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Old 03-13-2009, 01:50 AM
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Bulgarian lev - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - at the lowest part of the page you can find pictures of all bills of my currency.Pls help with holos
you do know this thread is 98% for usa currency right?.....lol ill do what i can to help ya though
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:01 AM
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$39.95 ....walmart special....search "canon pixma mp190".....your welcome
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:32 AM
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Rezn8, the ten on top is real teh ten on bottom is made from a photocopy of the one on top using the 25% cotton rag paper - after treating it to soften it up.

I'll post the complete instructions in a couple of days, I have company over till monday.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:33 AM
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I just went and bought some.. They sell it on ebay as well.

Type in rooto in the search bar. Man these new 5's seem to have a lot of ink
I live in the Bahamas though.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:52 AM
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If it were me.. I'd test to see how well it goes through the washer.. that should soften it up if it withstands like real currency paper. I'm thinking of a way to seal the ink so there is no worries if it goes through the washer with your ink.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:10 AM
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shetlan, how do you sofen it up and make it feel realer?

props to you shetlan...if i start making big bucks from this, I'll send you a big profit lol
Don't be silly TiPZ, I don't expect any more than 10% (donations to be sent via paypal) (Insert winky guy).

To soften the paper, you need a bucket (a decently large one) water and a cap full of downy. Just soak the papers in the downy water for about an hour, dry them on a clothesline (preferably over your bathtub), and print them after they're dry.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:16 AM
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see!...i told yu guys shetlan is a genius ...lol im working on my prints right now....shetlan have we confirmed the 25% will pass the pen test?....ill be taking pics of the whole process and making a tutorial ....
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:35 AM
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LOL.

wait hold up, so.....soften the paper FIRST, then use it to print?

and also, wouldn't the water dissolve or ruin the paper? And when i put the paper in...how many copies of paper? more then 1? or just 1?, and should I just let it float on top or sink it to the bottom?
yep...soften it first, then print...as long as your carefull, it shouldnt ruin the paper.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:23 AM
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I don't have pics right now - like I said, I have company till monday.

My method (not varified to be perfect yet):

Cut the paper into 3 equal strips (each strip should be 8.5" x 3.7")
16-20 Quart container
8 Quarts of Water
1 Cap of Downy

Cut the sheets into 3 peices per sheet and place the sheets into the water/downy solution. Let them sit there for 30minutes - then flip all the bills so the floaters get they're turn under water - wait another 30minutes.

You now have 2 options. You can dry the papers clothesline style over a bathtub and let them drip dry - or you can stick the bills between paper towels and let the towels absorb the moisture (I'm guessing that the clothesline version will be better, but I am yet to try it).

\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/AFTER PRINTING\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

After the bills have been printed, put them in a clothes dryer with some dryer balls (seen below). This will take away they're crispness and give them a more "used" feel (remember: a used bill is a trustworthy bill).



Dryer balls are basically solidified downy in the form of a mace-like ball. The spikes on the ball are important because they give the paper a "deep-tissue-massage" making the fabric softer.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:36 AM
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no worries, im trying to load the drivers for my scanner right now....shetlan, are you using the canon pixma like me?
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:41 AM
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Pixma MP 210 Special Edition

The thing prints like a champ after you figure out the Gordion's Knot of getting the ink cartridges installed.
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30's the new 20 i'm so hot still

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Old 03-13-2009, 07:41 AM
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so your saying when you put the paper in the bucket...it will float?, then after 30 min flip it to the next side?
Some of the papers will float (you should be doing about 50 papers at a time) since they won't all absorb the water at once. After the first 30minutes, there should only be a few papers left floating - then we flip and/or swirl the papers around to make them all sink - then another 30minutes.
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:46 AM
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you do know this thread is 98% for usa currency right?.....lol ill do what i can to help ya though
Maybe i'll have to move to the states soon haha.But seriously , if anyone can help - please help.I couldn't find info about holos anywhere , so any help will be appreciated.
I found out that after heating cds , especially cheap or old ones , you can strip them.So can i somehow do something like hologram with this foil.Or shred it to pieces and mix it with glue or smth - will this work? Of course , im asking just for educational purposes.

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Old 03-13-2009, 05:44 PM
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what if I only put a few papers in at a time, say only 3 or 4 pieces, would that still work?

