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Originally Posted by fsmites hey guys, i just signed up to the forum, but ive been following it for a few weeks now. thanks, shetlan and murderskillz for the work youve put into this thread. anyway, ive been washing bills since i found this site a few weeks ago pretty much flawlessly, but everytime i get to the reprint step, my printer jams  upon reprinting on the paper with a blank bill taped to it, even carefully alligned With blue tape, not scotch.. I'm going to keep working on it, but do either of yiou guys have any suggestions?
:?:? | If your printer is jamming just as the bill enters it (bill is flipping in the printer), then you might need to tape it down more securely along the bottom edge.
If it's jamming from the thickness, then you might just need a different printer.
What kind are you using?
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06-05-2009, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fsmites hey guys, i just signed up to the forum, but ive been following it for a few weeks now. thanks, shetlan and murderskillz for the work youve put into this thread. anyway, ive been washing bills since i found this site a few weeks ago pretty much flawlessly, but everytime i get to the reprint step, my printer jams  upon reprinting on the paper with a blank bill taped to it, even carefully alligned With blue tape, not scotch.. I'm going to keep working on it, but do either of yiou guys have any suggestions?
:?:? | Thanks shetlan and you as well. I had the same thing happen to me every time. So this is what I did. After removing from the clean water bath I ironed the bill on an ironing baord to save time in the drying process and they come out perfectly flat. use low heat. 2 out of 10 on the dial. Then get Scotch REMOVABLE double sided tape. Please make sure you get removable. Works like a charm. I put more on the bottom where it feeds into the printer for extra security. Code: X-------X---------X <Top
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X-------X---------X <Middle
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X---X---X---X----X <Bottom This should help you out. X's are tape on the bill. I have also included a picture of the tape to get to make it easier at the store for you. Pretty expensive for the little bit you get but it pays for itself.
Real or fake? 
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06-06-2009, 12:37 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | hey i have a question after i wash my bills and print on them the ink doesn't come out as clear as it does on regular printing paper and it looks dark.. is that something that happens or am i doing something wrong | 
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Originally Posted by crivera1470 hey i have a question after i wash my bills and print on them the ink doesn't come out as clear as it does on regular printing paper and it looks dark.. is that something that happens or am i doing something wrong | You may not be letting the bills dry completely.
Incidentally, as Skillz pointed out earlier, you can skip the washing phase if you use 20lb 100% cotton "Thesis Paper".
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06-06-2009, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by crivera1470 hey i have a question after i wash my bills and print on them the ink doesn't come out as clear as it does on regular printing paper and it looks dark.. is that something that happens or am i doing something wrong | I know what your talking about. Is it a scan and printed from a program or did you just hit the copy button? Usually when that happens that means the background of the bill is too dark. Try making the background lighter but keep the black and green etc the same color. Or darker if you like. Is there a weird funky green with the borders? | 
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Originally Posted by MurderSkillz I know what your talking about. Is it a scan and printed from a program or did you just hit the copy button? Usually when that happens that means the background of the bill is too dark. Try making the background lighter but keep the black and green etc the same color. Or darker if you like. Is there a weird funky green with the borders? |
Yeah I'm just hitting the copy button I'm not using any photoshop. I guess I'm gonna try that thesis paper out then. I just wanna know which kind because they have a few different ones.. Exceptional, Fine, Acid Free..
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06-07-2009, 04:19 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | Just do what I do, Open up the packaging and feel it. lol If it don't feel right throw it back in with the pile and open a different kind.
As for just hitting copy. I cannot do that because when it comes out the crossing fine black lines behind the head of whoever. There is a strange rainbow color that is created I guess to deter stuff like that with my lexmark scanner/printer. It even did it in photoshop. Then I found this little thing called something like. Let photoshop manage colors. Came out perfect. My scanner was capable of it but didn't allow it. That's why I turned to photoshop to control the coloring. It also allowed me to make any corrections, like bigger or smaller margin, removing rips or tears in the bill, aligning the bills from front to back, and much more.
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06-07-2009, 04:41 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | This thread is full of interesting info.. but I just have one question. How difficult and what considerations must be taken with Canadian tender? |  | |  | 
06-07-2009, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ttrp This thread is full of interesting info.. but I just have one question. How difficult and what considerations must be taken with Canadian tender? | Most if not all of us don't care about a currency we don't use. lol You would have to talk to someone who is familiar with Canadian currency or maybe use some of the information that we have provided and possibly use it for the currency you want.
