The fastest way to turn $400 into $40 000

[thelilone]

If anyone has any ideas , please share them

P.S. When I say fastest I mean for a year max.

[crazy white guy]

tools

sawzall = 300$
hammer = 50$
snips = 20$
asorted small tools = however much you want to pay

profit

shop safe = 10 -100g

small shops like clothing stores should have at least 5g's and bigger stores like Walmart and superstore should have 50g+

[thelilone]

and how the hell am i supposed to rob a safe in a shop?

[Steve_TPF]

Originally Posted by thelilone

The fastest way to turn $400 into $40 000
If anyone has any ideas , please share them

P.S. When I say fastest I mean for a year max.

1: Spend your $400 on a new suit.

2: Get a job. Keep it for a year.

[thelilone]

And i will be glad if you tell me where people pay $40 000 for a year

[joe provacci]

400 is pretty shit to start with, but it can be done if you hustle for the next 365 days hard, no breaks. which is kinda fucked.

doing one thing on it's own won't make it up to $40 000 on it's own. you'll have to begin with one and work to the others. and making money illegitimaily isn't as easy as one types it.

to best way to double your money is drugs. you seem along the lines of beginer level so i'd say weed and e, since these customers are the least hassle if you deal with the right people.

i'm sure you can find pot heads, and club kids/girls who like to party. work the money up until you can go for the next venture.

i could sit here all day and go through it, but i aint on your pay roll.

[Steve_TPF]

Originally Posted by thelilone

And i will be glad if you tell me where people pay $40 000 for a year

Depends on your age and skills. If you are 18 or over, a good suit and an ability to lie would get you a job in sales. If you are under 18 (and I presume you are) then your options are more limited. Before you attempt any of the illegal options that others are going to present you might want to consider that most people who make a living from crime go to jail at some point. (Usually several points.)

Re: crazy white guy's suggestion: any safe that contains large amounts of cash isn't going to be cracked by an amateur with hand tools. It will also have additional security around it (alarms, cameras, locked doors etc).

Selling drugs has its drawbacks too - suppliers, customers, and jail time is almost guaranteed if you get caught.
The best solution for you is probably to find cash-in-hand work where you won't pay tax. Get some experience and qualifications and go from there.
I confidently predict that you won't get rich following any of the advice you get here. (My advice won't make you rich either, but it will make you much more comfortable then you would be in jail.)

[RallyNoChaos]

Any scam involving you pulling in $40,000 illegitimately will land you under investigation.

But if you were to get into carding, Visa/MasterCard cvv2's run about $3 apiece and say you bought 100 for $300 and made $150 profit from each of them (buying goods with them online and selling on ebay), you would end up turning that original $300 into $15,000.

But this would require you using multiple drop sites with multiple fake IDs.

[thelilone]

And where exactly can i buy Visa/MasterCard cvv2's ?
I was watching a tv show about an irc channel where people sell these stuff.And also paypal accounts and other things but they didnt say what the channel is or anything.

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

As if they would on tv lol...same with TRH, they miss out key points, take example on the card catcher they didn't mention that the bottom has to be transparent so the stripe can be read.

With $400 I'm damn positive you can make a skimmer, although it won't look the best. PM me if you want directions for making an ATM skimmer.

I'll mention also what is a good money maker besides carding; Nigerian scams...extremely easy to pull off on craigslist, and people still do fall for the ones which can steal up to 10s to 100s of thousands over e-mail, although you'll need a carribean bank account or one in hong kong (swiss don't work well anymore). I'd honestly say that maybe in a few years I'd move to Nigeria to make the most of this scam if I was that way inclined (the nigerian government over there don't give a shit about it and most of the time they're in on the scams. Closing down on this scam would be the nigerians equivalent of vegas making gambling illegal; missing out on a lot of profit)

Getting a huge list of e-mails is childs play with the correct programs (PM me if you want one).

Don't bother with irc or bullshit like that...cut the foreplay and middle man out and profit fully yourself.

I'm talking with you over PM anyway so ask any questions that you have about carding or 419 scams (nigerian) and I'll help out.

[joe provacci]

people still fall for 419 scams? wow.. i figured the guys in white trucks and the fake speakers where pulling in more look than them..

any interesting ones [419 scams] still around slim ? that people actually fall for?

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

Most of the recent ones I've had through are concerning winning the lottery and asking for various details. Also the mainly successful ones are one craigslist of offering to buy an item from someone and then sending a fake cheque stating more than the deal of the item..they even have an extra excuse for this to pay an extra for shipping costs..they then asking them to cash the cheque in and draw out the remaining cash to wire back to them...because they more or less have to be cashed straight away it's the perfect excuse.

Alot of them have gotten smarter with their phishing e-mails for online bank accounts as well, they use html and images so that keywords that set the spam filter off won't work.

The fact is no matter what variation of the scam they're doing over e-mail or craigslist there are millions of people being sent this e-mail and millions of people selling shit on craigslist, a few people out those million are bound to fall for it.

The excuse I'd use on craigslist if questioned about western union would be because of the security measures of having to have a secret question and needing ID for over $1000, and that the message on craigslist warning about money wiring is mainly aiming on moneygram because it was known to have been used by nigerian scammers and has no security measures; where as western union is quick and secure(if I was that way inclined ). That's how most others do it as well. The more security measures someone thinks they have then the more likely they are to take the bait.

Many have started using order forms as well and posting them through peoples doors...obviously all details go straight back to the scammer.

There's so many variations of the scam and new ones every day.

