06-24-2009, 04:31 PM
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Iv always wanted to know al about the sensors. As once i set the sensors off as i was walking out the shop. But the thing is, i double checked everything before i had left. There was some one right behind me ready to stop me and i just ended up giving it back and they let me on my way. I was wondering if there was a sensor on the items or if it was just the people in the shop setting it off because they had seen me do it?? |
06-25-2009, 12:01 AM
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hello, me and my 2 buddies are planning on going to the next city over (winnipeg) tommorow and im probably going to be purchasing a new guitar but there is this little 80$ footswitch ive always wanted from there but never had the guts to steal so while im there tommorow if i do purchase the guitar im thinking it would be the perfect time to snatch it its about the size of a wallet and the thickness of a keyboard im just trying to think of where i could inconspicuously slip it. any ideas? |
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In your back pocket. It would look like a wallet
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Originally Posted by tomone Iv always wanted to know al about the sensors. As once i set the sensors off as i was walking out the shop. But the thing is, i double checked everything before i had left. There was some one right behind me ready to stop me and i just ended up giving it back and they let me on my way. I was wondering if there was a sensor on the items or if it was just the people in the shop setting it off because they had seen me do it?? | Some products have those magnetic tags inside the packages. I went to a Shoppers Drug Mart to get some nicorette, and when I got home and opened it, there was a magnetic strip inside the package .Luckily the sensors have been broken and they haven't bothered fixing it for a while.
If its small enough and easy to take apart, just slip it in your pocket, a razor comes in handy for plastic packaging.
Just get some neodymium magnets with the power of N48(someone in this thread said something about it), you take them from your old hard drives.
There's this new Canadian tire, about a kilometer away and they have self checkout, and on a slightly empty day (monday during 2 o'clock) there aren't a lot of employees. There is usually a cashier taking care of self checkout and the cashier. So what I do is have a friend go to the cashier buying a bunch of useless crap and I go to the self checkout with fairly expensive items and cover the barcode with a gum barcode which is about 1.15 and swap it for the two items and I tap the scale where the bags are so it thinks I put it in the bag. I tell my friend to be clumsy with the change, buys enough time for me to walking out with 2 80 dollar halogen work lights for 2.30 + tax. I've did this method with a small 15" tv (was gonna go for the 19" but it was sold out) with something that was heavy for 5 dollars (saved $250) and put it on the self checkout rack next to it so it could demagnetize.
Next time I plan on buying a product through cashier and scan the bar code and get stickers and print em out and stick them on and go through the cashier.
I tried it another time with a door lock and I thought I got the right barcode with the collection, I saved from canadian tire. I got an item that was too light and I ended up paying the whole price for it  but then I refunded it.
And if your ever buying ink for a printer and you don't want to risk "shoplifting" either security is tight or something like that, all you gotta do buy an ink cartridge take it out and swap the old one with it (wash it with rubbing alcohol, so it looks clean) , and bring it back saying the electronics head is broken, and ask for a refund. Or if you have a printer like a lexmark or hp without the colour bundles, it's in paper box. Just take it off carefully swap it with an old one and glue the box back together and refund it saying you bought the wrong one.
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07-01-2009, 04:01 AM
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Depending on the situations I suggest one of the following
}Waistband trick- Wear athletic shorts that are tight on the waist (not too tight, you could look gay. Unless thats your thing, that is) and slip whatever it is inbetween your underwear and skin. Good for smaller things
}Put it back method-Take it, walk up to the cashier, ask how much it is. Look sad and disappointed when they say however much it is, go put it back. Once you get back to wherever it was (try to have your back to the guy) slip it into your waistband or pocket.
}Buddies in crime- One guy blocks the line of sight of the cashier. Works best in stores with 1 person.
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07-01-2009, 04:07 AM
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So, I take it nobody knows any information about security and what-not at the Apple retail stores. I want a pair of very expensive headphones, but don't know if they have any type of LP policies. |
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Frission All that shit is obvious i really doubt anyone will learn from what you said.
