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Rep Power: 1 | | Someone asked about "washing" bills...I used to use high grade oven cleaner (Cisco brand industrial) and it didn't degrade the paper at all...it just stunk up the kitchen really bad!! | 
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Rep Power: 1 | | That's ok, bro...there ARE many different methods, look for the tutorial by dudewheresmytardis, it made the most sense to me...that's just my opinion | 
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Originally Posted by in the game shit all i'm asking for is a step by step tutorial it doesn't have to be a video, i tried to keep up with the older post but it got 2 confusing because it seems like there are many different methods | There are different methods based on what you're trying to do - so what are YOU trying to do. Are you trying to print high denominations from "cleaned" $5's? Are you trying to print bills from scratch? What are you trying to do?
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09-19-2009, 01:13 AM
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Both you and MurderSkillz methods have changed since this topic was started months ago.
It would make a lot more sense to post what you have discovered works the best with this.
Unless you want to keep writing, ( has already been covered in previous post)
I think you have better things to do than write that all the time. | 
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Originally Posted by defenderofthefaith Shetlan,
Both you and MurderSkillz methods have changed since this topic was started months ago.
It would make a lot more sense to post what you have discovered works the best with this.
Unless you want to keep writing, ( has already been covered in previous post)
I think you have better things to do than write that all the time. | That - like soo many other things - has already been discussed in a previous post. We've already done the "this is what we've found to work the best" updates - people still keep asking the same questions.
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09-19-2009, 06:57 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | oh ok well in that case i'm intrested in trying to print high denominations from "cleaned" $5's, would it be possible for you to brief me real quick, thanks. | 
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Originally Posted by in the game oh ok well in that case i'm intrested in trying to print high denominations from "cleaned" $5's, would it be possible for you to brief me real quick, thanks. | Quick write up:
3 Tablespoons of lye
2 quarts of water
A tooth brush
Let the bill soak in the water and lye for 30minutes or so. After it's soaked, move it to a hot water bath and gently wipe it with the tip of the brush. It's comes off perfectly. There's a small amount of left-over ink, but printing the new face will cover that up. Use $5's.
Make sure the bill goes in all at once and straight. If it enters the solution uneven, part of the bill will be deformed.
As for printing, you can either scan a bill into photoshop and use that to print onto the bill or just directly copy it onto the new bill.
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09-19-2009, 07:42 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I don't have lye anywhere around me, Ive been experimenting with Draino and it works at taking the ink off but also takes paper off in the process leaving the bill worn and almost paper thin. I read about someone using Easy Off Oven Cleaner and I found it at a local store but didn't buy it yet. Anyone have any experience with that. | 
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Originally Posted by IGETIT I don't have lye anywhere around me, Ive been experimenting with Draino and it works at taking the ink off but also takes paper off in the process leaving the bill worn and almost paper thin. I read about someone using Easy Off Oven Cleaner and I found it at a local store but didn't buy it yet. Anyone have any experience with that. | Easy off was suggested by another poster a long time ago - I tried it but it didn't work very well.
For lye - go to your local hardware store and find Rooto drain cleaner. It will likely say "100% Lye" right on the bottle.
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09-19-2009, 08:11 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Ill try looking for that. My main problems been the bill washing I can work a computer,know how to use photoshop and all that, but I can never find the same cleaner that anyone on this site has had success with. Every time someone posts a new type of cleaner I go on a manhunt for the same exact thing but can never find it so Ive just been experimenting with different drain cleaners etc. that have sodium hydroxide in them. So, I'll try looking for that but did you have any success at all with the Easy Off or should i not even bother buying it. | 
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Originally Posted by IGETIT So, I'll try looking for that but did you have any success at all with the Easy Off or should i not even bother buying it. | Limited, it doesn't get all of the ink off and you need to do everything twice - often resulting in a bill that isn't usable.
It usually looks like this:
You can find it all over the web.
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09-19-2009, 12:22 PM
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"As for printing, you can either scan a bill into photoshop and use that to print onto the bill or just directly copy it onto the new bill."
You dolt, Photoshop won't accept currency images, although there are workarounds to get it into PS. But you have to start with a scan on your hard drive to begin with.
And you have NEVER addressed the main isssue of scanning a nice, newer bill (I have a mint 2002 series $50.....I'm not interested in pre security features bills that are a dead giveaway to even the dumbest store clerk) and getting the scanner software not to reject it. This makes me think you are a pretender who has never created anything remotely passable. Today's scanners WILL NOT scan US currency. Period end of story.
So what's your solution. Spell it out. Don't fuck with us with "we've already covered that"...I've read the thread 3 times and unless I'm senile no one has said how to do this.
One simple request. Either put up or shut up. How do you scan currency?
Sorry to sound so harsh but if one can't even get to step one, everything else discussed here is useless.
