The Conspiracy Thread

DemonSpawn · #1 (**permalink**) 10-10-2008, 01:47 AM

9/11, Al Aqsa, Templar Knights, International Banker Conspiracy, Religious Coverup, Blackwater, Elvis(dead?) these are only a few of the almost infinte number of conspiracies paranoid (and sometimes correct) humans. I am a huge fan of this line of thought and I was hoping to find some others who are as entertained by and interested in these as i am. emplain your favourite/ most rediculous theory. I know its a broad topic and encompasses much more than should be encompassed by one single thread and if this thread starts to overflow with paranoia and truth it can split off into smaller more specific threads. But for the time being I just want to see what you all think. to get it started:
YouTube - Satanism & Freemasonry
Freemasonry and its ties to Satanism have fun- Demon

EDIT: The thread is not just for posting the title of a conspiracy theory (like "the christian church descended from a egyptian sun cult") but to go a bit further and either provide insight or an opinion on it.

numerator · #2 (**permalink**) 10-12-2008, 09:49 AM

you could discuss the Roman Catholic Church descending from an Egyptian sun cult

FerretBone · #3 (**permalink**) 10-12-2008, 12:49 PM

I believe that all the posts here at bombshock actually come from only two people. You and one other person.

Steve_TPF · #4 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 08:09 AM

The other person presumably being you?

Draven · #5 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 04:33 PM

Favorite Conspiracy Theories (I think are at least somewhat correct);

1. Space Aliens Conducting Human Experiementation:
Do I believe in space aliens? No, but I believe the most creditable cases of "alien obduction" to be the result of the government conducting experiements on its own citizens. That explains why the Alien implants and the RF micro chips people are tagging their animals with look the same.

2. The NWO (New World Order):
I am a partial believer in a controling party no directly connected to the government. Its fairly common to see in history that various members of the "elite" or those who consider themselves "elite" have used elitist organization, fraternities and so called "secret societies" to alienate themselves from the "common man" and allow themselves and their families to remain in control.

Fayle · #6 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 05:38 PM

the 23 enigma is the only conspiracy the makes sense to me. It is based on that everything in existence is linked by the number 23. you should take a look see

The Number 23 Frequency Enigma

DeathToSociety · #7 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 05:50 PM

It's interesting thinking about these conspiracy theories because I see them as entertainment, it's funny to watch documentaries on them and realize that people actually believe this shit. Take David Icke for example, this guy actually believes the world is run by fucking lizards.

I once watched this one documentary where these guys broke into a place called the bohemian grove, it looked pretty real to me. Later I saw another video where the same guys try and interview some politician who went there, the politician (cant remember name) at first tried to deny its existence, then when the guys told him that they broke in there, he got all pissed off, which leads me to believe there is some truth to it.
Here's the documentary
It's pretty boring, I would recommend just watching them explain what the bohemian grove is, then skip to near the end when they break in. The rest of it is just filler.

Hetfield · #8 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 06:24 PM

If ind it hard to beleive that out of billions of stars in billions in of galaxies throughout the universe, we are the only form of intelligent life, or even civilisation.

numerator · #9 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 10:42 PM

even if there's no intelligent life there's gotta be at least some bacteria or something to that effect out in the vast expanses of the universe

FerretBone · #10 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hetfield

If ind it hard to beleive that out of billions of stars in billions in of galaxies throughout the universe, we are the only form of intelligent life, or even civilisation.

I read today that we are scaning earth for life. No joke we are using a space probe around Venus controled by Eroupe to look back down on Earth to see what life on a known plant would even look like. From Venus, we can see the same elements on Earth as we see on Venus from Earth.
Why we didnt think of that sooner.

I'm sure somewhere in the universe there is life. More likey not in our life time though. Given the large timeline the universe has been running on, There could be millions of earth like planets with life and died out long before we ever poped up. And I doubt any Government here will ever have the brains and intell to discover it, much less hide it from us.

Steve: I can't say for sure if the other person is me, as I don't know how many alter egos I have. Plus, my "other I" doesn't tell me his internet habbits.

DemonSpawn · #11 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 12:46 AM

to think that we're the only form of sentient life in the universe is absolutely crazy. if you think that we have only closely observed 9 planets 8 if you dont count pluto or ten if you count plut and planet X(Planet X, Nibiru, Ancient Astronauts, NASA, UFO's). and only one possible two of them seems as if they could ever support human life (earth and mars). that gives us a ratio of 1:5 planets just in out solar system that have (or had) potential to produce life. even though only one solar system is a bit of a small realm to go on to determine this ratio if the ratio of possibly livable planets is any where near this (1:6-10,000) and we have seen that there are thousands of other solar systems etc. with vary numbers of planets in each then even with a ratio like 1:10,000 there must be other life. it just seems a bit rediculous to think that earth is the only planet that is capapble of producing sentient beings. thats just my spin on life in the universe, i' not a scientist or anyhting this is just my logical reasoning feel free to bring evidence to the contrary.

