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Old 11-06-2009, 01:16 AM
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when i was doing a nitration i had mixed up to clear liquids, and had ended up having kerosene put into a nitration bath... 65-ml sulfuric acid to 35ml 70% nitric acid. and approximately 100ml kerosene. i noticed a very weird reaction producing some heat and a yellow liquid had floated up to the top. Then it started turning brown. and bubbling. I got scared and put it out side, but minimal amount of nitrogen oxide was formed, and just floated in the vessel. and then i decided to stir it. all of it mixed and formed a very weird redish fluid, and below it, a very unnoticeable yellow. if i may ask: What the hell just happened there? and as to why i put it on this explosives page is because i may have formed a new explosive of relative use...

i try and get back to you when i try to separate it from the acids and neutralize
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:30 PM
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might have been the sulfuric acid dehydrating the kerosene, to be honest.

however i found a patent on extracting the nitrated kerosene, if this is any use to you

Patent US2597755

talks about extraction using a nitomethane solvent...blablabla

id give it a quick scan, got no time right now. sorry i cant be of more help.
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So it does exist......
but i don't think it got any less-flammable to ay the least, when a drop from a eye dropper came in contact with the bunsen burner, it rose extremely high in a yellow flame. Also the nitrogen groups were clearly there due to the fact, that when i tried to burn it in enclosed spaces, it just decomposed, but there was a vicious smelling red gas left there- nitrogen dioxide?

some physical properties i noticed are it turned out to b a milky yellow and defiantly did not dissolve in water it had floated to the top, but some globs had fallen to the bottom.

Also had sulfuric acid dehydrated it, i would think that solid carbon would be left, due to the fact that kerosene is a hydrocarbon...

And lastly, i always wondered if i could nitrate acetone, to some weird substance...it seems that everything that nitric acid comes in contact with, always is a explosive hazard or at least an oxidizer hazard
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Thats basicly what you are doing:
Megalomania's Method of Making Nitrated Petroleum

I believe btw that acetone is something that doesn't really go hand in hand with acids. Since I'm not a qualified chemist that knows these kind of things I would not be able to tell you why not, but I recall reading R&S tables saying you should NOT mix it with acids. Might go boom or splatter really badly and exothermic..
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