As for apple stores, iv noticed there is always two of them standing by the door. This isn't a problem, and probably poses the only difficulty you will have. I cant speak for the shop you're planning on, but head phones will probably have a sticker security tag. (peel it off and make sure none is left on the package) If you dont wanna steal it, buy the head phones, about an hour later take the receipt back into the shop with bag, pick up the headphones from the shelf, put them in the bag and then exchange it. Trust me, they wont know its unpaid for. | | | |
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Originally Posted by tomone Frission All that shit is obvious i really doubt anyone will learn from what you said.
As for apple stores, iv noticed there is always two of them standing by the door. This isn't a problem, and probably poses the only difficulty you will have. I cant speak for the shop you're planning on, but head phones will probably have a sticker security tag. (peel it off and make sure none is left on the package) If you dont wanna steal it, buy the head phones, about an hour later take the receipt back into the shop with bag, pick up the headphones from the shelf, put them in the bag and then exchange it. Trust me, they wont know its unpaid for. | The problem is, some have it inside the package. You might be better off getting a neodymium magnet, might ruin the headphones though. Not sure if they have RFID chips, they shouldn't thought, they're just headphones. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Frission
}Waistband trick- Wear athletic shorts that are tight on the waist (not too tight, you could look gay. Unless thats your thing, that is) and slip whatever it is inbetween your underwear and skin. Good for smaller things.
}Put it back method-Take it, walk up to the cashier, ask how much it is. Look sad and disappointed when they say however much it is, go put it back. Once you get back to wherever it was (try to have your back to the guy) slip it into your waistband or pocket.
| It's alot easier to just just slip it in your pocket in a blindspot.
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07-02-2009, 04:53 AM
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I just somewhat figured out how I'm gonna do it. I'm going to buy those headphones legit, get a receipt, and watch EVERY move the cashier makes when handling the headphones.
If he/she doesn't make any sort of movement such as deactivating a sensor, its safe to assume that there are no sensors. I will then go to a diff store and snatch the headphones, go back to the original store and return the legit product.
However, if the associate makes a gesture, likes he/she is deactivating a sensor, I'll just return the headphones with some fake ass made up story.
Any tips or tweaking to my plan, my fellow BombShockers care to add? |
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bring a knife and cut the head phones out of the packet?
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I dunno how the apple stores are designed where you're from, but here in the states, they are kinda built like hallways with shelves, and like a beehive, they are swarming with workers, especially on the weekends. So, there really isn't a place for me to disappear to inorder to cut the packaging open with a knife. Plus, most apple customers are nosy as fuck.
Also, the headphones I want are in that hard plastic packaging, the kind you HAVE to use a knife to open them. So, I'm thinking I'm gonna go with my original plan.
Execution of said "plan" is tomorrow. I'll report back on how it went down. |
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Originally Posted by P-TownClepto I just somewhat figured out how I'm gonna do it. I'm going to buy those headphones legit, get a receipt, and watch EVERY move the cashier makes when handling the headphones.
If he/she doesn't make any sort of movement such as deactivating a sensor, its safe to assume that there are no sensors. I will then go to a diff store and snatch the headphones, go back to the original store and return the legit product.
However, if the associate makes a gesture, likes he/she is deactivating a sensor, I'll just return the headphones with some fake ass made up story.
Any tips or tweaking to my plan, my fellow BombShockers care to add? | You make it much more complicated then it needs to be. I wrote about it a few pst up, jus do that |
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Well I think you should just get an apple bag, on a crouded day, like on the weekend, or a friday and look at the headphones and get a neodymium magnet and swipe across the tag and there might be another one inside so just swipe it for a minute or two, put it in the apple bag and walk out with someone who just bought something. | | | |
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Hey guys,
So I pretty much figured out the answer to my own question about Sephora. I'll give my tips to those of you who want to steal their makeup (in case you don't know, they charge like $20 each for a single item like lipstick or eyeliner).
Go to a Sephora store that is within a department store. If you're eyeing a Sephora store that is exclusively Sephora, don't bother. They usually have more employees than customers. They prowl the aisles like wild cats stalking their pray. Every single person working there will ask if you need help within 30 seconds of walking in. It's a nightmare whether you want to steal or not.