Looking at some pictures of some canadian currency. It actually looks to be quite difficult. I see many different colors, I see a security strip on the right, maybe a hologram security strip on the left of the head, some lines of color going different directions (some scanners/printers it's hard to imitate), the feel of the paper, any security tests that might come into play (pens, uv lights), microprint. If I were you I would look for older currency that is still in circulation with less security features.
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06-07-2009, 05:52 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | thanks. yeah Canadian currency in the past years have gotten really difficult. and this topic was so interesting to me! haha Thanks though | 
06-07-2009, 06:57 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | No problem. In Canadian currency are there still any bills in circulation with less security features of the ones I stated? Do some research. If so, shoot for those ones. | 
06-07-2009, 08:02 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | they exist, but not in much circulation, and are still harder than American bills. I will try and find some and will report back here when I do | 
06-07-2009, 08:50 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | Doesn't matter if they are "rare". The bills I post pictures of on here are very rare but are still in circulation. Doesn't matter if they are rare as long as they are still in circulation. | 
06-08-2009, 07:25 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | sorry to bug.. why does the color come out black and white.. is it some kinda security feature? | 
06-08-2009, 08:34 PM
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What method do you use to clean your bills, ive tried the lye method but havent had much luck.
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06-08-2009, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MurderSkillz Thanks shetlan and you as well. I had the same thing happen to me every time. So this is what I did. After removing from the clean water bath I ironed the bill on an ironing baord to save time in the drying process and they come out perfectly flat. use low heat. 2 out of 10 on the dial. Then get Scotch REMOVABLE double sided tape. Please make sure you get removable. Works like a charm. I put more on the bottom where it feeds into the printer for extra security. Code: X-------X---------X <Top
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X-------X---------X <Middle
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X---X---X---X----X <Bottom This should help you out. X's are tape on the bill. I have also included a picture of the tape to get to make it easier at the store for you. Pretty expensive for the little bit you get but it pays for itself.
Real or fake?  | Skillz,
the coloring and everything on that $50 looks great. Are you using the deodorant method in case they decide to use the pen test? I know with the older bills you dont have to deal with all the security issues, but it seems like using them might throw some flags since no one ever sees the old bills anymore.
I've been following the thread for a while now trying to decide if I want to give it a shot or not. Definitely not worth the hassle of trying to wash the bills, IMO. Still using the 20 lb paper and canon printer or have you found something better? Thanks for all the info you've provided so far. Much appreciated.
edit: just re read your post. Is that a washed bill? I thought you had moved on from trying to wash to just printing and trying to get the right consistency of the paper, but now I'm not sure.
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06-08-2009, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Coca-Cola sorry to bug.. why does the color come out black and white.. is it some kinda security feature? | I'm not sure what you are asking. A security feature of what?
@Mvpsoriano Lye. Same method as stated. I don't understand what the problems you guys are having with lye. I haven't had a problem yet unless the lye isn't fully dissolved before the bill is dropped in.
I believe from memory it's 3 tbl spoons per 2 litters.
@rpz81 The 50's are on 20 LB paper. If you can find 22 lb that would probably do best. I have been unable to find it at the stores though. That bill was my first test after changing a bit of the colors up. The backside of the bill was coming out way to dark. Looks great now. As for deodorant. That bill doesn't have it seeing it was just a test. But I am working on tweaking the deodorant method by the way. It passes the pen test better but takes a bit more work and time. Still doing testing though, to see how reliable it is. It's pretty much the oil in the deodorant that creates the barrier between the paper and the iodine pen.
PS.rpz81 I went to the local bank where they had a bunch of older 5's with the small heads. I used them at stores to see if anyone thought they were suspicious. Everyone treated it like money being printed today. Didn't second think it or anything. And even at walmart I saw a lady use an older 20 (real lol). I waited to see what the cashier did. Popped it the drawer and thought nothing of it. That is where I got my 50 from =) good 'ole wallie world. So see if you can find any old 5's at your bank. Use them and see what they do and how they react to it.
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06-08-2009, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MurderSkillz I'm not sure what you are asking. A security feature of what?
