Electronic Keypad on Gun safe

[triekkola]

Hey everyone,

I'm staring at a gun safe right now, with an electronic keypad. I need some help opening this bitch, that is if you're willing to offer advice

Before I start I should mention that I cannot use any type of Brute force methods on opening it. So the usual ways are out, creativity is now the only hope.

There is a phone line that comes out of the safe and connects to the keypad, which twists off the front of the safe door.

This is the safe:

http://www.safeandvaultstore.com/thu...xl&w=300&h=300

It is an American Security safe, on the keypad it says AMSEC ESL 10. I have done hours of searching for special codes etc. And I'm almost at my wits end.

If anyone has any good ideas on obtaining fingerprints from a surface like this, it's plastic-ish shit. I don't even know.

I was thinking of a fluorescent ink and using black light to see which numbers have been touched. But I'm going to try using powders right now if anyone has experience with this field it would help alot.

Thanks!

[DemonSpawn]

due to the disablement of his account our resident locksmith is currently on a bombshock vacation if you would like to get his assistance on this problem (which i assure you he will have some input on) you can go to the site he is currently moderating which is Revelationx29a.com

*not trying to steal members just trying to offer help

[triekkola]

Thanks I'll check it out.

Oh yeah, Immortal Technique is the shit

[pyrion]

it sounds as if you have the gun safe in your possesion? am i correct? in that case there is such a thing as power tools and thermite

[FerretBone]

Originally Posted by triekkola

Hey everyone,

I'm staring at a gun safe right now, with an electronic keypad. I need some help opening this bitch, that is if you're willing to offer advice

Before I start I should mention that I cannot use any type of Brute force methods on opening it. So the usual ways are out, creativity is now the only hope.

There is a phone line that comes out of the safe and connects to the keypad, which twists off the front of the safe door.

This is the safe:

http://www.safeandvaultstore.com/thu...xl&w=300&h=300

It is an American Security safe, on the keypad it says AMSEC ESL 10. I have done hours of searching for special codes etc. And I'm almost at my wits end.

If anyone has any good ideas on obtaining fingerprints from a surface like this, it's plastic-ish shit. I don't even know.

I was thinking of a fluorescent ink and using black light to see which numbers have been touched. But I'm going to try using powders right now if anyone has experience with this field it would help alot.

Thanks!

Why dont you keep your dirty little hands out of other peoples stuff. There are easier ways to get firearms. And you wouldnt even have to steal them from someone elses collections. I'd love to get the chance to catch someone like you breaking into my safe. These gun safes are only designed to protect firearms from fire for about 30mins and to require a theif to stay on site long enough to ethier be shot or caught by the police. Honestly, there are not designed to be unbreakable.

With that said, and seeing how I'm already here. The electronic keypad is not the only way to open this safe. The key pad cover comes off by Lifting and sliding up. Behind the batt box/housing there is a large key slot. I've never seeing a safe that does not have one. Next all you need is the serial number for the safe, and American Security safes mailing address.


or just look for the key. They're probabley not carryied by the owner because there so big.

A construction grade grinder works well too.

Or the most easy way is allow the batteries to die. Then use the default code to unlock it. Because when the batts die and stay dead for whatever amount of time, the electronic keypad resets it self to the default or orignal code once the new ones are places in. Again you will need the serial number

[No1sadvocate]

Originally Posted by FerretBone

Why dont you keep your dirty little hands out of other peoples stuff. There are easier ways to get firearms. And you wouldnt even have to steal them from someone elses collections. I'd love to get the chance to catch someone like you breaking into my safe. These gun safes are only designed to protect firearms from fire for about 30mins and to require a theif to stay on site long enough to ethier be shot or caught by the police. Honestly, there are not designed to be unbreakable.

With that said, and seeing how I'm already here. The electronic keypad is not the only way to open this safe. The key pad cover comes off by Lifting and sliding up. Behind the batt box/housing there is a large key slot. I've never seeing a safe that does not have one. Next all you need is the serial number for the safe, and American Security safes mailing address.


or just look for the key. They're probabley not carryied by the owner because there so big.

A construction grade grinder works well too.

Or the most easy way is allow the batteries to die. Then use the default code to unlock it. Because when the batts die and stay dead for whatever amount of time, the electronic keypad resets it self to the default or orignal code once the new ones are places in. Again you will need the serial number

Why don't you stop preaching and stop assuming that he stole it. I dont really think that would be too easy anyways considering that it probably weighs about 500 pounds.

If what he said about a keyhole is true, I'd drill the damn thing. Any kind of grinder of explosive has the possibility of setting ammunition off and/or damaging the firearms inside.

If you need help drilling PM me, i can provide you with a guide.

[dustinm]

Assuming OP hasn't gotten it all grubby by touching the keypad, he could use the Dizzy trick of buying some graphite pencils, removing the graphite, and breaking it up into a fine powder.