Yes, but with so few they won't have enough weight to sink them. If you're only doing a few, hold them down for a few minutes so they absorb enough water to make them sink - also I think the first 30minutes is enough if you're only doing 4 bills worth.
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:56 PM
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I thought there was a difference between 25% cotton paper & rag paper? Isn't it rag paper that you need? I read that the fine recycled paper that was bought has some kind of finish on it? Did that paper work well?
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Some help with the holograms?
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I was taking a look at this paper.. They are all watermarked... I found some at the store that wasn't watermarked but it was 32 LB too think for making a bank note.. =/ felt kinda weird too.. idk
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:46 AM
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I was taking a look at this paper.. They are all watermarked... I found some at the store that wasn't watermarked but it was 32 LB too think for making a bank note.. =/ felt kinda weird too.. idk
The watermark is just a company logo on one part of the page, it doesn't get in the way of anything. The mark is only visible if you hold it to light - and if someone holds it to light they'll see that the appropriate watermarks are missing. Either way, it doesn't really affect the final product.
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okay so lye is almost impossible to get where SWIM is from because of meth heads.

but SWIM found that a mixture of equal parts peroxide, denatured alcohol, paint-thinner, and mineral spirits will make ink run off bills much better than over cleaner or acetone

SWIM=someone who isnt me
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The watermark is just a company logo on one part of the page, it doesn't get in the way of anything. The mark is only visible if you hold it to light - and if someone holds it to light they'll see that the appropriate watermarks are missing. Either way, it doesn't really affect the final product.
Ok. I'll pick them up tomorrow. As mentioned earlier in this thread.. the ink comes off the ones but its WAY too difficult on the back.. front comes off clean and easy.. but all the green on the back.. it's just impossible.. stick with 5's guys.
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okay so lye is almost impossible to get where SWIM is from because of meth heads.

but SWIM found that a mixture of equal parts peroxide, denatured alcohol, paint-thinner, and mineral spirits will make ink run off bills much better than over cleaner or acetone

SWIM=someone who isnt me
Thanks, but isn't mineral spirits and paint thinner almost the same, oh and is it hydrogen peroxide?

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They can be used for the same thing, but I don't think they are the same. Yes, I believe hydrogen peroxide. I don't know if it works though. I do know the lye method works perfectly fine
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ok so my drivers wont load cause i just realized they are foor xp not vista im online now trying to get the vista drivers.........BUT i got the liquid version of the lye solution yesterday, and im glad to announce the liquid works just as good as the powder. i know alot of people including myself cant get the powder form of it (THANKS METH HEAD TWEAKERS!!) SO anyway i got the liquid version and it works perfect. and i actually had no problem with the $1 bill even though there is more ink on the back. ....maybe the liquid is stronger somehow?....i dunno, but im pretty excited...lol....tipz, i promise i will get the images loaded ASAP
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Old 03-14-2009, 09:09 PM
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ya ill get em up today i promise.....but man, after doing the lye method and staring at this completely blank bill in front of me. im stickin with lye from now on......I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU ALL TRY THE LYE METHOD. im using one of the older $5 bills now so when its done ill post up the final product once i load the drivers for my scanner to get the pics for tipz that is
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so the lye really does work well? you have the liquid kind also? and just srub it with a toothbrush?
yep....what i did was
1. 2 quarts of water
2.added about half a cup of liquid lye
3.soaked bill for 45 min- 1 hour
4.soaked bill in hot water
5.immidiatly WIPED the bill with a soft tooth brush (you barely have to touch it and the ink literally starts wiping off, i think scrub is a little harsh of a word)
6. dry bill out
7. test print a bill, and tape the blanked out bill over the test print and put it through the printer
8.reverse bill and print back.
9. let it dry
10. instant money!
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Yes lightly "brush" I wouldn't say scrub. haha. As for the scanner. My scanner also did the same thing. Except only with the newer bills. It scanned my 1996 $20 perfectly fine. And I noticed it stops right at the eyes on the faces. Maybe that's why when you throw in a new 20 dollar bill in the microwave it burst into flames. Right at the eyes. How does the 25% 20 LB cotton paper feel after the downy soak? does it feel real?
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I'm going to post some pictures of a test run on printer paper. Rips photo shopped, color enhanced, photo shopped black marker off of the bill, and a couple other things. Tell me what you think.

This bank note will never be used and is being destroyed as we speak. Just wanted to see how well I could get it.

Serial numbers where blurred.

Front: ImageShack - Image Hosting :: fronthtv.jpg
Back: ImageShack - Image Hosting :: backfqs.jpg
No Watermark: ImageShack - Image Hosting :: nowatermark.jpg

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Old 03-15-2009, 02:22 AM
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yea mr. skillz im with ya on that one!, reguardless of how good it comes out im not taking any chances, 10 min after each bill is finished i destroy it. period. cant be too carefull these days, besides like i said before im only doing this now to prove to myself that it can actually be done. nothing more.
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me three! would never use these for any purpose at all, i will destroy all of them
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