If you go to a JC Penny, for example, that has a Sephora within it, perfect. There is usually only one girl working in the Sephora department, and Sephora does have aisles (it's not like the regular expensive makeup sections you find in department stores). The Sephora I went to had security cameras, but they were only focused on two sections of the Sephora aisles.
The actual stealing of the makeup was a cinch. The one woman working there came up to me, I asked her a few questions about makeup until she seemed annoyed, and then I did the whole "grab two identical items and drop one in your previous shopping bag" trick.
Now I have a question about booster bags. I know how to test one, and if I go through with it, I will use a Frederick's bag I have and just use it at the mall (since that's the one place where people aren't going to find it suspicious that you're carrying a bag). My question is, how many layers of tin foil will I need to make sure that it won't set of a single alarm?  | |
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Originally Posted by Deathrock Now I have a question about booster bags. I know how to test one, and if I go through with it, I will use a Frederick's bag I have and just use it at the mall (since that's the one place where people aren't going to find it suspicious that you're carrying a bag). My question is, how many layers of tin foil will I need to make sure that it won't set of a single alarm? | In my opinion, have a rare earth magnet under your hand a swipe it against the magnetized strips to deactivate it and slip it in your bag/pocket. I"m not sure about the aluminum foil, I've never tried it. |
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a bit elaborate, but it works well
me and my mate did this the other day:
1. get small bin (might be tricky) and put it next to a shop door. We put a sign on it saying "put your old receipts in here, don't litter!" but you probably don't have to
2. wait a while, then come back and get the receipts without arousing too much suspicion.
3. go into the shop, perhaps with a bag, and get "refunds" for the more expensive stuff that you "bought", using the receipts.
The store can't really not refund you, unless they have proof that you didn't buy the item. We did this in a couple of stores with a small bin we found, and made nearly £100 
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Mmmm anybody got any tips for lifting from a smallish cvs that has a bunch of cameras?
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Originally Posted by Husky Mmmm anybody got any tips for lifting from a smallish cvs that has a bunch of cameras? | In my Opinion, shoplifting from a convenience store (that's what you mean by cvs, right?) is a lot more riskier than going to a supermarket, a walmart or a large chain store. I wouldn't recommend it, what are you trying to get from a convenience store? You can probably get all the stuff that the convenience store at a large chain store.
If you do need to steal things from a convenience store, I would recommend you go in when there is another person at the store, so the owner is occupied and during that time, pocket what you need. |
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Convenience stores tend to have several cameras recording throughout the day, but in most cases, nobody is watching them. Unlike large department stores, small shops can't afford to (Or don't want to) pay someone to sit in an office all day and watch cameras. At least a few of the cameras are often fake, in place only to deter potential shoplifters. The footage recorded by the functional cameras will usually only be referenced in the case of a robbery or similar crime.
If you can get in, conceal your merchandise without being seen by an employee, buy something small to avoid suspicion, then get out quickly, you will be successful. |
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I do this at Safeway all the time, there's no alarm thing at doors
walk in grab item and walk out.
For bigger stores I just grab item(s) go into bathroom and cut the item out of the package. Most wal-marts have a bathroom in the back that people rarely use.
Where can i get a neodymium magnet or rare earth magnet, both of those deactivate the alarm strip right. |
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I also use the 3 person method: which has 2 of your buddies gaurd both ends of an isle watching for people (big stores usually have a few plain clothes walking around) grab item strip off the alarm strip while watching for cameras and walk out with a bunch of people or a family that resembles me, i.e. white, same hair color, same height etc... |
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that is ridiculous! all of it. i will start a new thread will legit, 100% true methods of shoplifting as I have years of experience working for corporations. | | ~ | |
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Well the CVS is a bigger than a gas station convient store. Its the size of a big rite aid and there is never more than 1 person at the register.
