do the job thats easy to find and mix and use, a solid would be nice but I am having a hard time finding what I would need in the amounts that I would need, cheaply. it going to take more then a couple sticks worth to bring this baby down,
I have gass tanks that I can mix gass's in if need be (if I can find places that will let me add/mix my own too the tanks) and as for liquids thats a no brainer.

shows that either hes dumb as a rock and couldnt have learned all that he says he has or he simply cannot spell and STILL further proves he does not know as much as he said he did.

most if not all research on explosives useful to amateurs has been over with for several decades

i spot a liar and a bored little teenager wanting to shatter a rock. I gave him the only information so far that will allow him to do such a thing and now its up to him to do enough research that he doesnt have to lie for a spoonfeeding.

In addition to my post youtube has all the shit he needs to do this without asking a shit poor question and bothering people.

and if you actually HAD to ask how is it relevant you shouldnt be posting in here, instead you should be on wiki/roguesci/google/sciencemadness/chem forums/ETC... learning enough that you would spot idiocy from a mile away.


close thread.

as a side note... that bitch has been here under different names.... I may not post alot anymore but i sure as hell read.....

[AdrenalineJunky]

actually your right and wrong.
I did study much in my youth, just I was a fool in my youth
with too much drugs and crap, lost much of what I knew.
over the years i cleaned up my act, became healthy,
some of what I knew comes back with research but its all sketchy.
its been close to 3 decades since I studied anything relating.
and no it was not just put two and two together and make things go boom, I once had a lab and enjoyed making things from scratch.
chastise me as you will, I can not change the past and I do have regrets, but I am not so much that fool I was in my youth,
and its true much of what I had learned is no longer available chemical wise.
and I no longer have my books and notes.
the encyclopedia I read was "encyclopedia explosivstoffe" out of an inter library loan from Moscow Idaho,
I read that and many of its references, to say the least.
but the years have not been kind nor have I been kind to my body,
I have cleaned up my act for over 2.5 decades now, I remember things just fine except for what came before I fucked my self.
but I learned.

and lastly, I am not some bitch that has been here before, I AM NEW HERE,
and I would enjoy retempering what I once knew but with more wisdom this time.
yes I bragged on what I once knew,... a part of me wish's I had never lost it
and in many ways I hope with some practice much of it will come back.

[Corporal Punishment]

then you would be at a more respectable forum such as roguesci...go the fuck there and learn instead of asking teenagers how to destroy a rock.