@Mvpsoriano Lye. Same method as stated. I don't understand what the problems you guys are having with lye. I haven't had a problem yet unless the lye isn't fully dissolved before the bill is dropped in.
I believe from memory it's 3 tbl spoons per 2 litters.
@rpz81 The 50's are on 20 LB paper. If you can find 22 lb that would probably do best. I have been unable to find it at the stores though. That bill was my first test after changing a bit of the colors up. The backside of the bill was coming out way to dark. Looks great now. As for deodorant. That bill doesn't have it seeing it was just a test. But I am working on tweaking the deodorant method by the way. It passes the pen test better but takes a bit more work and time. Still doing testing though, to see how reliable it is. It's pretty much the oil in the deodorant that creates the barrier between the paper and the iodine pen.
PS.rpz81 I went to the local bank where they had a bunch of older 5's with the small heads. I used them at stores to see if anyone thought they were suspicious. Everyone treated it like money being printed today. Didn't second think it or anything. And even at walmart I saw a lady use an older 20 (real lol). I waited to see what the cashier did. Popped it the drawer and thought nothing of it. That is where I got my 50 from =) good 'ole wallie world. So see if you can find any old 5's at your bank. Use them and see what they do and how they react to it. | Good info. thanks a lot. my next step is to try to locate an older $20. I think this will work best. the only printer I have now is a dell printer/scanner/copier that is about 3-4 years old. I can probably buy a new one for what it will cost to replace the cartridges, however. what are you personally using, and are you copying directly to the paper or using a program?
that bill is the best one i've seen so far. i've been thinking of the best ways to pass them and i've come up with a couple places that i don't think have been mentioned yet. the first place is a bar at night. unless you look really shady, it will probably be dark and they won't look twice at a decent bill. $2-3 beer and you have a good net return from a $20. i also noticed that little league/high school concession stands are another place where the person taking the money won't hardly even glance at the bill. buy a drink or some candy and pocket the change.
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06-08-2009, 10:38 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | I have personally stated a few times already that I use photoshop. Please make sure to read the whole thread before asking anymore questions. Lexmark X2600 | 
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Originally Posted by MurderSkillz I have personally stated a few times already that I use photoshop. Please make sure to read the whole thread before asking anymore questions. Lexmark X2600 | My mistake. I've been following the thread since it was about 3 pages, but I couldnt remember for sure your method of choice. I know someone (maybe Shetlan) was just copying the bill straight to the paper. | 
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Rep Power: 4 | | Ya that's what he was doing. I don't know about his but mine comes out piss pore shitty. That's why I use PS. | 
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Originally Posted by MurderSkillz Ya that's what he was doing. I don't know about his but mine comes out piss pore shitty. That's why I use PS. | Mine come out fine, but I'm using a high resolution scanner (3,000DPI) and a photoprinter.
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Rep Power: 0 | | turns out the color of the back is too pale and my printer recognizes it as b&w.. problem solved.. just had to f#*k around with settings.
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Originally Posted by shetlan Mine come out fine, but I'm using a high resolution scanner (3,000DPI) and a photoprinter. | Sorry if you took it the wrong way. I wasn't knocking of you or anything I was just pointing out they are all different. Mine comes out crappy and cannot set the resolution on the copy function. From your pictures before they look pretty nice. | 
06-10-2009, 02:59 AM
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Rep Power: 2 | | After the lye method my bills become very thin. Is there anything i can do to prevent this. I am brushing the bill so extremely soft its just the bill is very soft. I couldn't even brush lighter than i am so i dont know what else i can do. Any ideas? | 
