The 'Official' Novelty ID thread [for ALL novelty questions] - Page 100

lovinit52 · #**2971** (**permalink**) 10-01-2009, 10:09 PM

Just fyi everyone, there are working alps printers on e-bay

griper435 · #**2972** (**permalink**) 10-02-2009, 01:04 AM

can anyone help with michigan holograms or UV ?

I got the template from fake id pack, I think that will work. PM if u need more info

1984rampage · #**2973** (**permalink**) 10-02-2009, 06:52 AM

Alright I have a problem. I used the Ultimate Guide Version 3 Real Florida template and a poisonid.com hologram. Last night (Wednesday) I went to a local bar/club and got in fine with my ID (not the best but not horrible IMO). Fast forward to today and I got rejected. There was a new doorman and he turned me and my friends down which was totally embarrassing.

I need to make my ID look more legit. Any suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Right now Im printing on artisyn and the colors come out kinda dull. Would teslin be a better choice?

My printer is a new canon pixma ip4500 which I believe uses dye based inks.

Suggestions, tips, anything would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks

ProLicense · #**2974** (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 06:36 PM

I've been using the seal and key hologram and want to step my game up. Where are the tutorials about holograms? I want to see how the pearlEx process works and any alternatives. Im new Fargo printing too... if there are any tutorials about overlaminates and that stuff i would like to see that too. Thanks

1984rampage · #**2975** (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 07:43 PM

Anyone know where I can get inkjet PVC cards with a HiCo magnetic strip? The ID im going to try to reproduce is PVC so I picked up an R280 and PVC tray, but cant find the inkjet printable PVC cards with a magnetic strip...

teameurox · #**2976** (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 08:35 PM

what happened to beyondfake?

tehseeder · #**2977** (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 02:27 AM

everythings back up on templatehaven.co.cc

sorry bout the cheapness of the domain etc but i think that the info needs to be freely available. all n0vid accounts should work

andrew1111 · #**2978** (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 11:17 PM

I have the quebec template just released in 2009. the template is perfect. i am looking to get some money for it. there is not one flaw in the template. I will include a perfect method on how to copy the feel of the material. It is the same feel as the 2009 new york template. please make a reasonable offer. all offers will be concidered.

I also have many other EXCELLENT US states template.
please send all inquiries to my personal mailbox.
thanks

anonymousman · #**2979** (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 10:56 AM

Newer NY tutorial Guide created by Anonymous PART 1 of 3

First I would like to say that Perf (The Perfectionist) from Home Page is in no way affiliated with this guide.

Perf runs a legit art store. He has said before that if anyone emails him and mentions fake id's in the email he has to ignore that email. You can't blame him because after all, how does he know a cop isn't sending him an email mentioning planned fake id use so that they can try and trap him for knowingly selling to someone who mentioned planned non legal use.

Simply put, order as much supplies as you like from Perf but don't mention fake id's or any other non legal things in emails to him. I think Perf uses an offshore russian email service anyhow so it's not like anyone can ever get his email records but anyhow respect Perf's wishes and don't mention non legal things when asking him questions and whatnot.

All of the supplies in this tutorial can be bought from Home Page

Open the newer New York template found in the Ultimate Fake ID Guide
Version 3. Edit the template with your customers information/picture on it. Then add the 1D & 2D barcode onto the back of the New York template. The back template with both barcodes is the normal back template, the other one is for "enhanced"NY ID's.

UPDATE- The below text talks about making barcodes yourselves, however there is a New York 1D & 2D barcode maker program that came with the Version 3 guide. Just use the program and then copy and paste the barcodes onto the back template. You can skip the barcode steps below by using the NY barcode maker program.

Tutorial #1 of the version 3 guide explains how to create 2D barcodes.
"XxTheKidxX" recommended these settings in PDFcenter for the New York 2D barcode.

2d Barcode -

I use PDFcenter that came with Ver. 3

Settings read

* X Dim - 9
* Target Printer DPI - 750 (1200 DPI Temp.)
* Columns - 20
* Rows - 20

However "Budss" recommended

* X Dim - 3
* Target Printer DPI - 300 (1200 DPI Temp.)
* Columns - 18
* Rows - 21

I think "budss" may be more exact because the PDF decoder for the 2D NY barcode said this up top---> "Dimensions 21x18,R-S error 3".

Now that you have the front and back template edited. Cut out a piece of
10 mil teslin (found on Home Page) to 4 x 6 inches... Line it up with a 4 x 6 index card and then put them both onto a paper cutter (you can buy paper cutters at staples or office depot for $35) and then cut the teslin out to 4 x 6 inches with the paper cutter.

