How to make counterfeit money and blank checks(complete freebase method) - Page 3

Rage · #61 (**permalink**) 03-03-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TiPZ

^^ so your saying use 5 dollar bills to make 20's? Can i avoid doing that? i just want to use 1 dollar bills...does your method work with 1's if you do it good and carefully?

and do you have a specific program to print onto the money? photoshop wont let me open pic files of U.S currency...? any programs you use? and how do you print the fake 20 exactly on top of the bill you just took the ink off?

Use Adobe Photoshop Elements i believe. Its the sister program to Adobe Photoshop. It will allow you to import the bill and then transfer it to regular Photoshop. Try googling it, i believe i found it in a podcast or youtube somewhere.

shetlan · #62 (**permalink**) 03-03-2009, 05:45 AM

I suggest using $5's because they have far less ink and are easier to clean. Singles are practically impossible to clean to a sufficeient level for re-printing (I've done it once or twice, but the time and frequency of mishaps isn't worth the money).

Given Lucky's suggestion, I tried using a toothbrush - it works far better than the acid resistent brushes I suggested.

You can use Photoshop Elements to print bills, but it might take some jury rigging.

Wicked-Panda · #63 (**permalink**) 03-03-2009, 08:55 AM

Btw as I see it there's hardly any risk in making fake money...
I mean how could anyone prove that you crafted them and that you didn't just get it as change money somewhere?

Btw I live in Denmark, anyone knows if it's possible to do on Dkk too?

shetlan · #64 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:16 AM

If you need to clean the bills and re-print them, only your prints are on the bill. If the clerk hands the cash over to the security personell and the police check it for prints, they'll find yours, the clerk's, and the security guy's. Obviously nobody touched the money before you did - hence you didn't get it as change.

It's good to not have your prints on the cash - wear gloves while you make it and wear band-aid sticky parts on your fingertips when you spend it.

shetlan · #65 (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 12:32 AM

ACE hardware - in the drain clearner section.
Looks like this

$4.50 for a 1pound jar.

Just an update - I'm testing the method on the new $5 today (you know, the horifically ugly ones). If it works, I'll be able to get pristeen $5 to work with - since the new $5 is just starting to be printed.

shetlan · #66 (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 07:36 AM

Update:

The redesigned $5's aren't a problem at all - they're actually easier to clean than the older $5's. The only issue stems from them having a giant "5" watermark instead of a face. This of course doesn't matter as long as the clerk doesn't check the watermark.

By the way, you should print the bills with faces from the same generation.
i.e. 2006 re-designed $5's should be re-printed with 2006 re-designed $10's or 20's. I suggest this because the heads, denominations, and writting will all be in similar locations on the re-designed bills.

Overall, the new $5's produce a better quality final product than their predecessors . . . off to the bank to get more.

shetlan · #67 (**permalink**) 03-06-2009, 07:10 PM

Take a bill and put it into your copier - copy it. Now use tape to fix your blank bill over the copy of your real bill. Put the pair back into your printer and copy it again - this time the image is printed onto the blank bill. Do it again for the back.

Incidentally, I have pictures of teh final product - how do I upload them to the forum?

shetlan · #68 (**permalink**) 03-08-2009, 06:37 AM

Lye isn't dangerous if it's by itself. Read the Wikipedia page to get a grip on what it can and can't come in contact with.

Just a note, when you mix the lye with the water, it will start to steam - by itself. Don't worry about that, it just means it's working.

TiPZ · #69 (**permalink**) 03-08-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shetlan

Lye isn't dangerous if it's by itself. Read the Wikipedia page to get a grip on what it can and can't come in contact with.

Just a note, when you mix the lye with the water, it will start to steam - by itself. Don't worry about that, it just means it's working.

Ok I understand

lesclaypool555 · #70 (**permalink**) 03-08-2009, 07:38 PM

I'm new to the site and this subject caught my attention. While reading through, I found about 3 methods of cleaning. Which one is best to use?

shetlan · #71 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 02:13 AM

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6577/img0389wyt.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8519/img0390u.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7199/img0391e.jpg

Here are the URL's of the bill pics - I can't make them appear unless they're huge.

lesclaypool555 · #72 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shetlan

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6577/img0389wyt.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8519/img0390u.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7199/img0391e.jpg

Here are the URL's of the bill pics - I can't make them appear unless they're huge.

Is that using the lye method?

shetlan · #73 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 06:35 AM

Yes. To my knowledge, none of the other methods actually work - I've not tested the oven cleaner yet.

The Acetone and Bleach method is useless.
The Cement cleaner method doesn't work any better.

