08-28-2007, 11:13 PM
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caliid: thanks. what about making it just so it shines the FL hologram? like the method you are using for that TX holo? do you have any idea what the hologram looks like, is it the state seal logo like NJ uses? |
08-28-2007, 11:16 PM
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i was thinking of ways of getting a rubber stamp to do the method your doing cali..
erubberstamp.com
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"All the rubber stamps we carry are priced based on size so you can customize them at no extra cost; just send us your artwork in Black & White Line Art (No Grey Scale) as an attachment in a CDR, AI, JPEG or TIFF."
do you think it would be a good idea to have them make me a stamp? and then use the pearl ex? |
08-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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db.. did you get my pm with my email? if not its waytogoho@hushmail.com |
08-29-2007, 02:43 AM
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eFex: there are 2 basic kinds of holograms, types like TX are not real holograms, they are metallic pigments. FL is a real hologram and there is no good way to make them. I hope figure one out soon though... I too am trying to make the FL hologram.
Roger: with the alps you do it dry. But your stamp should work fine... and i dont know why pfc-01 wouldnt work. Does it work if you just use it without pearl ex under a laminate? If not, then thats the problem, the heat ruines some flourescent pigments.
B4: stamp will work with only simple holograms (text, ect.) because they can only make the stamp so detailed. No word from my friend I'm guessing he is still abroad.
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08-29-2007, 03:09 AM
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Actually it won't work dry even without laminating. I don't know why. I ordered some of Perf's powder, if the order ever comes, I will try it with that. Otherwise I will have to get some of the PF-01. I think the PFC-01 is too fine or something and won't stick to the rubber stamp. |
08-29-2007, 03:09 AM
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yeah cali its cool... im gonna go for it and try this on my own..
so when i get the stamps do i want them reversed because ill be stamping the pigment on the inside of the laminate?
also.. i want to mix some UV powder.. maybe some green.. and if im doing virginia do i want a mixture of brilliant gold/interference gold or just one or the other..
lol and one more.. say i have the stamp and dry powder infront of me... how would i apply this to the laminate? is there another agent used to help it stick? |
08-29-2007, 04:03 AM
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best results for me and a stamp would be a little adhesive spray on the printed teslin and then stamp onto that. for some reason, int. gold works better for stamping than brilliant. just fool around with it and you should be able to get really good holos with the stamp.
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08-29-2007, 04:33 AM
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I imagine if it's an adhesive laminate, it shouldn't need any addition. B4life, did you ever get pdfcenter? If not, I've got a copy, just PM me.
BTW, I sent you a PM earlier, but the PM system on the boards seems to be a little unstable lately. |
08-29-2007, 04:34 AM
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caliid2006: Is a stamp a better tool to work with than PhotoEZ HD in terms of quality of the results? If so, how or where can one be obtained without drawing too much suspicion? |
08-29-2007, 04:38 AM
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I think photoez is garbage but others here dont so you can try it. It is difficult, time consuming and messy. You can get a stamp made at office depot or online. For the most detailed holo without using the alps method, you can use the thermal transfer method
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08-29-2007, 04:43 AM
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caliid2006: Would you mind elaborating on the thermal transfer method? |
08-29-2007, 07:46 AM
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@b4life
I sent you PDF center again. Let me know if you didn't get it. You will want your stamp printed in reverse.
@phoroh
Any company will do a simple stamp like TX with no questions asked.
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ok im about to go through with the stamp/pearl-ex.. should i order everything from perf? or is he a little slow with the shipping.. i need this pearl ex/Uv powder asap |
08-29-2007, 04:34 PM
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For the moment being Perf is having problems and I don't recommend going with him if you need your shit quickly.
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08-30-2007, 01:21 AM
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db did you ever get that order you said perf emailed you about?....
Some observations about FL.....
There is micro on the holo. There is little circles around "THE GREAT SEAL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA" and theres some even smaller ones on the inside well it says valid secure inside them...
I'm guessing you already know about the micro on the back and i didn't see any on the state seal but it might just be really tiny i was using a 6x magnafying glass
The front is NOT printed on the teslin(or whatever the core material is) its printed on the laminate(or the inside of the overlay).... However the back is printed on the teslin...
I'll take a few more looks at my id and let you guys know what else i find tomorrow or the next day
There has to be a way to peel of that 1 mil overlay because boiled mine and it came off so easily only problem is half the ink stuck to it and when i tried to take the ink of with a water paint thinner solutin the holos came off in the spots there was no ink.
I think if i boil longer it might peel off without any ink coming off but i don't have another id i could try this on  |  |
08-30-2007, 01:45 AM
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infested, some good observations.
Fl is a new kind of ID-- the front is actually printed on coated mylar, and the 1mil overlay is on top of that. And like you said the back is teslin, and they are stuck together.
Soakin the FL ID in some Goof Off you can pull the FL holo off just like butter-- but thats cheating.
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08-30-2007, 05:37 AM
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No, I didn't receive my order from Perf yet. I do know he is kicking though since he is currently fighting my dispute with him and he posted a tracking number. Another member I've been talking to was told his order shipped yesterday. We shall see.
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Hey guys Instead of ordering custom made stamps you can make them with a Photopolymer resin stamp kit it works great,all the way to the most intricate detail,I made some stamps of the California bear flag for the Uv ink man it looks great.
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I forgot I have a slightly used Alps Md-1000 in perfect working condition if anyone is interested PM me
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08-30-2007, 05:17 PM
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db.. i cant seem to get in touch with infested on that VA barcode data generator.. do you have this program? or do you have the tools to put together something like this? im not sure what i can give you in return.. but ill do my best |
08-30-2007, 05:42 PM
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I looked in my email and still had the link you gave me to that program
hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/45242718/BGWin.exe.html
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Speaking of VA BC, I have two VA BC gens that seem to match up pretty well to a legit BC, but a few characters of the 2D are off all the time. How important is exact matching for a 2D? |
08-30-2007, 06:19 PM
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Depends on the characters and the scanner.
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Well I just spent a little time with the barcodes, and I discovered a few things.
My understanding of the PDF417 language is that it starts with a set of data that defines the parameters of the data following it. In this start data, one of the BC gens that I have compared with desired data is one character off ("8" instead of "9"). This gen is also off in the location of spaces it has in between the later data, but has the correct total number of characters in the barcode.
What specific data is in this preceding set, and how might I learn to create my own working PDF417 data strings?
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nah thats not it db.. i got rid of that shit program a long time ago lol.. thanks tho..
phoroh.. u think u can send me one or both of those programs? maybe i can look at it and see what ur talking about |
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phoroh you will want to check out the AAMVA guide someone posted a link earlier.
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db, excellent read! Thanks!
B4life, the gens are close, but follow the AAMVA standards too closely. True data appears to follow AAMVA most of the time, but there are a few standards that are barely off (for instance, some fixed length fields have fewer or more fixed chars than AAMVA). The important document to read through is actually the older edition of the AAMVA (2000 version), for this is the current standard for the true data. I'll see what I can do to write a new VB gen that actually outputs the right data. |
08-31-2007, 06:10 AM
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Back to the talk about holo overlays though. What's this thermal transfer process caliid2006 has been talking about? |
08-31-2007, 07:38 PM
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The best damn hologram method in the world is what it is! |
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Originally Posted by caliid2006 The best damn hologram method in the world is what it is! | Hmm... must be! :wink:
B4life, PMed you back. | |
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