Registering a stolen vehicle

[mexicoman100]

How do you register a stolen vehicle under your name?
Which state would be the best to do so?
and what would i have to do, what would be the reason, etc?

[jrly]

Find a car of like model and year and color in a junkyard. Buy the junkyard car cheap, and switch out the plates. That sould work for registering it.

You could also try forging the registration, or whatever. Take a registration thing and copy it, and white out the stuff and change it.

[mexicoman100]

That's a good idea, for cars of an older model and make... but what about any recent cars? 2000's and on?

[Chronntec]

for newer cars you should check impound lots as well as junk yards, a lot of new cars that get in accidents sit in the local impound lot for a long time, and the owners just don't bother paying the fees because the car is totaled. A lot of these places will let u put private bids on cars, after a certain time if no one comes they will let u buy it. Then just switch out the vin plates.

good luck

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

Junk yards work really well for it..All I ever used to find there were ricers though

[auto493398]

Some steal the car and find a matching vehicle from another state, then they flip the vin tag on the dash over and forge the number from the other car onto it, forge a title and sell it for cash to someone.
You can use a rivet gun to reattach the vin or if your skilled you could probably just print out a vin sticker and carefully attach it over the existing vin, either way i'd get rid of the car as soon as possible
And dont forget the tag some cars have attached in the door jam

[deadlyvenom]

how bout for motorcycles persay i were to get my hands on a new crotch rocket...is the any ways to get some plates for it and a set of keys

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by deadlyvenom

how bout for motorcycles persay i were to get my hands on a new crotch rocket...is the any ways to get some plates for it and a set of keys

First off, most of what's been offered thus far has been horrible advice.

1: In essence, you're going to clone an out of state bike and register it.

2: Much like a car, motorcycles are registered in individual states. After you've obtained the stolen bike, you're going to need to find a similar bike (make model and year) in another state (craigslist, ect.).

3: When you've found the bike, you're going to need the VINs on the out of state bike. With these in hand, you'll need to accurately forge the VINs on your own bike to match the out of state model.

4: Replace the existing VIN tags with your new ones (DO NOT cover the old tags, REMOVE THEM).

5: Register the bike as you would any other.

As for keys, you're going to need to look-up the specs for buying new ignition parts for that model. Once you have the right one, replacing the ignition switch isn't hard (though I've never tried it on a bike). The switch should come with a brand new set of keys - so you'll be set.

[spunone69]

Even though vehicles are registered locally in each individual state, the "hot list" of stolen vehicles is circulated throughout all 50 states to Law Enforcement and to each DMV...so be very careful when trying to "switch" VIN numbers. On newer cars they have VIN numbers on the dash, doors, frame, and engine block...If you do happen to find a matching car on Craigslist from someone in a different state, simply ask him for the VIN number and plate number and say you need it to run a CarFax report...if they really need to sell the vehicle, they'll give it up!!

[Ventanator]

Getting the VIN stuff from a junkyard works, because I know lots of people that do that when buying older vehicles.

Also, you can register for a lost title. It would probably (read: definitely) not be a good idea to do this for a stolen vehicle though.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by Ventanator

Getting the VIN stuff from a junkyard works, because I know lots of people that do that when buying older vehicles.

Getting VINs from junkyards "sort of" works.
If you're only dealing with one car every few months, nobody is going to notice; but junkyard registration isn't a long term solution for anyone trying to make a career (or even a hobby) of this.

In most states, cars in junkyards are there because they've been declared "salvage" or "junk" cars (CA also has the "lemon law" but I don't think that applies here). For quick definitions:
Salvage: Totalled with extensive physical damage.
Junked: No longer operable/partially dismantled.

If you want to register a stolen car as though it was a "salvage" car, you need to:
1: Buy the salvage car from the junkyard (and obtain the salvage certificate, endorsed to you).
2: You will also need the appropriate Bills of Sale and "Statement of Facts" for the vehicle.
3: Next is the vehicle inspection.
The vehicle inspection is in place both to make sure the car is safe to drive and to make sure it's not a stolen car being passed off as a repair.

If you pass the vehicle inspection, you're pretty well in the clear.

The process is a bit more complex for "Junked" vehicles, so I'll skip that for now; but my point is that this entire process is time consuming and risky. To register any significant number of vehicles annually, one must essentially operate as though he was a legitimate vehicle restoration company - as it's rather suspicious for a private citizen to regularly register vehicles that he claims to have restored from Salvage condition.

Originally Posted by Ventanator

Also, you can register for a lost title. It would probably (read: definitely) not be a good idea to do this for a stolen vehicle though.

Registering for a lost title doesn't do you any good. The vehicle is still registered to it's owner, his name is on the real papers.

If you want to steal a car and actually be able to do something with it, you need to use out of state information and if possible, sell the vehicle in a third state (ie: Steal in CA, clone from AZ, sell in TX).

[seventy7]

Originally Posted by auto493398

And dont forget the tag some cars have attached in the door jam

It's worth mentioning that there are several hidden areas the VIN is etched in. These vary for manufacturers and are mostly secret.

[deadlyvenom]

alright so if i buy a junked bike from a junk yard...get the plates under my name and all the other paper work....

and i go "find" a bike of similar model and make...the switch out the frames and put the new vin numbers on then buy a new ingnition switch that would be a pretty good plan except for some small details i havent worked out yet...right?

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by deadlyvenom

alright so if i buy a junked bike from a junk yard...get the plates under my name and all the other paper work....

Don't bother with the junk yard crap, just go on craigslist and find an out of state bike (it'll take you ten minutes and won't cost you anything).

Originally Posted by deadlyvenom

and i go "find" a bike of similar model and make

No, you find a bike of the SAME model and make and year.
It needs to be the same bike. The VINs will tell the DMV what kind of bike it is as well as the model and year - if it's wrong, RED FLAG.

Originally Posted by deadlyvenom

...the switch out the frames and put the new vin numbers on

There is no need to switch out the frames (in the junkyard method or otherwise), I have no idea where that came from.

When you need to copy the VINs, look for internet sellers that produce cloned VIN tags, there are plenty out there.

Originally Posted by deadlyvenom

then buy a new ingnition switch

Preferably from a third party rather than buying directly from the manufacturer.

Originally Posted by deadlyvenom

that would be a pretty good plan except for some small details i havent worked out yet...right?

Other than the parts where you overcomplicated it or inserted aspects that where never mentioned.

This isn't complicated.

Example: Let's say I acquired a 2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R.
I check ebay for another. This one is in another state, so it will do: Kawasaki : eBay Motors (item 120530303841 end time Feb-19-10 14:09:19 PST)

The VIN is: JKAEXEA137A023955

I then have a clone VIN tag produced using this information.

I'll also need to photoshop the appropriate forms to give myself a title with the fitting information.

I'll then need to call the cheapest insurance company I can find (Like "1-800-General") and get the appropriate insurance forms filled to get my proof of insurance.

I then take the (fake) title, along with my proof of insurance and license down to the DMV. The bike is inspected, the fees are paid, and the bike is registered.

[seventy7]

To add on that idea, it might be even safer to go to a site like ebay.ca (if you're in the U.S.) to get 'your' new VIN.

[yungballa]

hey just quick question, i live in canada, per say i did find a non legit car or say i bought it off somebody, would it be easier to just get temp plates for the car? doesn't some places not check VIN numbers, so should i just stick with temp plates or what?