TiPZ · #74 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 07:31 AM

you talk but your scared to go back up north

shetlan · #75 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 04:54 AM

Supplies:
3 Tupperware containers roughly the size of a shoebox.
Lye
Water
Toothbrush
Paper Towels

1: Fill container #1 with warm water. Mix the lye in and put the bill in as soon as the lye dissolves - takes maybe ten seconds.

2: Wear gloves when inserting the bill and push it all the way to the bottom of the container. No floating. Let it sit for one hour.

3: Fill container #2 and #3 with warm water.

4: Put on another pair of gloves. Transfer the bill to container #2 and GENTLY wipe off the face of the bill with the toothbrush.

5: Move the bill to container #3 and GENTLY wipe the back with the toothbrush.

6: Remove the bill from the water and place it between 2 folded paper towels. Place this grouping into a thick book to flatten it out.

When dry, you can print the new bill

Printing:

Obtain a bill of the design and denomination you want to copy. Place it in a color photocopier. Push "Copy".
When the copy comes out, place the cleaned bill on top of the bill's image - secure it to the image with rings of tape.
Put the page (with attatched bill) back in the paper tray, and push "Copy" again - this time the bill's image should print directly onto the cleaned bill.

Repeat process for bill's reverse.

I don't bother using a program for something that doesn't need one.

group81 · #76 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 03:00 PM

Easv off oven cleaner is by far the best way to wash $ placing bills in pyrex baking dish spray a coat of E.Off in dish then put bills in then sray bills w/a heavy coat of E.Off let them soak 1-2 hrs swirl and shake dish 3-4 times /then do same on other side..use gloves to handle $ let dry in lg book phone book ect..(.DONT Brush them & use new crisp bills) this is played out ..i used to do this 10yrs ago and made Hella $$$ its Not New NEWS PAPER & MONEY WILL PASS THE PEN TEST.....HINT LOOK FOR 40LB RECYCLED NEWS PRINT art supply stores ect... it pass pen test & can have the same feel as real $ 1 dollar bills have more ink than any bill has SoUno.. The mylar strips main use is to count the $ leavin the usa ..they use readers that can count the $ in your pockets all tsa airport detectors have mylar scaqnners in them ( its illegal to take over 5K outa the usa and not disclose it and its purpose also..the NSA can read the date on a dime on the ground from a satillite ...So Uno ....

Rage · #77 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by group81

Easv off oven cleaner is by far the best way to wash $ placing bills in pyrex baking dish spray a coat of E.Off in dish then put bills in then sray bills w/a heavy coat of E.Off let them soak 1-2 hrs swirl and shake dish 3-4 times /then do same on other side..use gloves to handle $ let dry in lg book phone book ect..(.DONT Brush them & use new crisp bills) this is played out ..i used to do this 10yrs ago and made Hella $$$ its Not New NEWS PAPER & MONEY WILL PASS THE PEN TEST.....HINT LOOK FOR 40LB RECYCLED NEWS PRINT art supply stores ect... it pass pen test & can have the same feel as real $ 1 dollar bills have more ink than any bill has SoUno.. The mylar strips main use is to count the $ leavin the usa ..they use readers that can count the $ in your pockets all tsa airport detectors have mylar scaqnners in them ( its illegal to take over 5K outa the usa and not disclose it and its purpose also..the NSA can read the date on a dime on the ground from a satillite ...So Uno ....

Ouch... Wanna clean that up a bit homie?

shetlan · #78 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 07:46 PM

Uh, okay?
Quite a bit of that post was really random stuff and alot of it simply isn't true.

Newsprint won't pass a pen test - but that's not important since nobody uses those pens. It's more important to have bills that "feel" and look right. This being the focus, newspaper is a terrible suggestion.

Newsprint is far thinner than bill stock and doesn't maintain the ink's appearance well enough to pass for a genuine bill. Unless you can get ahold of a printer designed to accomodate newsprint, it's also alot of trouble to print the bills at all.

If you want to print bills from scratch (without cleaning) you just need to find 25% cotton rag paper - which you can buy in the "fine papers" area of your local Staples. The package looks like this:

With proper aging, this type of paper can be made to feel much like real money.

lesclaypool555 · #79 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 10:33 PM

Thanks a lot for the help, shetlan.

shetlan · #80 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 12:07 AM

Happy to help.

I'm working on the method to make bills from the 25% cotton paper (requiring no blanking). I'll post some pictures when I think I've got a good product going - it's significantly cheaper than cleaning existing $5's.

TiPZ · #81 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 03:59 AM

thanks for the props

shetlan · #82 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:05 AM

I have a personal strategy that I'm not going to share, but essentially I use the fake money to "buy" real money - in a 1:1 trade.

