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06-20-2008, 01:13 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | FEMA Concentration Camps has everybody heard about this? this is scary stuff. FEMA has built over 800 "camps" across the USA. there is a fence around the camps and barbed wire at the top.
Hitler and his Nazi's convinced the mainstream in his country that the concentration camps were critical to keeping germany strong. has the US government convinced the mainstream people that we need these camps to keep american going???
by the way - above the gates at germany's concentration camps read: WORK IS FREEDOM.
who works more than anybody else in the world? americans
who thinks they are more free than everybody else? americans
2+2=4 wake up people!!!! | 
06-20-2008, 02:07 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | your proof is crude wordplay, do you expect people to respect your theories? |  | camps |  | 
06-20-2008, 03:46 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | camps i can't prove anything. however, google: FEMA detention camps
and you will see for yourself that they really do exist.
the question is, why? everybody thinks that FEMA(federal emergency management assistance) is for our own good. however, humanitarian efforts are low on the priority list for FEMA. their number one priority is martial law. if you saw the way FEMA agents treated american civilians in new orleans(after hurricane katrina), greensboro, KS(after a large tornado)and now people in Iowa(after flooding) you will see how the federal government is abusing their power. tackling old ladies, etc. |  | |  | 
06-20-2008, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING has everybody heard about this? this is scary stuff. FEMA has built over 800 "camps" across the USA. there is a fence around the camps and barbed wire at the top. | What? Like a prison? Yes, we know about those, though FEMA doesn't have the jurisdiction, the motivation or the budget to be undertaking such an operation. FEMA exists to deal with emergencies - typically natural disasters (Hurricane Katrina would be one that is fresh in everyone's mind) but also for artificial disasters (such as assisting with the response and aftermath of September 11, 2001). In addition, I would assume (based upon my experiences with the agencies that do the same thing here) that they are also involved in preparing communities for disasters and the like.
Why they would build and run prisons is beyond me, though - they would have nothing to gain. I'll say outright that you're either lying, or easily misled. Quote:
Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING i can't prove anything. however, google: FEMA detention camps and you will see for yourself that they really do exist. | Just because it is on the internet does not mean that it is true. Ever heard of a prank, or an April Fools' joke? I had a brief look at what does come up on Google for that search term, and none of those sources could be considered anywhere near reliable. An online tabloid at best - and that's worse than a paper tabloid, because anyone can throw something online, and most people don't have a clue what goes on in the real world. Quote:
Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING however, humanitarian efforts are low on the priority list for FEMA. their number one priority is martial law. | The role of FEMA isnt simply to hand out food and water, and to provide shelter. The role of FEMA is also to safeguard the community, infrastructure and effectively the country before, during and after an emergency. From what I understand of the Katrina aftermath, looting (as an example) was rampant - this is not something that a community or a country should be proud of. If these people insist on causing trouble, then they need to be dealt with, whether that be via incarceration until things are back to normal (because many people will act very differently in unfamiliar situations such as emergencies), or by shooting them.
Personally, and depending on the situation at the time, I would not be against ordering a shoot-to-kill policy against those who would take advantage of others in such a serious emergency. If they're refusing to be civil, and insist on acting like animals, then you deal with them like you would any other trouble-causing animal - you put it down. Quote:
Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING if you saw the way FEMA agents treated american civilians in new orleans(after hurricane katrina), greensboro, KS(after a large tornado)and now people in Iowa(after flooding) you will see how the federal government is abusing their power. tackling old ladies, etc. | I haven't heard anything about what you've mentioned here? Sources? Online news reports? Anything? Quote:
Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING i can't prove anything. | You are not going to last long on these forums if you continue to post rumours, half-truths or anything you can't prove. I suggest, if you want to remain a member of this community, to break that habit. Seek reputable sources for your claims before you post them.
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06-20-2008, 03:56 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | proof go to UAFF ENTRANCE PAGE and click on Fema Camps. watch the youtube videos for yourself and then come to your own conclusion. that's what i thought until i began to look at the evidence and listen to people like alex jones(radio political guy) | 
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Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING go to UAFF ENTRANCE PAGE and click on Fema Camps. watch the youtube videos for yourself and then come to your own conclusion. that's what i thought until i began to look at the evidence and listen to people like alex jones(radio political guy) | []
Im sorry but i dont think that we can call upon "youtube" to settle a dispute, as "truthful" as it is.
