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true. So what you giong to do for the Fl holo? Where you live in Fl?
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Probably get them professionally manufactured. Live in northern FL by AL line.
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How are you going to do that? Have you done it before?
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Submit files to a manufacture. Did it for the PA holos.
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And they did it for you? you found a manufacturer overseas?
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:56 AM
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Yeah.
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What did they charge you? Were they the 1mil adhesive holos rather than the heat laminates?
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They charged about $1000 for 1000 and they were 1 mil adhesive holos.
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I have to go play some bball right now ill let yo know about the template tommorow.
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Not really anyone who been in the biz long enough knows where to get materials.
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Maybe so. Do you know if there is still anywhere to get TXP?
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No, I wouldn't as I haven't used it in years. Used to buy a lot of stuff from www.identityaustralia.com.au back when I was doing TXP. They should be able to put you in contact with a supplier if they don't carry it themselves. Have you tried Trans Kote Nylon as a substitute for TXP?
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no, I havent but have hear it works similarly, and Perfs website says it is a good replacement. I contacted Trans Cote to see why TXP is hard to get these days and they basically said they are trying to keep it from getting into the hands of people like us. Licenses that use TXP are too easy anyway haha.
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I believe they passed a law that made it illegal for an non gov agency to obtain it with sig stripe. I heard Perf was having problems filling orders a couple months ago. Do you know if he resolved them?
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He doenst even sell TXP anymore, im not sure about his other business matters though i havent gotten anything from him in a while
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And i cant believe his website has been up for so long without getting shut down.
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Yeah he inquired about order TXP with magstripe and his supplier quit talking to him. Similar to most suppliers in the states. If you have a PVC printer why are you still messing around with telsin?
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I use Teslin for California ect, and it actually works OK for Fl. The Fl ID is interesting actually though, its not PVC as you may have noticed. It is coated mylar (the printed side) stuck to a Teslin like material and laminated (the back side) This seems sort of new, im not sure if any other states are doing this... diong it on PVC would probably work just fine, but ive been printing the front on Mylar and sticking it to Teslin. Now that you mention it i think im just going to do it on PVC, its easier.
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I don't really think one would notice a difference using PVC unless they held it up to a light cause you can see the barcode on the back on the real deal, however can't see the print on the back with PVC. NY has something similar if not the exact same. Only reason I asked because your the only person I know who is still working with telsin after experiencing a PVC printer. That sanding/corner rounding is a pain in the ass if your not using a die cutter.
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I have a die cutter, the cheap 300 dollar one and it works fine. Califonia IDs are not on PVC, and the resolution of the PVC printer isnt high enough. Whats the deal with the new NY ID, it has some sort of squiggly line over the face or something? What is that?
Do you know or have you heard of anyone trying to make multi-spec holos with lasers ect.? I got a book on homeade holography and the Rainbow Hologram section basically said that these are near impossible to do. And, even if you did know how, im not sure if its possible to make holos that look like state holos.
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This is what an epson rep tells me about printing microprint: "All of Epson's current photo printer line is capable of printing in
single
droplet sizes as small as a few picoliters, which would be visible only
to
the human eye through use of a magnifer. Some have indeed used these printers to print what you call "microprint" for various applications. The only limit to the depth of
detail possible with these printers would be set by the file itself
(the
base card design with the fine print would have to be very clear and
sharp)
and the media type you print on. (Some paper types will absorb more ink
and
"soak up" the fine detail.)"

Im giong to get one and see how well this shit works.
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:03 AM
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I tried printing microprint with my Epson r200 and quite frankly I can't read it under a magnifying glass. I can read it if I enlarge it a little bit but if you look closely at it you can tell its not real microprint. As far as NY it may be OVD, NY is hard to keep up with since they make small changes to their DL every year. I was looking into those homemade holo kits myself. From the coin picture hxxp://www.holokits.com/holography_kit_1.htm

I think it would be possible to make a simple state hologram like PA from it, but highly doubt you could create FL from it. They recommend that you don't print from text, but use a 3D model. I wonder if a text holo would look half way decent. Which book were you reading btw?
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The newer epsons may print better than your r800 (unless yours is new). Its called "homeade holography", dont buy it though it has nothing on the rainbow hologram and its an expensive book. The rainbow holo looks way more complicated to make than the other kinds, i would like to give it a shot though. Fl holo has 3 or 4 diffraction angles so that would be hard. If could figure out how to do 2 though that would be plenty good enough. Thanks that was a good link i might ask them where to begin.

How many diff angles does PA have? If its simple and only 1 angle you can use diffraction film.
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PA has two channels. One is the list of counties in alphabetical order and the other channel is the keystone (http://mediaroom.visitpa.com/files/keystone.jpg) but it doesn't have the letters PA inside of it. I hear "The" book on holograms is Practical Holography and from the table of contents it looks like it contains a lot of useful info.
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Sorry what you mean by 2 channels? Is that image on that link what the hologram looks like? If so that is pretty simple.
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Two angles (called a channel in holography). That picture is what one angle looks like w/o the letters PA in it.
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Oh ok cool. I can see why it wouldnt be that hard to get a manufacturer to make that for you... they may not have even known it was for a state holo. It would probably be harder to get that done for Fl. Im giong to buy the holo kit from that site you showed me, im sure there is a way to do it.

Are there any other good ID forums?
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Don't know of any decent forums these days about ids, hell this is the most decent conversation I've had about ids in about a year. Most sites just have "how do I make an id?" How long you been in the biz?
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Yeah all the forums i guess are shut down. Been in the biz about 5 years... but i feel like im too old to be making fake ids anymore, but its fun as hell, you? I emailed the website you showed me, they said that thier cheap kit can make white light holos, so im going to experiment with that.
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