You can use scissors alternatively but if the top teslin part is cut with less than perfectly steady hands, then the barcode will look slightly slanted. Using a paper cutter to line up the teslin with the 4 x 6 index card will allow perfectly clean cuts and the back template/barcode will be perfectly even with the front.

Then print the front template onto the teslin using your CANON inkjet printer. Canon's are excellent inkjet printers far BETTER than epson. Go to the photoshop file>print and then when the Canon print box pops up click properties then,

Print Quality - click "High"
Media type - click "Matte photo paper"

Then "page settings" up top do these below,
Page size - click "4x6"
Orientation - click "Landscape"
Page layout - click "Fit to page"

Then click OK. Then click Print. Then flip the teslin and print the back.

Now you will use your pre filled Blue UV filled inkjet cartridges (HP 51645A *HP 45*) you bought from perf (Home Page)

Now put your 4x6 printed New York teslin, into your HP printer so that you can use your HP printer to print the UV. Ask perf which HP printer/s you will need to buy to use the HP UV inkjet cartridge. The cartridge may work for many model HP printers or only certain ones...

The UV for the front and back of the New York IDs were included in the front and back New York templates in the Ultimate Fake ID Guide Version 3. Using your HP stuff from perf, print the front UV design onto the front teslin, and then flip it over and print the back UV design onto the teslin.

The front UV is the 2 New York seals and the back UV says "NY" scrolling across. They are both layers included with the temps. You can just use blue for the front UV if you want, however if you want the UV perfect you'll want to make it multicolored like as shown in the real NY UV front photo on the big seal in the middle.

You'll need to order 2 UV ink cart colors from perf. The big seal is blue on the outsides and more yellow/green (I think it looks like) in the middle. So order a blue UV cart and a Yellow UV cart from Perf.

Now that you have the template printed onto the teslin and also the UV printed onto the teslin you will get the hologram and lamination part ready.

First you will want to prepare your laminates so that when you stamp your New York teslin with your hologram stamp, you can just stick the teslin into the laminate pouch and laminate.

To replicate the feel of the front New York IDs you will use perf's 7mil Soft Crystal full sheet laminates for the front. You will do the same thing with the paper cutter and cut the sheets down to smaller 4x6 size. Home Page

UPDATE- Perf says that he is currently out of crystal laminate (at the time of this writing) and it's hard to find these days. Luckily Perf's 10 mil lexan polycarbonate laminates will also replicate the look and feel of the front of New York's ID's. One person said this "oregonlam.com has 50 12x18 sheets of it for $72 its great stuff and that amount will make thousands of ids". You can either order that laminate from Perf or oregonlam. I know Perf is legit but I don't know much about oregonlam.

The 10 mil lexan polycarbonate is also said to be a perfect replication of Illinois's previous IDs. The previous Illinois ID's had a special front laminate very similar to New Yorks.

anonymousman · #**2980** (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 10:59 AM

UPDATE again- Perf said he found more crystal laminate but he doesn't have the $100 to order it. Pay him the $100 to order the crystal and then he can order the crystal laminates and then give you however many crystal laminates to make up for fronting him the $100.

The crystal laminate is a HOT SELLER because of it's ability to replicate the front NY lams by 90% exact or more. So if Perf ever says he is out, front him the $100 so he can order more, he'll then send you your crystal sheets plus have more in stock that way!

Now for the back laminate you will want to use perf's 5mil Choice Gloss. Home Page

UPDATE- Turns out people said that the below 10mil teslin, 7mil front laminate, 5mil back laminate created a NY fake that was a little more thin than a real NY. I would say to print the template onto 14 mil laser teslin with most (Canon or Epson inkjet printers) and then use Perf's 7 mil laminate for the back to make it thicker, however Perf is out of Crsytal laminate at the time of this writing (he may or may not get more crystal in the future so just check with him anyway).

So now you have 10mil teslin, 7mil front laminate, 5mil back laminate equaling a finished 22mil ID. 22mil is very close if not the exact thickness of a real New York ID. Perf's high quality laminates will replicate the real New York ID's extremely well.

UPDATE, since Perf is out of Crystal, you'll want to buy Perf's 10mil Lexan Polycarbonate for the front, either 10 mil inkjet teslin from Perf or 14 mil teslin from brainstormidsupply, and then Perf's 5 mil gloss or Perf's 7 mil gloss.