Blow the powder onto the safe and it will [hopefully] stick to the most recently used numbers, hopefully the ones used to correctly open the safe.

Otherwise, have you thought about an explosive? Or do you only have physical access to the safe and need your entry to be surreptious?

Edit: Nevermind, I get "thermite" is a class of explosives.

[FerretBone]

Originally Posted by No1sadvocate

Why don't you stop preaching and stop assuming that he stole it. I dont really think that would be too easy anyways considering that it probably weighs about 500 pounds.

If what he said about a keyhole is true, I'd drill the damn thing. Any kind of grinder of explosive has the possibility of setting ammunition off and/or damaging the firearms inside.

If you need help drilling PM me, i can provide you with a guide.

You should learn how to read before you reply to any of my post. Why would I "assume" someone asking how to open a safe on the internet stole anything? Of course he has not stole anything yet, because he can't get it open. I did assume he would steal the firearms inside once he opened it. (which he wont)

I thought twice before telling someone how to break into a gun owners safe. I really should have keep my mouth shut. But someone dumb enough to post on the internet about their next job is dumb enough to get caught. In all likeliness he will never get it open. Unless he finds the key. In order to get a replacement key he will need the serial number stamped on the face of the locking cylinders. (which he will not get.)

A drill is out of the question because it has a drill-resistant hard plate.


Did the last poster suggest explosives? LOL and I thought I watched to much TV. Why not get a wrecking ball on a crane and smash it open. While he is at it, why not pour water on it and wait for it to rust apart.
An explosive would probably only leave a large dent and a small crack in the 12-gauge solid steel body.
I can think of a few reasons not to use explosives, 1. Noise!!!! 2. Because you take a small juvenile crime and turn it into a felony. You past the local police, and go straight to the ATF’s and FBI’s crime labs because the explosive was used in a crime. You’d be better off just robbing someone at gun point for their firearms. Though it would likely be deadly for you.

Once again a $1500 gun safe requires a thief to stay on site long enough to ether be shot or caught by the police. Good luck

[dustinm]

Originally Posted by FerretBone

Did the last poster suggest explosives? LOL and I thought I watched to much TV. Why not get a wrecking ball on a crane and smash it open. While he is at it, why not pour water on it and wait for it to rust apart.
An explosive would probably only leave a large dent and a small crack in the 12-gauge solid steel body.
I can think of a few reasons not to use explosives, 1. Noise!!!! 2. Because you take a small juvenile crime and turn it into a felony. You past the local police, and go straight to the ATF’s and FBI’s crime labs because the explosive was used in a crime. You’d be better off just robbing someone at gun point for their firearms. Though it would likely be deadly for you.

Once again a $1500 gun safe requires a thief to stay on site long enough to ether be shot or caught by the police. Good luck

Yes, I did suggest explosives. I know nothing about safe cracking, merely throwing out ideas.

Thanks for the insight though, should I ever run into a $1500 gun safe that I inexplicably have to get into I know not to use explosives.

[Garf]

You could try to over-juice the electronics.
Sometimes the power surge will pop the lock.

Use an old microwave, and redirect a 220 volt power cable through the motor into any piece of conductive metal that is thin enough to slip into the electronic system.
I suggest using the clapper to turn it on though.
I wouldn't want to stand beside it if it explodes.

The Clapper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Rage]

Originally Posted by Garf

You could try to over-juice the electronics.
Sometimes the power surge will pop the lock.

Use an old microwave, and redirect a 220 volt power cable through the motor into any piece of conductive metal that is thin enough to slip into the electronic system.
I suggest using the clapper to turn it on though.
I wouldn't want to stand beside it if it explodes.

The Clapper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where the hell is he going to get 220 volt? God i hope your kidding, I believe very few have access to it. The only reason you have it is for welders and big equipment and i doubt many people here have that. Use some damn common sense.

[Trambo.45]

I'm guessing its not yours, I like your style, first of all dont touch the key pad, if you've already have then your pretty much fucked, all you have to do is a little CSI status, I'm guessing you dont have any graphite powerder layin around, in that case you have two options, 1) take a pencil and a knife and carefully start shaving away at the tip(not the wood) shave it off into a need pile, ( a bottle cap would work fine)
you take a very VERY soft brush, dab in the powder and soflty brush the key pad, your gonna be looking for finger prints, a black like could help as well, but not required, there should be finger prints on the right numbers,
sure you wont know the full combination, but at least you'll know the numbers in the combination, all you do is just wright them down and push em in different orders untill you hit the right one.
with that bein said I give you permission to go and fuck shit up.

[huntin]

i see 3 circumstances

1) its your parents

2) Its in someone house that you can break into easily

3) you have someone elses safe in your possession (which i doubt)


which one is it?