Maybe this is why you "copy" your bills. We've all tried that and even at "1200" dpi they still look like crap. So just saying "then open the image in PS" like you know what you're talking about when it's obvious you don't, only makes you sound like a complete noob. |  |  | |  | 
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Originally Posted by HarryCallahan Shetland said:
"As for printing, you can either scan a bill into photoshop and use that to print onto the bill or just directly copy it onto the new bill."
You dolt, Photoshop won't accept currency images, although there are workarounds to get it into PS. But you have to start with a scan on your hard drive to begin with.
And you have NEVER addressed the main isssue of scanning a nice, newer bill (I have a mint 2002 series $50.....I'm not interested in pre security features bills that are a dead giveaway to even the dumbest store clerk) and getting the scanner software not to reject it. This makes me think you are a pretender who has never created anything remotely passable. Today's scanners WILL NOT scan US currency. Period end of story. | Wow, are you seriously that dumb?
How many posters have already showed pictures of bills they've scanned in an re-printed? One poster linked to a news story about a counterfeiter who did just that (scan into photoshop and edit the bill). Murderskillz has posted four or five different bills that he's scanned in.
As for looking like a noob - look who's talking. All of your questions have already been answered - by several posters, most of whom have provided photographic proof of their work.
If you can't figure out how to get past photoshop's safeguards (even though skillz wrote up how to do it several times now), it's got nothing to do with not having enough info - it's about your own stupidity or laziness - take your pick. Incidentally, a google search would tell you how to get past the currency block on photoshop.
This is the kind of laziness that makes me wonder why any of us even bother.
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Originally Posted by IGETIT Ill try looking for that. My main problems been the bill washing I can work a computer,know how to use photoshop and all that, but I can never find the same cleaner that anyone on this site has had success with. Every time someone posts a new type of cleaner I go on a manhunt for the same exact thing but can never find it so Ive just been experimenting with different drain cleaners etc. that have sodium hydroxide in them. So, I'll try looking for that but did you have any success at all with the Easy Off or should i not even bother buying it. | Rootooration 100% Lye Drain Opener 1030 | 
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You are just using the 20lb 100% cotton "Thesis Paper from southworth now?
You are finding that these are working out well?
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Originally Posted by defenderofthefaith Shetlan
You are just using the 20lb 100% cotton "Thesis Paper from southworth now?
You are finding that these are working out well?
Regards | I'm not using it anymore - I'm trying to work on higher quality notes that include some of the security features. It works fine for basic copies though.
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09-20-2009, 01:45 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | OK found something that works great but the problem now is that my printer wont let me print any new bills. I wasn't really trying to print new ones anyway, I wanted to stick to older ones with less advanced security features, but I cant get my hands on any twenty,fifty's,or hundreds. I managed to get a ten but I figured it isn't worth it. Its been a lot harder than I thought to get these older bills so does anyone have any high resolution,scanned, saved images of an older twenty they can send me? I'm going to start off with the twenty's. | 
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Rep Power: 0 | | Hey guys, anyone here attempting to print custom serials on each bill? If so, let us know what methods you're using to mass print non-identical serials on each bill! Thanks. | 
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Originally Posted by noobwizzle Hey guys, anyone here attempting to print custom serials on each bill? If so, let us know what methods you're using to mass print non-identical serials on each bill! Thanks. | Murderskillz talked about that, what like 9 pages ago? Read the thread people.
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09-20-2009, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shetlan Quick write up:
3 Tablespoons of lye
2 quarts of water
A tooth brush
Let the bill soak in the water and lye for 30minutes or so. After it's soaked, move it to a hot water bath and gently wipe it with the tip of the brush. It's comes off perfectly. There's a small amount of left-over ink, but printing the new face will cover that up. Use $5's.
Make sure the bill goes in all at once and straight. If it enters the solution uneven, part of the bill will be deformed.
