Where the roguesci at?

uchiacon · #1 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 07:01 AM

I am inclined to think that the bastards that control the internet have removed roguesci from operation. This is bad. This is very, very bad.
I will be very pissed off if it isn't put back up...

They obviously don't take bombshock seriously enough to worry about. I'm guessing that its the congregation of experts on the varying topics on the website that have scared them enough to close it down. And the information there was pure fucking gold too : ( .... the best on everything with opinions from the most experienced people on the net...chlorate cells, explosives and chemical sythesis all down the drain. It is truly a sad day on the internets.

shetlan · #2 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 08:37 AM

Simmer uchiacon. They might have just neglected to pay their hosting bill.

uchiacon · #3 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 09:06 AM

Dude, I've got a bad feeling it has nothing to do with the hosting bill..

shetlan · #4 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 09:10 AM

Well that could be, but there's no sense getting worked up over it when there's nothing we can do about it now.

Secondly, it's likely someone has a back-up saved somewhere.

Doc23 · #5 (**permalink**) 07-03-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by shetlan

Well that could be, but there's no sense getting worked up over it when there's nothing we can do about it now.

Secondly, it's likely someone has a back-up saved somewhere.

The RevelationX website is gone also. So that makes 2. But yes I do have a Mirror of Roguesci forums and the explosives saved. But you can download the mirror Here- x_DontTreadOnMe_x - TPB ... On the third page. If that goes down you can private message me here and I will send it to you.

_Th0r_ · #6 (**permalink**) 07-03-2009, 05:24 PM

Considering RogueSci was taken down by iDefence at one stage it's highly possible it's been removed again, or someone reported multiple DMCA violations and the host removed them. And it's also possible that there is a problem with paying for the site, since that's happened before.

death-of-light · #7 (**permalink**) 07-03-2009, 06:08 PM

what is iDefence?
I've never heard of them.

_Th0r_ · #8 (**permalink**) 07-03-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by death-of-light

what is iDefence?
I've never heard of them.

Welcome to iDefense Labs -- Managed Security Services and Information Security for Government and Fortune 500 Organizations // iDefense Labs

RS was taken down 5/6 years ago because of them.

uchiacon · #9 (**permalink**) 07-04-2009, 03:02 AM

This is when roguesci went down in 2004.
Sciencemadness Discussion Board - Powered by XMB 1.9.11

Blogs about it
able2know.org/topic/15735-1

answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090703171109AAN3nvN

"The site's account has been suspended by US Dept. of Defense order."

Fucking faggots. Fucking America, Fukin' governments. I severly doubt it will come back up again now. Fuck, I'm just so pissed off because there was a chlorate thread there that I was asking questions in and now I can't get the finer info I need.

_Th0r_ · #10 (**permalink**) 07-04-2009, 08:42 AM

RogueSci has been through a lot and unless Mega has been thrown in jail, I doubt the forum won't be coming back.

shetlan · #11 (**permalink**) 07-05-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc23

The RevelationX website is gone also.

RevX was taken down because of a terms of use violation (on what I understand was free web space). It should be back later this year - don't quote me on that though.

bloodlusta · #12 (**permalink**) 07-06-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by uchiacon

Fucking faggots. Fucking America, Fukin' governments.

This what happens when Americans allow themselves to be scared by so called "terrorists". They have allowed their own government to take away their rights to make them "safer" from the "evil terrorists". Incidentally their own gluttony and greed results in more American death through heart conditions and diabetes than any "terrorist" could hope to ever achieve. yet for some reason they fear Bin larden more then Ronald McDonnell's. Even though the later is killing more.

shetlan · #13 (**permalink**) 07-06-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodlusta

This what happens when Americans allow themselves to be scared by so called "terrorists". They have allowed their own government to take away their rights to make them "safer" from the "evil terrorists". Incidentally their own gluttony and greed results in more American death through heart conditions and diabetes than any "terrorist" could hope to ever achieve. yet for some reason they fear Bin larden more then Ronald McDonnell's. Even though the later is killing more.