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Originally Posted by Husky Well the CVS is a bigger than a gas station convient store. Its the size of a big rite aid and there is never more than 1 person at the register. | That's simple, pocket in a blindspot and go. |
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Mkay. Thanks
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ok so im sure your all wondering why im making a new thread right? well i was looking at the official thread for this topic and (no offense) as i read more and more replies i felt more stupid. it was as if some cops posted some of those replies- might as well have said walk in, grab a cart, load everything expensive and walk out! I mean do you really want to get caught?
right about now your probably wondering how i get off making these accusations?
**IVE GOT YEARS OF LOSS PREVENTION/ ASSET PROTECTION/ SECURITY EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR BIG TIME RETAILERS**
IN FACT, I KNOW THE RULES AND POLICIES SOME AND MOST HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO STOP A PERSON... ONE STEP MISSED = HUGE LAWSUIT! I EVEN HAVE SOME OF THEIR "LOSS PREVENTION MANUALS" IN HAND AND ALL FOR YOU.
ITS ABOUT TIME PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO STEAL, WHEN TO STEAL, WHERE TO STEAL AND GET AWAY WITH IT- AND ALL WITH MINIMAL RISK.
THIS THREAD WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE MOST EASY WAYS TO STEAL (ANYTHING) AND GET AWAY A FREE MAN. | | | shoplifting and retail theft 101 - your true knowledge database | |
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Alright first and foremost- just wanted to apologize for the length of time it's taken me to get back to this... as I've been busy with classes and work. The first thing you need to remember with all shop lifting is that the "typical shoplifter" gets caught the most. this is the guy who selects something, wonders around for a bit (not shopping), heads to the fitting room and makes a quick selection immediately before entering the fitting room. then when he leaves the fitting room- the LP heads in and whala! the item that he first selected is no longer there!!! they just caught themselves another shoplifter.
-DON'T DO THE ABOVE-
...unless you like paying restitution and or obtaining a police record.
**KEY POINT**
The shoplifter who does not get caught is one who is efficient. what I mean is that he cuts out all the riff raft waste of time (walking around, fitting room, bathroom, etc) and steals. these two are the most profitable as well. BE IN AND BE OUT!!! once you have selected the stuff you want to steal and depending on how expensive it is (be careful not to be to obvious selecting pricey thing or you will be watched) and once that's done head out of the store and into a car. best method that would P*SS me off when I was doing LP were the grab and runners because they'd be in and out before I could do anything or set up and the cops would show up when the shoplifters would be long gone (im talking 30mins later).
**ANOTHER KEY POINT**
All stores like Macy's, Kohls, Fry's, Best Buy... etc have what I call "Rules for engagement" These are their policies/steps that have to be met in order to be able to stop a shoplifter. Most have 4 or 5, some have 6... some are more loose with following them, and a few have to follow those steps word-for-word- like Fry's Electronics.
Gotta go get ready for class, but more to come in my next posting about the places I've worked LP for and how to get away scotch free as well as places I know will not stop you because they can't. I'll go so far as to discuss what the LP world refers to as a "bad stop" or stopping someone when they don't have the merchandise on them.
btw... bad stops are also profitable- as it's false imprisonment and the retailers will pay a couple of 1000's to clear it up (I've seen a 20k one) | |
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Possible update? i would love to hear more about LP. | | | |
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Originally Posted by slyguy2009 All stores like Macy's, Kohls, Fry's, Best Buy... etc have what I call "Rules for engagement" These are their policies/steps that have to be met in order to be able to stop a shoplifter. Most have 4 or 5, some have 6... some are more loose with following them, and a few have to follow those steps word-for-word- like Fry's Electronics.
| True, I was stealing some games to sell from walmart in a large shopping mall. I stole it, went to washroom to remove tags etc, walked out of the store, but I noticed that a person was following me, well not on my back but at a distance and the face resembled it. I was never on camera where I concealed the merchandise, so I guess, it didn't fulfill their "rules of engagement", they followed me for about 2 hours in the mall and I circled the perfume department until they lost sight for me for about 30 seconds and I darted outside of the mall, re-entered at another entrance to the opposite side of the mall and I ran out and drove away.
I was pretty sure they were LP, following me waiting for me to take out the merchandise.
If you could, could you list the rules of engagement at the stores you have worked at ? | | |
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