The reason the ones who are actually working in nigeria make so much is because they have government in on the scam and if they can get the victim over to nigeria they'll bribe customs to let the person through without a visa (which is illegal for the victim) and they'll leech them dry or maybe even rob and kill them.

They're amongst my favourite scams although the scammers themselves are looked down on by other well known scammers such as the chinese, russian and turks; but to be honest the nigerians don't give a fuck.

[Call_Me_Bitches]

Fastest way to turn $400 into ...hold up...not just $4,000, but $40,000?

Legally or Illegally?

Illegal would be extremely risky, but the highest probability outcome of the fastest way "obviously."

Legally would be slow and moderately-pretty much risky and have to be through an extremely luck gamble or investment.

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

Also drug dealing...big time money maker. I'd definitely get back into doing it if I wanted to.

[bloodlusta]

send me the $400. in 1 year i will send you $39,600 worth of interest plus the $400 you gave me to start off with. it will work trust me lol jj.

don't try to make one big lot of money, start off small and get good at what ever your doing to get the money. then take it one step up and keep going from there. never set your self time limits to make the money it will just make you rush it and fuck up.

[PsychoGuy08]

WITH UR $400 bye a ski mask and a flak jacket then buy a .45 n sport bag (dunno wat its really called) and wait till theres not alot of customers in mcdonalds rob em the get @ least 10k a day so if you do that every wekk ull end up with 520k send me 480k and keep ur 40k simple yet gd

[joe provacci]

Originally Posted by Steve_TPF

Depends on your age and skills. If you are 18 or over, a good suit and an ability to lie would get you a job in sales. If you are under 18 (and I presume you are) then your options are more limited. Before you attempt any of the illegal options that others are going to present you might want to consider that most people who make a living from crime go to jail at some point. (Usually several points.)

Re: crazy white guy's suggestion: any safe that contains large amounts of cash isn't going to be cracked by an amateur with hand tools. It will also have additional security around it (alarms, cameras, locked doors etc).

Selling drugs has its drawbacks too - suppliers, customers, and jail time is almost guaranteed if you get caught.
The best solution for you is probably to find cash-in-hand work where you won't pay tax. Get some experience and qualifications and go from there.
I confidently predict that you won't get rich following any of the advice you get here. (My advice won't make you rich either, but it will make you much more comfortable then you would be in jail.)

Bro (or sis) why do you even waste your life posting onthis board? you hav 1000+ posts on an underground forum, but every one is telling people to get jobs. ya if eople wanted jobs man, they would get them, but not every one wants pawn in the game of corprate tom fuckery. u think crime doesnt pay? meybe not for the people on these boards (hey meybe a few get it working) but im pretty sure peoplesupports familys/small countries with crime.

whats the point? who are you my fucking dad? i dont get hy you waste such time, and comment on every thing, but really contribute shit.

maybe you should look at why you're posting on such a message board and why you waste your life.

[squat251]

400 dollars worth of lottery tickets the easy picks sounds like a fairly decent way of doing it, or 400 scrach offs

[bloodlusta]

Originally Posted by joe provacci

Bro (or sis) why do you even waste your life posting onthis board? you hav 1000+ posts on an underground forum, but every one is telling people to get jobs. ya if eople wanted jobs man, they would get them, but not every one wants pawn in the game of corprate tom fuckery. u think crime doesnt pay? meybe not for the people on these boards (hey meybe a few get it working) but im pretty sure peoplesupports familys/small countries with crime.

whats the point? who are you my fucking dad? i dont get hy you waste such time, and comment on every thing, but really contribute shit.

maybe you should look at why you're posting on such a message board and why you waste your life.

dude maybe because they actually know what their talking about. Iv made money from stealing ($600 in 1 day record) but i would much rather have a good job, at least you know that your going to get paid at the end of the day and that you don't run the risk of ending up in jail being ass raped by some big Maori guy. people steal because they need to, not for some childish whim. stealing losses its appeal if you have to do it day after day.

[Steve_TPF]

Originally Posted by joe provacci

Bro (or sis) why do you even waste your life posting onthis board?

I post here because I enjoy conversation and debate. Believe it or not, this isn't the only thing I do. I have a job, hobbies and interests.

Originally Posted by joe provacci

you hav 1000+ posts on an underground forum, but every one is telling people to get jobs.

You have read all of my posts? That must have taken a while. I'm sure that only a handful of my posts have actually mentioned the benefits of paid employment.

Originally Posted by joe provacci

ya if eople wanted jobs man, they would get them, but not every one wants pawn in the game of corprate tom fuckery.

You really need to check your spelling and grammar. That sentence was almost incoherent. I didn't say anything about being a corporate pawn, I said that getting a job is the safest, most reliable way of earning money.

Originally Posted by joe provacci

u think crime doesnt pay? meybe not for the people on these boards (hey meybe a few get it working) but im pretty sure peoplesupports familys/small countries with crime.

I don't believe that crime pays in the long run, no, not for most people. What is the average income of a street mugger, housebreaker or small-time drug dealer? Do these jobs come with benefits such as sick leave, holiday pay and superanuation? When you factor in jail time, what is the average income then?

A minority of people do make a comfortable living from crime, but most don't. Those that do have some degree of street smarts and don't need to ask strangers on the internet how to go about making money.

Originally Posted by joe provacci

whats the point? who are you my fucking dad? i dont get hy you waste such time, and comment on every thing, but really contribute shit.

maybe you should look at why you're posting on such a message board and why you waste your life.

I comment because it amuses me to do so. I don't need any other reason. Since I do plenty of other things besides post here, no I'm not wasting my life.

What do you do with yours?