This has nothing to do with government intervention lusta'. idefense is a private company, as is the company that revoked RevX's webspace, as is the company that hosted Rougesci.

None of this has anything to do with terrorism or US policy - other than yourself deciding that the two are linked.

Fayle · #14 (**permalink**) 07-07-2009, 01:40 AM

There is a reason you have torrenting sites and such located in different countries. iDefense used legal threats to tear down the sites it attacks. But it has no jurisdiction and neither does the American justice system when the servers the sites are located on are in a different country. I suggest if you have or are going to start a fringe board, move it to a server host in Sweden. The internet security laws there are absolutely outstanding, you can say phrases that would get you thrown in jail without a single infraction being put upon yourself or your account.

MurderSkillz · #15 (**permalink**) 07-07-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fayle

There is a reason you have torrenting sites and such located in different countries. iDefense used legal threats to tear down the sites it attacks. But it has no jurisdiction and neither does the American justice system when the servers the sites are located on are in a different country. I suggest if you have or are going to start a fringe board, move it to a server host in Sweden. The internet security laws there are absolutely outstanding, you can say phrases that would get you thrown in jail without a single infraction being put upon yourself or your account.

I totally agree with you on that one. We had a hacker website for years and the FBI could not do a single thing because it was in a country where there were no laws and was out of the FBI's jurisdiction.

Gregarious · #16 (**permalink**) 07-07-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

We had a hacker website for years and the FBI could not do a single thing because it was in a country where there were no laws and was out of the FBI's jurisdiction.

Sure there were laws. But freedom of speech counted for something, too. Only idiots think we can do without laws. But law enforcement should respect our freedoms, not take them away at the slightest excuse. That's what America seems to be forgetting lately.

Gregarious · #17 (**permalink**) 07-07-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shetlan

They might have just neglected to pay their hosting bill.

I really, really doubt that. Roguesci was a genuinely educational site and there are plenty of people who would gladly have contributed to its hosting costs. Heck, if the hosting bill is a problem, I'll kick in $20 myself.

Meanwhile, a lot of the site is still available via the Wayback Machine
Internet Archive Wayback Machine

uchiacon · #18 (**permalink**) 07-08-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregarious

...Only idiots think we can do without laws...

Getting something here... bombshock...bombshock...bombshockanarchist....bomb shock -> anarchist.... most of the people on bombshock think they're anarchists....hmm.. I'll take it back to the lab for more analysis...

Fuck, I cannot believe how fucking lame the people are on sciencemadness.
Ok, picture this, its like a whole load of 80yr old geriatrics trying to be boy racers at 20km/h. They are the biggest bunch of boring old farts I have ever been unlucky enough to chance across. Shit like saying "DONT use chlorates with Aluminium, magnesium, magnalium and any other magnalium powders, its too dangerous!" -.- k. Because it's not like I just set off after months of research to create a chlorate cell so I don't have to pay a considerable amount for a more dangerous oxidizer going by the name of potassium permanganate.

And then you post a question, in the area of "ok guys, wanna make chlorate, can only buy one type of anode, choices are Pt plated or MMO coated". So they completely overlook that question and start a big fucking debate about why roguesci wasn't removed by the DoD(which it was). I'm going to say it now, I fucking HATE that website, I HATE all the SHIT they have on it, I HATE the little fuckers with small penises which sit behind their computers with their zimoframes nearby and try to dictate to others dangers in the most common oxidizer in pyrotechnics. I fucking HATE their "you need permission to view the reference board" and their bullshit threads full of so much useless shit that just seems to completely miss any useful tips

Never quite realise how good something is until its gone.

CanadianPyro · #19 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fayle

There is a reason you have torrenting sites and such located in different countries. iDefense used legal threats to tear down the sites it attacks. But it has no jurisdiction and neither does the American justice system when the servers the sites are located on are in a different country. I suggest if you have or are going to start a fringe board, move it to a server host in Sweden. The internet security laws there are absolutely outstanding, you can say phrases that would get you thrown in jail without a single infraction being put upon yourself or your account.

