The 'Official' Novelty ID thread [for ALL novelty questions]

[caliid2006]

Yeah, they UV is blue/white on Fl. You getting an Alps infested? Ive got a way to make multispec using the alps.

[db]

Mind sharing the details cali? Don't know at the moment if the holo deal is going through.

[caliid2006]

Unfortunatelly I sold my alps about 2 months ago, so I didnt get to try this, but I am fairly certain it works for a 1-d multispec (which may or may not be good enough for Fl). Id rather not post it here, but if someone has access to an alps (db or anyone else) and would like to try it let me know. Ill even send a few supplies to find out if this works or not.

[phoroh]

I've picked up a Fargo Pro-L for some fun, but so far I haven't been very impressed. Anyone have any suggestions for color management settings or software? I can't get any colors right at all!

Good thread btw.

[dft767]

hey everyone please PM me if you can make a ledgit cali id that blacklights and scans. i am interested in purchasing one. thanks.

[db]

phoroh have you try using the ICC profiles that may have come with your printer?
hxxp://www.beresfordco.com has some software thats supposed to help color match fargo printers. If you don't feel like spending the cash you can print up a color chart, however don't print one off the internet as they can misrepresent color.

[phoroh]

Unfortunately the printer did not come with any software. It has a "Monitor" color management setting (as opposed to integer), but it has not provided any improvement. Is there a specific recommended resource available that goes through the process of making a color chart, or should I just go through Google?

[db]

If your using Photoshop, I made some CYMK color charts up a couple days ago. I can upload them if you want, but they would need to be resized to fit a cr80 sized area.

[phoroh]

That would be awesome if you don't mind. I'm using Photoshop 7.0.

[rogerbobulater]

Does anyone have any TXP connections?

[Ceeboy213]

whats up guys I found a site in china that sells Invisible uv inkjet ink for Epson,HP.and Cannon I got some last week and it works great here is the site:http://www.fake-proof.com/printer_uv_ink.htm.They got a bunch of colors to you might want to check em out.

[middletown]

I'm wondering what can be used to simulate the front of the old NY State. I heard it is 6 Mil soft diffused crystal. I found a website that uses this description, "6 MIL Extremely aggressive adhesive and a tiny pebble pattern textured surface front suitable for a mousepad soft SuperStick SANDTEX textured low glare front and smooth matte back." Although, I am not sure if it is it. If anyone knows let me know.

[DSB]

Some good info in this thread just from db and caliid2006 talking back and forth.

My deliema is about the current Georgia hologram, I have no idea how to make copy the hologram to do all that convert to black, photo ez, pearl ex stuff etc. The other problems I'm having is I don't know which colors you would classify the Ga hologram as. I think Pearl Ex Super Copper is the right color?

When the hologram is not tilted it kinda looks like green but its just flat no shine.

When the hologram is tilted it looks an orangish color i guess you could call it copper, a buddy said its the standard hologram color.

Any help is much appreciated!

[db]

Could try interference red and spring green.

[caliid2006]

Middletown-- I have heard of people using 14 mil teslin for old NY, laminating only the back, and matte spraying the front to protect the ink and give it texture. I have only heard this though.

[DSB]

Okay I got my hologram 'stencil' done, meaning got the words and then transformed it to black.

So know from my understanding of it I need to:

1st print out the 'stencil' onto a transparency

Then lay the transparency onto a photo ez and leave in the sun? Im confused as to which goes on top the transparency or the photo ez?

Now I'm confused as to how to get the interference red or whatever on the stencil or now photo ez.

Then I cut the hologram to size of the one on the ID and then i first laminate the card and then the card with the holo?

also do you need to get two sided teslin to do the front in and back or will the single side do?

[phoroh]

Hmm... many people have advised against using Photo-EZ for creating custom hologram stencils. What do you recommend should be used instead?

[db]

If your going to do the Photoez way. You put the black part down, then you put the photoez on the black part, then you put your transparency on top of the photoez, then you put the glass part on top of the transparency.


* <- Sun
---------- <-Glass
******* <- Transparency
++++++ <- PhotoEz
~~~~~~ <- Black Part

Now I'm confused as to how to get the interference red or whatever on the stencil or now photo ez.

Get a frame for your photoez you can pick these up at Michaels or AC Moore for a dollar or two. Then you mix your pearlex with something clear like woman's nail polish or that clear primer for model cars. Don't waste your time with Speedball as that looks like shit when finished. Then use the squeegee that you got to shove th
e mixture into the grooves and onto the laminate.

Then I cut the hologram to size of the one on the ID and then i first laminate the card and then the card with the holo?

You put the holo on first, on the part that is going to touch the teslin. Then you laminate.

also do you need to get two sided teslin to do the front in and back or will the single side do?

If your using an Epson printer with durabrite inks then you can use laser teslin, otherwise get the double sided.

@phoroh
Most recommend using an Alps printer. But its hard to find a good working one.

[DSB]

So the 'black part' would be the GEORGIA that i just printed on the transparency on the ground then photo ez then ANOTHER transparency then i put all this in a 9x11 frame or whatever and then lay out in the sun? how long do i leave it out there?

also isnt there something about washing something or other after this is done?

[db]

No. If you bought the kit you will have a black cardboard like thing. If you didn't buy the kit you will not have the glass part nor the black part. The part that is labeled transparency is what Georgia is printed on. You don't need a 9x11 frame more like a 4x4 frame as you can cut the Photoez to size.

If you bought the kit there will be instructions, if you didn't there are many sites out there that will tell you know to use Photoez step by step.

[DSB]

so just buy the photoez kit, some interference red and spring green and give it a go.

Last question for now, the standard or hi res kit?

[db]

If any of the lines are smaller than 1 mm I'd go hi-res otherwise standard would be fine. Picking up a paint brush if you get the hi-res wouldn't be a bad idea either.

[middletown]

Thanks, cali, I'll check it out. Anyone know of a good way to print with UV ink and not have it fade after it's laminated. I've been trying to work with UV powder with no results.

[DSB]

sorry stupid question but what "lines" are you talking about?

[infested352]

Any lines in the holo.... and heres what you should try for the GA holo....

60% Interference Red
20% Macropearl
10% Dou Green/Yellow
10% Dou Green/Blue

[db]

Any line that is on the hologram.

[infested352]

Does anyone have jerms msr206 software that they could send me?

[caliid2006]

Not saying your wrong infested, but there is a much simpler mix for georgia..... I wont put it, because I encourage everyone to get good with pearl ex, so experiment yourself.

[middletown]

Infested's mix looks pretty good. You get the faint blue look when laid flat and the red/"copper" effect.

[caliid2006]

Alright go with that then, im sure that mix looks good.