Try CNN dot com cause if FEMA as got its camps up to 800!!!!! CNN would be all over their ass. |  | |  | 
06-21-2008, 02:54 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | First these "concentration camps" are a result of Rex 84, Rex 84 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and they could be used to control US citizens, much like what happened to Japanese Americans during WWII when they were put in concentration camps "to protect" them. But these camps are more nebulous of their use and I am not sure of their actual number. In regard to the Japanese, Quote: |
Originally Posted by Executive Order 10990 WHEREAS the President is authorized by the Act to establish by Executive order a safety council composed of representatives of Government departments and agencies to serve as an advisory body to the Secretary of Labor in furtherance of the safety program carried out by the Secretary pursuant to section 33 of the Act and to undertake such other measures as he deems proper to prevent injuries and accidents to persons covered by the Act: | this seems like a basis by saying that they are being protected from the rest of the populace. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Random The role of FEMA isnt simply to hand out food and water, and to provide shelter. The role of FEMA is also to safeguard the community, infrastructure and effectively the country before, during and after an emergency. From what I understand of the Katrina aftermath, looting (as an example) was rampant - this is not something that a community or a country should be proud of. If these people insist on causing trouble, then they need to be dealt with, whether that be via incarceration until things are back to normal (because many people will act very differently in unfamiliar situations such as emergencies), or by shooting them.
Personally, and depending on the situation at the time, I would not be against ordering a shoot-to-kill policy against those who would take advantage of others in such a serious emergency. If they're refusing to be civil, and insist on acting like animals, then you deal with them like you would any other trouble-causing animal - you put it down. | Yeah, they looted because FEMA and other national aid was complete shit and they needed food and water. Most of the people left in New Orleans was black people, so it was just black people being black people. After Hurrican Katrina I heard some celebrity say that it was better to go down there and volunteer rather than to give money because that kind of aid wasn't reaching the people.
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06-21-2008, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jrly Yeah, they looted because FEMA and other national aid was complete shit and they needed food and water. | Well, I've never been satisfied with my perception of any government's competence, at any level - so it would be expected that the supplied aid wouldn't meet demand. That said, from my understanding (and this is from what I have heard via the media - I was not there on the ground), the looting during the Katrina aftermath wasn't just food and water, it was (at times) anything that wasn't bolted down. Looting of food and water during a shortage, when it is necessary for survival and there isn't enough supplied by authorities, is justifiable. Stealing a TV isn't. Quote:
Originally Posted by jrly After Hurrican Katrina I heard some celebrity say that it was better to go down there and volunteer rather than to give money because that kind of aid wasn't reaching the people. | I think I remember hearing something similar, but after this much time I couldn't name the person. As for the suggestion in the quote, I fully support it and agree with it, for emergencies in general. Earlier this year, I was flown from my home to one of the areas in Australia that had suffered major flooding, to do my bit during the recovery phase of the emergency - a full week, unpaid.
Money helps, but it only goes so far. People donating their time and their skills to help others get back on their feet goes so much further. If you have the opportunity to help someone in need during or after an emergency, do it - there's no better way to make a difference.
But, that's off-topic.