Andrew · #83 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:35 AM

A good trade to rid yourself of the washed bills (if youre already in the bussiness) could be to buy drugs with the washed bills, then turn around and sell the drugs for the same, or more than you paid. Essentially this could be done with any product, but drug dealers arent really a business that would report counterfeit bills.

shetlan · #84 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 07:37 AM

Ah, you inadvertantly discovered one of the most important parts of printing counterfeights from blank paper.

Sending the money through the washer is important because it adds a little softness to the paper. If you're using 25% cotton rag, dipping it in a bowl of water with a bit of Downy mixed in (then let it dry) makes a bill that feels identical to a real bill. Of course, you should do that before you print the bill.

By the way, if you're going to work from 25% cotton paper, you should use newer designs - the "pimped out" bill series.

For the printing issue:
You print the image on normal paper, you tape the blank bill over the image, then you run it through the printer again - this time the image prints directly onto the blank bill.

If you're going to make a large number, you should have a dedicated printer. Said printer shoudln't be connected to a computer but should simply be a color copier with some adjustable settings (the ability to darken images specifically).

MurderSkillz · #85 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 10:21 PM

ok so I've noticed a problem or so... Since you are printing the new bills and not the older 20's you have the color shifting ink problem now.. And also. What bill series of 5's are you exactly using? I have a 2003A sitting right in front of me. But I must admit those 20's look pretty damn good.. its only the damn color shifting ink problem =/ And my Lincoln has his face as the ghost.. not a "5" like yours.

Also if your printed copy gets wet the ink wont come off or smear or anything?

EDIT: I can't find that rooto drain opener anywhere.. =(

shetlan · #86 (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 11:54 PM

I think you're confused Mr. Skillz, the bill doesn't need to stand up to the scrutiny of the secret service - just the checker at Wal-mart.

1: If the bill gets wet, yes the ink will run - that's true of EVERY method. To overcome this: don't let the bill get wet.

2: As for color shifting ink:
As we said before, we're just trying to get past a clerk at a checkout stand, the clerk isn't going to check the bill for color shifting ink, watermarks, etc unless it's a $50 or a $100 - they just don't have the time.

Please read the previous page of the thread, everything you said has already been discussed.

P.S. You can get the needed Lye at ACE hardware stores.

MurderSkillz · #87 (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 12:00 AM

I just saw a casheir at walmart check a 20 for the ghost yesterday. They don't rely on pens anymore.. or how real they look.. but there are a lot of fake 20's floating around here.. But how the pens work are.. the pens are iodine. When the iodine mixes with starch.. which is found in printing paper.. it will give that dark brown color. Thats why rag paper passes.. or anything that has no starch in it.. Like a coffee filter.. But if you do use printer paper.. the feel isn't there. But a light coat of hairspray passes the paper for "real" with the pen test.

rezn8 · #88 (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 12:38 AM

hey guys...long time reader first time poster....lt me start off by saying shetlan you are one of the most knowledgable guys on this forum...thanks for all youve contributed.... so is muderskillz right about the 25% rag paper passing the pen test?...... maybe we should discuss what the best way of getting rid of the bills is....shetlan i bellieve i read your post where you said you didnt want to disvlose how you trade them out...i respect that (trade secrets and all...lol) but maybe you could help throw some ideas out there..... ill go first, in the moderate experience ive had getting rid of them, ive always gone to mexico ( i live close) and used them and just bought small stuff to get change once its spent i got the hell back to the us....anyone have any pros or cons i might not be thinking of?....anyone else wannna throw some ideas out there?......(washing annd printing is only 2/3rds of the process)

rezn8 · #89 (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 01:40 AM

what program are you using to print it?.....i use a cannon photo quality printer and i simply copy the bill using the scanner and it prints the exact same size.....i then reverse the paper put it back in and copy the back of the bill.....all i had to do was adjust the color settings on the copy menu and the colors lucky enough came out fine...if you are using a program rather than copying it.....youll need to look for the resize options in the toolsd...you should be able to adjust the rezise percentage untill you find the right size...

also....if your only problem is printing....would you care to throw some ideas out there concering actually getting rid of them...
so far the main things are...
1>buying small items and getting change
2>buying items and returning them to a different location
3>drugs and selling them

rezn8 · #90 (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 01:54 AM

if i were you id just scan it...wait till mom is asleep or somethin....unless your getting the pics from a reliable person ive found online images to be pretty unreliable...but if you must...open the image in microsoft paint (its included with your operating system) and use the resize/scew function...