Mauler3050 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 05:30 AM

I dare say i enjoy the 9/11 pentagon conspiracies, but i believe we would just be rehashing zeitgeist and lose change if we were to argue about such things. I'm interested more in NWO stuff, the Amero, Microchipping, things of that sort.

My only problem is is almost all conspiracies seem to talk of NWO since even moonshot conspiracies from back in the early 70's. Every conspiracy leads to some form of NWO it seems, and i just don't buy that. Because back in the early 70's they seemed to think that it was always in the next 5-10 years. And even now, most of the NWO conspiracy theorists think that NWO is something that will be even more establised in the next 5-10 years. I need a little more than fake organizations and non cited claims. But i believe that there are a lot of other things at work with the higher powers of this world then what we see. I guess the next 5 or 10 years will tell :P

Mauler3050 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 05:32 AM

Oh an Hetfield I agree with you, the belief of no other life in the universe to me is just ludicrous. It is almost statistically impossible with how expansive the universe is. I like the immortal technique quote in the sig, he actually was the one who turned me on to the 9/11 conspiracy theory. "bush an bin laden are a part of the same 7 headed dragon"

Persian · #14 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 06:43 AM

But it IS possible that we are the only life in the universe.

Unlikely, but still possible.

Steve_TPF · #15 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FerretBone

Steve: I can't say for sure if the other person is me, as I don't know how many alter egos I have. Plus, my "other I" doesn't tell me his internet habbits.

Not bad mate, not bad at all...

Re. life on other planets: Yes I think it's possible, but that's hardly a "conspiracy", unless they have contacted us and our respective governments are hushing it up. But what would any space-traveling race want with a bunch or comparative primitives?

Persian · #16 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 09:11 AM

Well we send radio messages through space to try to communicate with other races...so if they had communicated with us in that way, they might not neccesarily be a 'space-travelling race', they could be just as advanced as us.

And yes, you're right, it's not a conspiracy. The conspiricy theory is that we have been contacted/discovered aliens and the government is covering it up and hiding it from the general population.

DemonSpawn · #17 (**permalink**) 10-15-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mauler3050

I like the immortal technique quote in the sig, he actually was the one who turned me on to the 9/11 conspiracy theory. "bush an bin laden are a part of the same 7 headed dragon"

immortal teqhnique is a great place for people who'd like to hear an intensely smart conspuiracy theorist rap about his vision. look at the songs point of no return and internally bleeding to name a few.

also i like a good 9/11 conspiracy as well zeitgiest...amazing. whats your favorite theory: the govt(cheney and wolfawitz, the cia, sector 6 Etc.), aliens or maybe actual terrorists did it (no way).

AngryAngry · #18 (**permalink**) 10-16-2008, 08:00 PM

Hmmm I like the idea (sounds weird?) of the US government genetically modifying humans and other animals in area-51-like underground bases. In fact Dreamland has been drawing my attention for quite a long time now... I don't believe that there is some alien form in there at all, but I neither believe they are trying to create a new sugarfree pepsi formula or something.
And one of the most ridiculous conspiracies are IMO:
-BUSH is an alien
-World Trade Center collapsed because of a UFO attack lol i think there's a video on Youtube.
Now that I've come to YouTube, I'll tell you what I think of flying dishes: rubbish. All videos with 'proof' are fake. And if they weren't, how come I've never seen any of those green pals fly around? I have NEVER seen ANY UFO in the air.

Oh and If i can ask, what do you guys think of Cropcircles? I mean the real big ones (like this one)were no footsteps are found and stuff. Not the ones were a couple of teenagers dragged some pieces of wood around to create some simple shape.

Steve_TPF · #19 (**permalink**) 10-18-2008, 10:57 AM

That's a pretty impressive crop circle. Must have used a tractor.

Beyond · #20 (**permalink**) 10-18-2008, 05:00 PM

I love virtually any conspiracy theory regarding the Federal Reserve or the Central Bank. I have no idea why, either.

Draven · #21 (**permalink**) 10-18-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beyond

I love virtually any conspiracy theory regarding the Federal Reserve or the Central Bank. I have no idea why, either.