While I haven't read the Act that jrly is referring to, I can believe its existance and understand the reasons for its existance. That doesn't mean that FEMA is running "concentration camps", though - it means that the president, via many of the US government's agencies, is ordering the incarceration of those persons who are causing civil disturbances - just like a prison. The difference is that in an emergency, things need to be done then and there, and occasionally in a makeshift fashion. |  |  | forget fema |  | 
06-21-2008, 08:58 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | forget fema FEMA is not what you should be speaking of if your making parallels to concentration camps. Look at guantanamo bay. |  | camps |  | 
06-27-2008, 04:58 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | camps if you need to see more on these camps go to Watch Free Documentaries Online - DocumentaryWire.com and watch some free documentaries for yourself. click on: CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS BY ALEX JONES
alex jones is a radio talk show host and he has a website: Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! is an independent news source. whoever told me to watch CNN is obviously retarded. CNN and Fox News are propaganda machines for the US government. do you really think they would come out and say, "hey everybody we are going to put people into concentration camps for slave labor to pay off our national debt" lol
and by the way i can back everything up... |  | |  | 
06-27-2008, 07:09 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | "go to UAFF ENTRANCE PAGE and click on Fema Camps. watch the youtube videos for yourself and then come to your own conclusion. that's what i thought until i began to look at the evidence and listen to people like alex jones(radio political guy)"
I have a hard time trusting anything on the internet too. Otherwise I'd be with you on the subject. If your are really worried about forms of government control we're unaware of then you'd be suspicious of any information you receive that doesn't come from your own observations.
Check out the Navy's document entitled "War.com: the Internet and Psychological Operations". I requested it via the Freedom of Information Act and they we're polite enough to oblige me. I'm sure you can find it elsewhere if you don't trust the feds, but I'll send you a pdf if you'd like.
I wouldn't put it past a well organized government funded detection team to set up a website like that just to see who's interested in anti-patriotism. Nor would I put it past a highly motivated one to create a persona like its creator for the same purpose. Disinformation. Either way we're never going to get the full story of what goes on behind the scenes. The military technology is always eleven years ahead of the civilian! Thats a long time in technology terms. So I quit devoting myself to conspiracy theories, futile and worrisome. As long as the majority refuses to hold its leaders accountable for its actions not much is going to change in liberty's favor.
So if imperialism really gets to you, I don't know what else to say but, move to some undeveloped country somewhere and hope it doesn't spread.
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Originally Posted by ANARCHYisKING who works more than anybody else in the world? americans
who thinks they are more free than everybody else? americans
2+2=4 wake up people!!!! | ummm that is completly unbased, dumb patriotic and kind of offending to non-americans
to you really think other countries don't work as hard or "feel as free" (whatever that means?
and if your theory is taken out of google
you might wanna have more proof of it before you come screaming it here | 
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Originally Posted by jrly Most of the people left in New Orleans was black people, so it was just black people being black people. | and that is extremely racist | 
06-28-2008, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vlucasv and that is extremely racist | That is not what I was saying and is taken out of context.
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07-01-2008, 10:13 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | im part of a volunteer fire dept were i live and our chief has had over 50 years in the emeragncy service. fire,ems and fema and was assisnt head of qurdnation for cali. (bad spelling sorry) for fema and said that thay are used for large scale training demolation testing and hazmat decontamantion and also do you realy think fema has enough finacial support for any concentration camps? if you look germany had a pretty good econmy be4 it started imprisoning jews with american money slowly loseing its value you realy think political figures wouldnt relize doing the same thing would be a stupid mistake also who would they inprison ? i mean there is racism but america is like the most diverse nation i mean we have a african, a women and a whole bunch of wacko white guys running for president (no offence to any one) i mean but comon people dont belive everything that is online not only that but i have personly read records from california state that show were large scale i talking tons of radiactive waste have been sealed and buried also they build building and burn them down and such for training and semanars (sorry for spelling again) |  |  | |  | 
07-01-2008, 10:31 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | ooh and for whoever said people were just raiding in new orleans becuz fema wouldnt help them haha..... i was in new orleans not 5 hours after rescue missions were started and yes people were stealing food and water and yes fema cant suply an entire major city its under funded BUT PEOPLE WERE NOT DOING THIS TO SUPPORT BASIC NEEDS there were people going into walmart comign out with computers,tvs,cds and dvds then trying to sell em to people and its also very VERY hard to help people who act like crazy rampant f***ing beast there were seven of us in a pass out group to give basic rations of food water and formula to people who didnt have any and we just gave 9 days rations to a family 2 guys a wife and one teen around 17 adn they were already out of major flooding and headed to a relief van RIGHT AFTER THEY BEAT a person who was helping us and took his and several more of our rations they were fond later selling them to an elderly lady and a small child with her saying "they worked with red cross but had to charge" |  | |
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