You can either have 10mil Lexan Polycarbonate, 10 mil teslin, 5 mil gloss = 25 mil

OR

You can have 10mil Lexan Polycarbonate, 10 mil teslin, 7 mil gloss = 27 mil

OR

You can have 10mil Lexan Polycarbonate, 14 mil teslin, 5 mil gloss = 29 mil

OR

You can have 10mil Lexan Polycarbonate, 14 mil teslin, 7 mil gloss = 31 mil

*****UPDATE*****

Since Perf can get more crystal most likely, you can do

10mil teslin, 7mil front crystal, 5mil back gloss = 22 mil HOWEVER somebody said that is a little to thin compared to a real NY.

So you can try

14mil laser teslin, 7mil front crystal, 5mil back gloss = 26 mil

OR

14mil laser teslin, 7mil front crystal, 7mil back gloss = 28 mil

(Most inkjet Canon printers & inkjet Epson printers can print on laser teslin.)

Keep in mind the 22 mil original Crystal plan was too thin, so you can decide for yourself which thickness replicates the real New York thickness best, and if you can create the fake NY and compare it to the real NY do let everyone know which combination works best to get the right thickness.

His 7mil Soft Crystal lams replicate the feel of the front of a real NY ID almost exactly, around 90% perfect to be exact. Previously "XxTheKidxX" recommended using a fine grit sandpaper as a front lamination carrier to replicate the gritty feel. The fine grit sandpaper would embed the gritty feel onto the front lam.

However now that perf's new art store is up you won't need to do the fine grit sandpaper method. His 7mil Soft Crystal lams and 5mil Choice Gloss are really high quality lams and they are flexible and bend extremely well replicating the bendability and flexibilty of the real New York ID's.

So cut them smaller with a paper cutter and then tape them together with scotch tape from the left side, like an alligators mouth. Tutorial #1 of the version 3 Guide goes into great detail of the "Teslin Method" so read that to get a good idea of what I'm talking about right now.

Now you will have a front 7mil lam and a back 5mil lam taped like an alligators mouth. Only cut them smaller each session you are working on making ID's. Because if you pre cut them all smaller and taped them all at once, over time a small amount of dust and lint may collect on the lams and you don't want little specs getting under the final lamination. You could/should use a can of compressed air to blow away dust from the laminates before you laminate.

Also use the air can to blow dust off the teslin if you need to BEFORE you apply the hologram stamp. Wearing latex gloves or nitrile gloves (same thing but better found at all stores too) greatly keeps lint and dust from getting on your supplies. Fingers carry more crap so wear gloves to keep crap off the supplies and to keep your fingerprints off supplies.

Now take the New York wavy line (sin curve) hologram stamp that you made using the $39.99 justritestampers DOT COM stamp kit. I included the NY hologram template in with the Version 3 Guide. Just like Tutorial #1 says in the guide, you will want to drag the New York Hologram template into a larger photoshop box so the full stamp is in view. The New York templates and hologram templates were made in a 3.4 width by 2.2 height box.

Make a new 300 DPI template file as a 5.0 width by 2.2 height dimensions file then drag the New York hologram template into that. Click on the wavy line layers and then type control + I to invert the colors. You want the waves to be white. Then change the background color to black.

To make stamps with the kit you want the hologram design part to be white and the background to be black. Print that out onto the special paper that comes with the kit (transparency paper). Then cut along the outside of the black area with scissors. You want the black to be over sized a little so that you can cut away the excess polymer easy when you are making the stamp.

The Tutorial #1 in the Version 3 Guide gives some tips for making hologram stamps you'll want to read but also their site had video tutorials for making the stamps and paperwork comes with the kit.

Now that you have your NY stamp made you will want to rub some interference gold pearl ex onto the stamp and then lightly blow onto the stamp so that the excess pearl ex comes off. Then stamp the hologram onto the teslin. There are real NY ID pictures in the Version 3 Guide that show the hologram's location on the ID's so make sure to line up the hologram in the general area and also make sure that the hologram is straight on the front. Make sure you don't stamp it slanted.

It's real easy to stamp a hologram correctly using your stamp. The justritestampers kit sells clear see through stamp mounts which makes it perfect for lining up your holograms exactly. The real NY ID's use some type of uncommon hologram, but the pearl will work in 49 states besides New York.

anonymousman · #**2981** (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 11:00 AM

Newer NY tutorial Guide created by Anonymous PART 3 of 3

UPDATE- The New York holograms wear away after about 6-8 months so you actually don't need to do a hologram if you are to lazy, however it's better if you do one.

By following this guide your NY ID's will be so good that they will pass at gas stations, bars, nightclubs, and wherever else. They could even pass barbook checks.

Now after you stamp your hologram you will want to stick the teslin inside your slightly over sized taped alligator mouth laminates pouch. Put the teslin in correctly so that the back template is on the gloss lam side and the front is on the crystal laminate side (or 10mil Lexan Polycarbonate if Crystal is out of stock). Make sure to not move the laminate around to much because you don't want the pearl ex sliding around on the teslin because the the hologram may look slightly smudged.