As far as I know, Roguesci's server is not located in the USA, it's across the Ocean in a place WAY out of the FBI's jurisdiction. There's no way the site would have survived for 10 years with a US based server. As such, I believe this is a temporary issue. No need to get worked up about the loss at this point.

that guy · #20 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by uchiacon

Fuck, I cannot believe how fucking lame the people are on sciencemadness.
Ok, picture this, its like a whole load of 80yr old geriatrics trying to be boy racers at 20km/h. They are the biggest bunch of boring old farts I have ever been unlucky enough to chance across. Shit like saying "DONT use chlorates with Aluminium, magnesium, magnalium and any other magnalium powders, its too dangerous!" -.- k. Because it's not like I just set off after months of research to create a chlorate cell so I don't have to pay a considerable amount for a more dangerous oxidizer going by the name of potassium permanganate.

And then you post a question, in the area of "ok guys, wanna make chlorate, can only buy one type of anode, choices are Pt plated or MMO coated". So they completely overlook that question and start a big fucking debate about why roguesci wasn't removed by the DoD(which it was). I'm going to say it now, I fucking HATE that website, I HATE all the SHIT they have on it, I HATE the little fuckers with small penises which sit behind their computers with their zimoframes nearby and try to dictate to others dangers in the most common oxidizer in pyrotechnics. I fucking HATE their "you need permission to view the reference board" and their bullshit threads full of so much useless shit that just seems to completely miss any useful tips

Never quite realise how good something is until its gone.

I'm sure you know this but, that site is not a pyrotechnics and explosives forum. It's an amateur chemistry forum. They don't allow discussions on the practical application of explosives and aren't going to bend over backwards to help someone who is "doing this for the gunshot like detonation".

uchiacon · #21 (**permalink**) 07-11-2009, 01:04 AM

Oh but come on man, no matter how we all put this... why do we make explosives, why do we set them off. Deep down, its for the bang, the detonation. It is a k3wl thing to say, but it's why I do it, and I'm pretty sure I'm not a k3wl.

that guy · #22 (**permalink**) 07-11-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by uchiacon

Oh but come on man, no matter how we all put this... why do we make explosives, why do we set them off. Deep down, its for the bang, the detonation. It is a k3wl thing to say, but it's why I do it, and I'm pretty sure I'm not a k3wl.

Meh... I mostly make them just to see if I can find a way purely OTC, and I enjoy chemistry. If I had a good place to do dets, I would more often though.

I don't really think it's a "k3wl thing to say". After all, how many countries celebrate holidays by blowing shit up? Everybody loves a good bang. hehe.

On a side note, (and on topic) losing RS would be very sad indeed, but I've still got my fingers crossed on this one.

MurderSkillz · #23 (**permalink**) 07-11-2009, 12:10 PM

I mess with explosives because of the simple fact that a nice loud boom and dirt flying everywhere gets my heart pumping. The synths are very interesting. Especially how fast UN crystals appear right before your eyes. It's just a beautiful thing to me. If I had a place I would do more to. That is actually my main problem. I live in the suburbs but there are still houses everywhere. I got a citation this passed 4th of July for blowing shit up. When people see me on the fourth they say o god what does he have now. lol

My family tell me all the time. Get a job with Zambelli or blowing stuff up legally like in the field with demolition.

that guy · #24 (**permalink**) 07-17-2009, 04:19 AM

This is from one of the mods at RS (Alexires) according to a fellow at SM.

"It seems that a small orange was hacked twice and they pulled all their servers down (once about 3 weeks ago and the other time last week). Apparently, all servers are back online now but Mega might not have gotten around to fixing the damage, if any. That is as much as the moderators know at the moment.

It might be a case of wait out for it to come back online. There should be a reasonably up to date back up of The Forum going around (2-4 weeks old) but I can't find it atm. I'll do a mass email when I find out about it.

