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08-05-2009, 08:27 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | How to do this... Ok, I'm 16 and iv made small time stuff like chlorine bombs and kid stuff like that but i would like to move up to more interesting things, The only thing is i dont know how to make alot of things and what i should start with, I dont trust the anarchist cookbook because it caused me to almost have to go to the hospital with a chemical burn. So i am asking the people on this forum to help me out and enlighten me on what to do. Id like to learn how to make blasting caps cause it seems they are very important for the more powerful stuff. Also any knowledge you have on some simple yet real explosives i could start with is great. I know im a noob to this and that is why i am asking for help. So anyone that is willing to help me please do. | 
08-05-2009, 09:19 PM
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Rep Power: 3 | | if you are willing to learn start by reading through some of the archives ,and yes the anarchist cookbook is a complete piece of shit.
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08-06-2009, 01:41 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Hi man,yes Blasting cap is more important,as you can make many explosive,but without the caps,you can not make it work the way it is.For making a Blasting cap,the most easy way is to make a HMTD,First i got to say it's very dangerous stuff,just search the HMTD in the youtube,you can find my video about how to do it and what stuff you need,it's very easy chemicals you can get it very easily.also you got to have a electric fuse,etc, |  | |  | 
08-06-2009, 10:31 AM
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Rep Power: 3 | | Don't make HMTD until you have even a small amount of experience with pyrotechnics. A ball mill is a good start. Make some black powder, and learn to respect angry compositions. I made HMTD after I made loads of KNO3 smokebombs and thermite, but luckily I found out how sensitive it was w/o getting injured(taped a tiny amount to the front of a hammer)...
If you do make any HE make sure its in small batches first. If it's a primary, make 0.1-0.01g piles of it, and set it off with a quick whack of a hammer. Make sure you wear safety glasses. You goal is to become scared of this stuff. You need to be scared of it.
Same goes for black powder. Although you will need a ball mill to make it with. Grind it up and granulate it, and light it with a match.
I always do a small test so I know how powerful the stuff is I'm dealing with. It helps you gage how much you are going to need for a loud retort, etc.
I'd reccommend first making blackpowder or KNO3 smokebombs, then try and make some aluminium powder with a ball mill, and then make flash powder. Then you're off and G2G! Make sure you make your ball mill yourself! Storebuilt ones are shit, expensive and break easy.
And I warn you now, if you don't like chemistry, then get to like it, because its the basis of this hobby. If you can explain why something goes boom and have a thorough understanding of it, you'll lose your k3wl status.
And you certainly don't NEED an electronic firing system like the egg above me said. They're big and clumsy unless remote controlled. You can't just light it and run. How do you expect to pack it up if the cops come after you?
Apart from that, I wish you luck, and don't act too much like a fucking k3wl.
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08-22-2009, 06:35 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Ok, thanks for all the advice and setting me up on the right path to get started. The only thing I need now are trustworthy guides on how to make these thigns. cause i dotn trust youtube. Any ideas which guides i should use? | 
08-23-2009, 05:20 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Fuck that load o crap.. Low orders are not a way to get knowledgeable about HE's. You want to start out with HE's, then start. By the time you've got every precursor needed for a reasonable synth you probably got skilled enough. (as, unless you can buy everything you need ofcourse, getting precursors can be a pain in the butt). Do start out with small amounts though, like uchi said
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08-23-2009, 08:27 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | LEs are often more dangerous than HEs. most LEs (not mixtures, AKA FP, BP) are chemically agitated. HEs need more energy to detonate, but are stronger.
you normally need to be able to make some low order stuff (like MEKP or HMTD or something) to set off the high order stuff. most people start by making small amounts of AP, and work their way up.
one thing though. low order does NOT mean its safer. the most dangerous part of working with explosives is making them. the safest part is ignition, because your far away, and you'll be more alert.
but if your thumb's flying at 2000ms per second or 6000ms, its off.
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08-24-2009, 02:37 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Ok thanks for the advice, the only thing i need now is someone to explain all the abreviations XD im sorry but people saying HE and LE and HMTP confuses the hell out of me. I'm new to this so along with that comes ignorance to the terms. Lol a few simple explanations would be greatly appreciated. |  | |  | 
08-24-2009, 03:40 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | ok no problem, so sooner you know the better:
HMTD = an explosive formed by the oxydation of hxamine in the presence of an acid, usually citric acid.
HE: High Explosives
LE: Low order Explosives
AP: acetone peroxide
TATP: trimeric acetone peroxide
DCAP: dimeric acetone peroxide
MEKP: methyl ethyl ketone peroxide
BP:black powder
FP: flash powder
KNO3: potassium nitrate
Other terms you might hear in this forum: HNO3: nitric acid
H2SO4:sulfuric acid
TNP: trinitrophenol (commonly called picric acid)
AN: ammonium nitrate
ANFO: ammonium nitrate fuel oil
and other things that you might hear on these forums:
K3wl: (my guess) a teenager with their head up their ass
UTFSE: Use The Fucking Search Engine
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08-24-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by willi-wurm you normally need to be able to make some low order stuff (like MEKP or HMTD or something) | These are not Low Order explosives. You're referring to Primary High Explosives.
Unspoken, try out a primary explosives, but in a small amount!!
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08-24-2009, 07:11 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | sorry X ray, i meant things that dont need a detonator.
and sorry about the abbreviations!
also, dont mix up chemical names with abreviations, a mistake i used to make alot. there is a whole thread which was a misunderstanding about abreviations, namely someone was asking about the use of AP in a rocket fuel. everyone was scoffing, but turns out they thought he was talking about TATP, and not ammonium perchlorate. ammonium perchlorate is NH4ClO4, but rocket people like to just say AP.
as for the terms, [i used to do this] i used to think MEKP was the chemical name for methyl ethyl ketone peroxide, like KNO3 is the chemical name for potassium nitrate. this is WRONG. but MEKP is faster than saying the chemical formula, which is C8H16O4, i think.
i wish you all the best! and start with AP, but start reading lots about it! and also think though every scenario. what if it gets too hot? where will you dump it? where is the next fire extinquisher? its little things that help you stay accident free.
all the best, and i wish you good luck!
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