New Challenge !!! Best way to get through a wall !

[grindmoney]

Ive posted this is the theft forum and the pyro, as i think both could offer some advice.

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OK so this might seem strange. But let me set it up. Imagine a wall, where the only access is to go through the wall.
You cannot make any noise as it is in a residential area, and doing the job at night is pretty much the only option. The wall is a fairly standard set up(brick on cement) and not particularly thick.. Just a normal wall by normal standards.
How would one get inside it.
The opening only needs to be big enough to fit ones shoulders through.


ok so my thoughts are as follows:
1. As the wall is not right on the walking track it is unlikely to be examined closly, possibly only someones gaze might glance it over for a split second. Because of this i think covering it with a poster of the wall (looking the same as the wall surrounding) might be alright to disguise it.
2. I first thought that the best way would probably be to quietly and slowly chip the cement away in a square and then pull the whole section out, but can anyone see any pyro applications that might help.


ok so any thoughts.
and burrowing unnder the wall is not an option :P

[db]

Don't know how well this would work but perhaps taking a bench grinder to the wall. Doing some drilling might help make chiseling faster.

[Kaos-theory]

ram raid

[jrly]

Why don't you go over?

[hamster dood]

Originally Posted by jrly

Why don't you go over?

Probably because it's the side of a building. :roll:

Or maybe he wants to do it for fun.

[grindmoney]

Because: It is apart of a building with intense security, although the room im trying to get into doesnt have this security. long story, but yeah going through is the only option.
but really im just doing it for fun.

So basically chipping away is the only option we can think of ?
remember cant make noise !

the guys in pyro suggested i apply a chem to dissolve.

[rimp]

i Havent tried this but it sounds logical.
drill a hole in between the bricks, stick a bolt or rebar in it, get something that will vibrate the bolt strongly loosening the brick to be pulled out.
i suggest a recipacating saw rigged with the bolt

[Chronntec]

it depends how quiet you have to be, and how much time u have, you could use a drill, drill holes about every inch, then just get a little crowbar and brake out ur little square, if it was me I would use a hole saw, cut out a nice hole then get a nice long crowbar, that way you could just pry out a hole fairly quietly with a large crowbar, once u have your first hole, wich you would chissel or drill, prying out bricks it really really really easy with enough leverage.
And if your trying to cover it up, please dont use a poster, that would be stupid. The light wouldnt land on it properly, all the grooves where the mortar is would normaly catch the light and have a slight shadow, if you used a poster there would be a small area that looks way way different, someone will notice, the best thing to do to cover it up is to just use bricks, the same bricks as the building, get a small amount of cement mortar, and just replace the wall obviously using very little mortar so you can easily break it out whenever you want.

Good luck, hope this helps

[stubaw]

Well couldn't you use thermite? Surely it would burn through the mortar, and If you set up a kind of awning off the building so that you were covered it could work quite well. You would probably have to pack the thermite into tubing as you would with det cord then light one end and stand well back, because thermite would burn straight through flesh and bone!

[Hephaestus]

you might do some research on the bricks and mortar to see if they have any weakness, or what kind of chemical would disolve the mortar.

[Core Entropy]

If you can get a big enough hole out put a jack inside and make some cracks in the concrete filling around it then jack it so it cracks quicker, every other idea has already been said.

[civil disobedience]

core, maybe you should explain how he'll get the hole big enough first? ^^

[Core Entropy]

That would make sense thank you civil. Well personally i would at night chisil away at the wall bit by bit but not with a hammer and chisil but with just a sharp tool and when i needed to leave i would stick a sticky poster or something over it that can be removed easily, then after chisiling the right size i would insert the jack and keep turning it so it added pressure, and then release pressure. This would wear away at the concrete. Sorry about my informativness there.

[Bahr]

Ok first off I made a stupid post on here a while ago I see that its been deleted but I said get buggs bunny to run through the wall so im sorry about being a smart ass.

But seriously now, work on one brick for awhile and after you get the first one out the rest will be easy. after A while if you strong enough you will be able just to yank the bricks out with a crow bar or something.

[The Guru]

get anything uhhhhh, wedge like and a hammer.

Wrap the wedge in a garb, or like a shirt of cotton the hammer between the bricks. Itll take a while but itll be more quite then any of the stupid ideas in here.

Thermite, your kidding right?

[angelofdeath]

get some kind of siliencd rifle (m4,m14, maybe an ak if you can find a silencer) buy full metal jacket ammunition or armor piercing ammo and shoot the wall away

[Core Entropy]

Haha i like angelofdeath's idea.

But seriously i believe your best bet would be one brick at a time and when it gets too early in the morning put them back and cover with a poster because by the sound of this its gonna be something that needs time to make work and plus if the building is this highly watched and security is tight then your gonna want a quick escape. so make a BIG hole.

[StressofBliss]

I see where your going with it, the poster idea is good, but the whole secret is kind of blown away with how much noise it would take to get through a non-thin non-hollow non-hollow wall.

also brick walls architecturally don't always led well to small holes, you'd want to be real careful that the whole damn thing didn't collapse.

if you still wanted to go through with it, I'd say your going to have to either use a big hammer, or look for weakness in the grit between the bricks, chisel away at anything you find and if you can, eventually pull one out then out the others one at a time until the hole is big enough.

[Bolderz]

well most rocks and such forth crack under extreme tempertures so idk heat it up with thermit tourch w/e u got then aplie dry ice idk if it would work but hey its a idea try it out on ur neighors bricks house or somthing if u dont like them or just get some brick