As for printing, you can either scan a bill into photoshop and use that to print onto the bill or just directly copy it onto the new bill. | That's an excellent method for removing the ink from the bill, however not much detail is given on getting the colors to ACCURATELY print onto the washed bill. I can verify that directly photocopying a bill with both the HP C8180 and EPSON artisan 800 printers will not yield acceptable prints. But, they WILL scan 1996 series 100 and 20 dollar bills. I've tried to edit scans from epson and hp (at both 1200 and 2400 resolutions) in adobe 7.0, cs2, and cs4 and am still unable to get the colors right. Shetlan has said that he uses a "dedicated photo printer" as well as a high resolution scanner (3,000 dpi) to photocopy the bills. The only equipment I've seen him list is a Pixma mp210 which doesn't support scanning at 3,000 dpi so there's obviously something that he's leaving out, which is fine. Murderskillz has stated that he uses a lexmark x2600 and was unable to get the bills to directly photocopy as well. But he also says that you can print accurately with the x2600 through photoshop as long as you let photoshop manage the colors. Has anyone found a way to photocopy a 1996 series 20/100 with decent results? |  | 
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Originally Posted by `sIn That's an excellent method for removing the ink from the bill, however not much detail is given on getting the colors to ACCURATELY print onto the washed bill. I can verify that directly photocopying a bill with both the HP C8180 and EPSON artisan 800 printers will not yield acceptable prints. But, they WILL scan 1996 series 100 and 20 dollar bills. I've tried to edit scans from epson and hp (at both 1200 and 2400 resolutions) in adobe 7.0, cs2, and cs4 and am still unable to get the colors right. Shetlan has said that he uses a "dedicated photo printer" as well as a high resolution scanner (3,000 dpi) to photocopy the bills. The only equipment I've seen him list is a Pixma mp210 which doesn't support scanning at 3,000 dpi so there's obviously something that he's leaving out, which is fine. Murderskillz has stated that he uses a lexmark x2600 and was unable to get the bills to directly photocopy as well. But he also says that you can print accurately with the x2600 through photoshop as long as you let photoshop manage the colors. Has anyone found a way to photocopy a 1996 series 20/100 with decent results? | Sin, almost any photo printer can do the job. I'm not going to try to give you color adjustments, as the different programs and printers will change the colors in different ways.
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Rep Power: 0 | | I'm having trouble with the taping of the bill when its ready for printing. The double sided tape that was mentioned in previous post is not working for me, when i remove the tape it rips the paper off. Ive been using this glue but at times my printer jams due to the fact the bill is not put right. Also after i clean the bills and attempt to reprint over, the color of the bill is off. Can anybody help me out with these two problems I'm having? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by crivera1470 I'm having trouble with the taping of the bill when its ready for printing. The double sided tape that was mentioned in previous post is not working for me, when i remove the tape it rips the paper off. Ive been using this glue but at times my printer jams due to the fact the bill is not put right. Also after i clean the bills and attempt to reprint over, the color of the bill is off. Can anybody help me out with these two problems I'm having? Thanks in advance. | You should be using a loop made of "Painter's Blue" tape. It's a form of masking tape that was specifically designed to be easy to remove.
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Rep Power: 1 | | The "oven cleaner" does work, but Easy-Off is the worst kind to use. Find a restaurant supply company and order Cisco Brand industrial oven cleaner...then use the same process as Shetlan described. Spray it in a dish of some kind and let the bill soak in it for about 10 min, gently rub off the ink with a soft brush and rinse well with warm water, then hang-dry the paper and iron it for crispness. |  | |  | 
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I'm curious how you obvious Einsteins get an image of a bill into Photoshop. Do you tape it to your computer screen when you open PS and hit ctrl alt del and it magically sucks it in. Or do you put one arm over the other and wrinkle your nose like the I Dream of Jeanni chick from tv. It must be something pretty clever because where I come from, nothing comes into PS except thru digital information stored on a drive. You guys remind me of the blonde chick who uses white out to edit her text on her monitor lmao. You're purposely avoiding my question while making juvenile flame attempts.
So let me put this in language my six yr old can understand: How do you scan in a 2002 or later US bill into your computer or memory stick? Is that so hard to comprehend. A very simple question.
As I said in my original post I'm not interested in using my all in one printer scanner to "copy" onto either washed bills or new paper. I want to work with the image in PS to add some more security features. I want to adjust the colors etc etc. Skillz claims to work in PS. How'd you get your scan in there skillzy old boy. Oh that's right you use bills from 1950 or something. Nevermind.
Today's scanners will not scan US currency. I merely want to know how you guys are "supposedly" doing it. After that everything is a cakewalk and I'll show you how if you can answer this one simple question. |  |  | |  | 
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Originally Posted by HarryCallahan I'm curious how you obvious Einsteins get an image of a bill into Photoshop. | We scan it, then we open it in photoshop - how is this hard to understand? Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryCallahan You're purposely avoiding my question while making juvenile flame attempts. | No, actually your question has been answered multiple times, your refusal to accept it is no one's problem but your own. Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryCallahan So let me put this in language my six yr old can understand: How do you scan in a 2002 or later US bill into your computer or memory stick? Is that so hard to comprehend. A very simple question. | You put it in the scanner tray and hit "scan" - is that so hard to comprehend. Consider this: nobody but you is having a problem getting the image into PS - ergo, the problem probably isn't PS, it's probably you.
2008 $5: [img=http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4581/2008harry.th.jpg]
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Rep Power: 1 | | I'm not bashing anyone's question...if you think that Photoshop is causing your problem then get an older version of Photoshop to test your theory...PS6 or PS7 both work! I know this for a FACT!! Photoshop CS3 or CS4 do not work without some sort of work-around... | 
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