Probably the same reason I do; they are often the most/best researched...

DemonSpawn · #22 (**permalink**) 10-18-2008, 06:45 PM

the banking conspiracies are some of the best i do agree. some of them are a litle bit crazy (but what else can you expect form conspiracy). my personal favorites are banking conspiracies that have to do with religion and secret societies: the jewish banker conspiracy, the illuminati/stonemasons puppeting/being the main investors in the national bank (rockefeller, fairchild etc.). anything like that.

media conspiracy much?

FerretBone · #23 (**permalink**) 10-19-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Beyond

I love virtually any conspiracy theory regarding the Federal Reserve or the Central Bank. I have no idea why, either.

Beyond,
What do you think about the Zeitgeist films on the Federal Reserve?
I have not done any research on this subject, but my amazing Instinct has fired numerous red flares while watching this crap.

film 1 of 5.
YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 1 of 5)

Beyond · #24 (**permalink**) 10-19-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FerretBone

Beyond,
What do you think about the Zeitgeist films on the Federal Reserve?
I have not done any research on this subject, but my amazing Instinct has fired numerous red flares while watching this crap.

film 1 of 5.
YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 1 of 5)

The part about income tax was complete bullshit.

Wikipedia can explain why better than I can.

jrly · #25 (**permalink**) 10-19-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve_TPF

That's a pretty impressive crop circle. Must have used a tractor.

Most of the famous ones don't have tractor marks either.

sacrednines · #26 (**permalink**) 10-20-2008, 02:52 AM

Conspiracies are fun to discuss, but I find what's actually provable and generally accepted to be no less outrageous. Nevertheless, it all comes down to the lengths of control one group will exhort over another. Paranoia or revelation, I find no other use for conspiracy theories than to make for an interesting conversation. Who here knows a bit of A.A. (ancient astronaut) theory?

Steve_TPF · #27 (**permalink**) 10-20-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jrly

Most of the famous ones don't have tractor marks either.

The picture in the link had existing tracks from planting/spraying that could have been used by someone wishing to hide their tracks. The formation was too detailed to be a "natural phenomenon" and frankly I think aliens have better things to do. If they wanted to communicate they could always use a radio.

pyrokitty14 · #28 (**permalink**) 10-20-2008, 11:17 PM

i am a believer of the NWO just as Draven is. I think it is entirely possible.

This is my favorite theory: Zombies!!!!

I personally think that these enemies of humanity are real. I think the government has been covering up the fact that zombies are real. If you think about it long enough you start to understand that it is entirely possible for zombies to exist without us even knowing. Just think there are what, 1 million viruses in the world today with hundreds more being discovered every day? Just think one of them may cause people to turn into zombies. think.

AngryAngry · #29 (**permalink**) 11-01-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrokitty14

i am a believer of the NWO just as Draven is. I think it is entirely possible.

This is my favorite theory: Zombies!!!!

I personally think that these enemies of humanity are real. I think the government has been covering up the fact that zombies are real. If you think about it long enough you start to understand that it is entirely possible for zombies to exist without us even knowing. Just think there are what, 1 million viruses in the world today with hundreds more being discovered every day? Just think one of them may cause people to turn into zombies. think.

By saying "think", don't you mean "imagine" ? Because that would make more sense.
I think that we won't see any 'real' zombies walking around soon...

--

OK, here's something serious.
Apparently, Youtube has been removing videos containing 'sensitive' UFO-related information.
This came to my mind when I tried to find a video I had already seen, so I could show it to my brother... But I just couldn't find it. So I googled 'youtube ufo video removed' and found multiple claims [1, 2, 3(=myself)] by multiple sources related to this subject.

Have you heard anything about this? Have you seen youtube videos being removed lately? Why do you think Youtube does this? The only reason I can think of is pressure by the Government.

Steve_TPF · #30 (**permalink**) 11-03-2008, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pyrokitty14

If you think about it long enough you start to understand that it is entirely possible for zombies to exist without us even knowing. Just think there are what, 1 million viruses in the world today with hundreds more being discovered every day? Just think one of them may cause people to turn into zombies. think.

There may be a virus that causes people to grow wings too... I'll assume this is a pretty lame attempt at a joke. If you want to suggest that zombies exist then you'll have to do do better than "what if."

AngryAngry: Damned if I know. Since the video has already been seen and downloaded by countless people I don't know what anyone would gain by removing it. One of the links you provided was to a clip that dates to the '80s. Can't see why it would be sensitive now.