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Rep Power: 4 | | Are you using a crisp bill? I don't understand how it can be thin if it's a new bill and you are rubbing lightly. You are doing something wrong. |  | I am a true counterfeiting pro, I can go to banks and make deposits |  | 
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Rep Power: 0 | | I am a true counterfeiting pro, I can go to banks and make deposits I NOTICED YOU GUYS ARE HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH YOUR WATERMARKS AND SECURITY STRIPS. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW I DO IT. IT WORKS EVERY TIME AND IS VERY CHEAP AND EASY. THERE IS JUST ONE PROBLEM… YEAH, BLEACHING IS COOL AND THAT COTTON PAPER IS ALRIGHT BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT SECURITY STRIPS AND WATERMARKS IN YOUR BILLS, YOU WILL HAVE TO LEARN A NEW COUNTERFEITING METHOD (ITS BETTER BY THE WAY). PASSES LOOK TEST, FEEL TEST, WATERMARK TEST, SECURITY STRIP TEST, I CAN ALSO TELL YOU HOW TO MAKE THE INK SHIFT COLORS. I DID SOME FEDERAL PRISON TIME AND I’M ONLY 19 BUT THE GUYS UP THERE WERE REAL PROS AND TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PRINTING QUALITY (ONLY) COUNTERFEIT. I CAN TELL YOU HOW TO REMAGNETIZE THE PAPER TOO. SPECIFIC THINGS ON SPECIFIC BILLS ARE MAGNETIZED, HELPS SCANNERS READ IT. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANNA STEP YOUR GAME UP. --also, email me at mikehaynes26@yahoo.com (not my real name!) |  | 
06-11-2009, 01:04 AM
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Rep Power: 4 | | Why not post some info then. I have no clue what makes you think anyone in their right mind will even send you a simple Hi to your email. |  | Then Shetlan must not be in his right mind. He emailed me |  | 
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Rep Power: 0 | | Then Shetlan must not be in his right mind. He emailed me I will post my method. Have you heard of rice paper? It is super thin and delicate. However, 2 pieces of it (or 3) has the correct consistency of genuine American currency. It is Japanese paper and each sheet is approximately 12lb paper. So 2 pieces comes out to the feel of approximately 24lb paper but the important part is that it FEELS LIKE GENUINE AMERICAN CURRENCY. I have never been able to find this paper in Staples, Office Depot, or Office Max. You have to order it online or go to specialty paper suppliers. Online is best. The average price for one ream (500 sheets) is $35. Pretty cheap considering how much you can make. The strips are easy too, they are typed in the font called "Lilliputian" (all bills) if you go to Office Depot, Staples, or Office Max and ask for clear Overhead paper that can be printed on via Laserprinter or inkjet printer, they will show it to you. THAT is what you print the USA 20 (then a small flag on newer bills) onto. Ever heard of a paper cutter? Print a full page of security strips via copy and pasting then cut them all out evenly. Would you like a detailed step by step plan on how to do this method? I havent even told you about the watermarks yet. But I will tell you this. I did NOT come up with this method, it was told to me by many people in the federal peniteniary and WHEN I WAS RELEASED I DID TRY IT ACCORDING TO THEIR STEP BY STEP PLAN and it is HONEST TO GOD FLAWLESS. I DONT HAVE ANY REASON TO LIE, I JUST WANT TO HELP YOU GUYS LIKE THEY HELPED ME. I'M TRYING TO PAY IT FORWARD. WE WERENT ALL BLESSED WITH MILLIONS AT A YOUNG AGE. BUT WITH THE KNOWLEGE I CAN GIVE YOU: LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT. SO DON'T BE MAD BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT, I STILL WENT THRU A LOT OF FIGHTING IN PRISON SO I EARNED MY RESPECT. IF YOU ARE SCARED OF SUPER NOTES DONT CONTACT ME. THATS WHY I PUT UP MY EMAIL ADDRESS, SOME PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH AND DONT WANT SUCCESS. I'M SORRY BUT I FEEL YOU FALL IN THIS CATEGORY. BEFORE, I HAD RESPECT FOR YOU AND SHETLAN (WHO DID EMAIL ME BY THE WAY). I STILL HAVE RESPECT FOR HIM BECAUSE HE IS SO KNOWLEGEABLE AND HAS REAL DRIVE. I WILL BE SENDING HIM A DETAILED STEP BY STEP PLAN VERY SOON BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST PUT IT ON THE SITE. SO, ENOUGH EXPLAINING MYSELF...THIS SITE IS ABOUT COUNTERFEITING ON A HIGHER LEVEL. I WILL READ YOUR POSTS AND REPLIES AND IF YOU WANT MY METHOD I'LL POST IT. IF YOU DONT, SAY SO AND I'LL FIND PEOPLE WHO WANT SUCCESS ON ANOTHER SITE. I DONT THINK I'M BETTER THAN ANYONE, I ONLY KNOW THE THINGS I KNOW BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD TO ME AND WHEN I TRIED IT, IT TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE. FEDERAL PRISON IS REAL SCHOOL. |  | 
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