The hologram however will stay in place perfect by default. You would actually have to move the laminates around a lot to smudge the pearl ex hologram. The scotch tape on the left side also holds the laminates in place from moving around. If you were to NOT scotch tape the sides then the laminates could get moved from each other a little and then possibly smudge the pearl ex.

I say interference gold pearl ex because that is what most states use and it is also what most people are used to seeing. Some people say the real NY ID's are silver looking in color. You can try to use silver pearl ex if you want but I would go with gold. It's just a matter of choice. Try both and see which one you like best if you want.

Some people have said they use adhesive spray on the teslin before they stamp the pearl ex but I don't know why anyone would need to use adhesive spray plus I think the adhesive spray would come out like shit. Next put the laminate into your carrier (Tutorial #1 of the V3 Guide explains carriers).

Use a nice heat setting control laminator from staples or office depot. Do some tests runs to figure out exactly what you will need to use for the right tempature for your laminator. Then remember what the heat setting is. Try maybe around 135 degrees celcius and figure out if it needs to be higher or not from there.

When it comes out, put a hard cover book over the carrier/laminate and push down a little. Let it cool down for a minute or two and then release. For carriers you can use two 4x6 index cards taped together like and alligators mouth, or you can buy carriers online, or you can improvise whatever carriers you want.

Now put the New York into a CR-80 sized die cutter, line it up real good as you don't want to fuck up the die cutting part and then have to redo the ID, although it may take you a few test runs to perfect everything so don't get discouraged if you have to redo things a few times every now and then.

Cut the New York with the die cutter and then you have a finished newer New York Fake ID. You can sell those babies to college students for $200 each. If you are dealing with filthy rich college students you can charge them $250.

Barcode Data, this was a real 2D NY barcode decoded using the Decode417Demo which was included in The Ultimate Fake ID Guide Version 3.

Decoded Text ANSI (below)

@
_
AAMVA36001001DL00270251DL
DAAANDERSON@LAUREN@N
DAG1960 DODGE ROAD
DAIEAST AMHERST
DAJNY
DAK14051
DAQ653720681
DBB19830502
DBD20060620
DBA20120502
DARD
DAS
DAT
DBC2
DAU505
DAYBR
DBK
DBH

Decoded Text ASCII (below)

@
_
AAMVA36001001DL00270251DL
DAAANDERSON@LAUREN@N
DAG1960 DODGE ROAD
DAIEAST AMHERST
DAJNY
DAK14051
DAQ653720681
DBB19830502
DBD20060620
DBA20120502
DARD
DAS
DAT
DBC2
DAU505
DAYBR
DBK
DBH

All of the barcode info is the same as the front scan of the real NY ID scan. You can tell all of the coding (even though the data is obvious) by looking at the front scan included in the "ID pics" folder and it's also a layer in the New York Template.

I haven't checked yet to see if the the coding is the same as the New York barcode maker program. However you can just open up a notepad file and then manually change all of the info to whatever info you want on your fake ids and then copy and paste the new made up info into PDFcenter and then you have yourself a New York barcode.

Or just use the New York barcode maker program that came with V3.

Good Luck!

jpose123 · #**2982** (**permalink**) 10-13-2009, 02:17 PM

are the nevada state seals holograms or are they just printed on there?

spunone69 · #**2983** (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 12:04 AM

Whoever posted that link to templatehaven...YOU ROCK!!! I found so much good stuff on that site! Anyone who is looking for good templates or good scans to start a template from should check this site out. No charge for anything, just register like you did for this forum. AWESOME FORUM!! Check it out...

Runstrong34 · #**2984** (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 12:20 AM

So I have been working on novelties for a while now. I use pvc cards not inkjets. I have gotten pretty good at holos but I am running in to a problem with the laminates. Can anyone recommend where to get laminates for pvc cards. I use my lamination station on my printer and it comes out great, but it takes up to much print ribbon just to use the laminater. I want to use a store bought laminater and I have tryed the laminates from staples but the do not stick to just the front very well. Any suggestions?

spunone69 · #**2985** (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 04:23 PM

Is your PVC printer HDP or not? The HDP's print the whole card on a thin layer of film them bond it to the card (they don't actually print ON the card) making the front to "smooth" to take lamination very well. Have you tried teslin? Even though it won't go through a PVC printer safely, teslin bonds to lamination better than anything else. The best lamination for regular PVC printers is the kind on the roll, it uses a coating that bonds with PVC without blurring the print. Search online for PVC laminates...