Don't stress just yet. Mega might not have been able to pay the bill (new financial year about now) and the site may have been suspended. No one knows just yet. The moderators are still free even if we don't know anything else. If we all suddenly disappear then start worrying."

aspireonescs · #25 (**permalink**) 07-18-2009, 11:19 AM

For the last week when I go to rougesci the 'a small orange' notice pops up but today it says firefox cannot find the url you entered. and ive emailed some of the mods but i havenot gotten a response yet. I am also worried about it being down for this long. mega normally puts up a notice saying whats going on so i am very suspicious about this. also i just found this Megalomania's Explosives Section

chaac · #26 (**permalink**) 07-22-2009, 12:41 AM

I'm a super moderator on Roguesci, and I'd like to let you all know that I've published the most recently made archive of the forum on demonoid. I can prove my identity by digital signature if absolutely necessary.

Here is the link: Demonoid.com - User log in

I'm setting up a newsletter system to distribute RS updates as they come in. If you're interested, send me an email at chaac@nym.hush.com.

AntonioJoaoGuimaraes · #27 (**permalink**) 07-26-2009, 05:47 AM

Obrigado (thanks), Chaac! I have downloaded that June archive of roguesci.org on Torrent, and I will be emailing you, with the results of my own investigations.

chaac · #28 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 06:07 PM

As many of you have noticed, roguesci.org has been down for some
time. Myself (Chaac) and another moderator (Mr. Science) have
decided that the time has come to take action, and to begin anew.
We have created a temporary board to organize members.

The URL is Temporary RS Board

This is on a free host, and it is just being used for the sake of getting
everyone together. There will be no E&W or related chemistry
discussion on the temporary board. Once we have everyone organized,
we will be opening a new site aimed at filling the void roguesci
has left behind. However, we will also now be allowing formerly
unallowed subjects such as pharmacology. The new site will be
generally be aimed more towards chemistry than explosives
specifically. If you were a member on roguesci, or were interested
in the subjects, I would like to encourage you to join the new
board.

I will post the new forum link when it is online, which will be within a week.

ninefingers · #29 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by uchiacon

Oh but come on man, no matter how we all put this... why do we make explosives, why do we set them off. Deep down, its for the bang, the detonation. It is a k3wl thing to say, but it's why I do it, and I'm pretty sure I'm not a k3wl.

The new site, as redirected by the site mentioned, is:
Phrixus Science Forums - Powered by vBulletin .

I agree, uchiacon, but I do learn/ remember my Chemistry through it. I have been in the IEEE and seen videos on demolition, CDI etc; all say what a "rush" to push the button.

Yet, I sent my resumes to a few explosives/blasting co's., and at least One was very unfriendly--it seemed like if you even hinted at liking working with explosives, they'd try to send your name to the FBI! Needless to say, I wrote them back in no uncertain terms about their attitude...
They are not getting me, so they won't know what they are missing. Lamos--why do people get into it if they don't want to "feel the rush"?

The Archive (was) at: Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire

Some fool on Ask.Com said how great RogueSci was; how Megalo was a "PhD"--bull. If he had read the rules; "PhD" is merely a rank, corresponding to how many posts. If anyone there was really a PhD; he would be too busy at work to post much--maybe on weekends. Just Chem. Techs are really hirable, now, and at $24k per year to start.
Megalo used to quote right out of Wiki and 60-yo books, word-for-word...then expect us to try it. (Some didn't work--!)

I could no longer get on that site to correct this as it was closed--some many votes for "best answer"; and that's it...even if the answer is bull.

RogueSci was whining bad for money just before the last shutdown. They had a lot of good 'dope on it. If they would have just cooled their jets, I would have given them my two coppers, also.

ethogen · #30 (**permalink**) 10-22-2009, 02:52 PM

Neither the temporary board or prixus-sci work, If theres actually forums there I cant access them. Whats the deal? Noticed tpb isnt working either..

Wtf is happening to all the quality sources?? If most of the sources are over seas then why are they still going down? To host on western server seems so foolish, dont understand why guys of your caliber would make such mistakes..