spunone69 · #**2986** (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 04:25 PM

By the way...staples lamination is CHEAP!! It doesn't even bond to teslin that well, try ordering from one of the better ID supply stores online. It will be more expensive, but the lamination is much better quality! I get mine from Brainstorm or Arcadia...

donate · #**2987** (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 02:50 AM

Not to be a cynic, but are we supposed to believe perf is back and that site is 100% legit and not just you re-making it to steal everyones money? HMM

spunone69 · #**2988** (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 04:21 PM

I thought about that too...but his site came highly recommended from more than one reputable source of mine. I have also emailed Perf about a number of his products and the responses were all pretty quick, and answered all my questions...the easy way to find out is to make a small order and see what happens. If he was ripping people off, there would most likely be a report somewhere in here about it...

guardianangel3290 · #**2989** (**permalink**) 10-16-2009, 11:26 PM

I'd like to buy a fake off one of you! shoot me an email at guardianangel3290@yahoo.com. I live in New Mexico BTW so im looking for either a NM, AZ, TX or CO fake. Id also like it to scan. Please email! Ive been looking forver and im getting desperate. will pay up to $150 depending on the quality!
thanks, guys.

EDIT: i know theres a risk in selling to someone who only has 1 post, but ill try to do what i can to proove im legit. Im active under this same screen name over on bimmerpost.com if that helps

dave7667 · #**2990** (**permalink**) 10-18-2009, 06:55 PM

Hello, I'm working on perfecting my own fake ID.

I'm buying an epson printer w/ durabrite ink so I'll use that to print.

I've messed around with artisyn and it seems to work well for me. What places do you guys buy from? The 9-perforated sheets seem to work well for me.

Also, holograms. Do you guys make your own for your state? How are you getting your holograms?

orion · #**2991** (**permalink**) 10-19-2009, 02:09 PM

Just to reply for anyone wondering about Perf. He is 100% legit. Very helpful in a lot of ways and excellent service/products.

Edit: back up

danielsoto2006 · #**2992** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 12:29 AM

Does any body have a good Social Security Template. If you do please send me a private. I do have some great id and license templates, we can trade!!
Any body interested please let me know.

thoughtcriminal · #**2993** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 08:10 AM

Does anyone have updated templates? The templates in the Ultimate Fake ID Guide v2 are a bit dated. Of interest are the new Montana, Massachussettes (very difficult from it appears), etc templates -- pretty much anything new from the 2009 Bar Book.

Also can anyone get their hands on the Ultimate Identity Guide from the same company that publishes the Bar Book? This thing is tightly controlled but would be a holy grail to the ID afficionado.

Thank you in advance,

Thought Criminal

g2o14 · #**2994** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 12:28 PM

how do i become a member on templatehaven.co.cc i need to download some things Does anyone recommend what mil i should should for PA and thickness of laminate???

g2o14 · #**2995** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 12:32 PM

can anyone guide me to the ultimate guide 3 to id making i cant seem to find it ??

spunone69 · #**2996** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 04:23 PM

I don't know if they're still taking registrations, but I signed up for templatehaven the same day the link was posted here, and I got an account no problem. My friend tried to sign up a few days later and they wouldn't let him...go figure!! I can say that they have A LOT of good stuff there...

1984rampage · #**2997** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 09:56 PM

My R280 printer never came so Im just going to sell my PVC tray and inkjet cards. Im just looking to get what I paid for them so $40 + shipping.

I can get pictures if needed!

Thanks

PM me

g2o14 · #**2998** (**permalink**) 10-20-2009, 10:11 PM

I need to know what the hologram is for PA DL 2009 ?? anyone with experience with this?? also the thickness of laminate that should be used

wheresgeorgenow · #**2999** (**permalink**) 10-21-2009, 05:46 AM

Just thought I would post a tip:

I have been experimenting with this stuff off and on for a few months and I had been having a lot of trouble with the printing part.

I would print on artisyn with an epson r280. After print, everything look great. Slowly (within 15 minutes) the ink would FADE, like it was being absorbed. I tried different settings, nothing fixed this. I tried using teslin, printed with matte setting and Best photo...this fixed the problem. Maybe some of you had the same issue, I dont know, but switching materials made all the difference in the world.

I am going to order from the perf soon and continue experimenting. Anyone deal with the perf before?

-wgn

SPKiley · #**3000** (**permalink**) 10-21-2009, 06:43 AM

I recently got into this but made a pretty good NH one with holograms but the bar code is a little fucked up. I've been searching for the New Mass. one but can't find it anywhere. If anyone has it and could point me in the right direction thatd be great...