How to make counterfeit money and blank checks(complete freebase method)

[MurderSkillz]

Ya, I mean I ain't got money (laid off). But I have too much to lose.. =/ My girlfriend is 4 1/2 months pregnant and her mom just passed away. So her and my unborn child need me.

I always do things to see if I have it in me to do it.

[group81]

i see recycled news print 40lb wt.available in standard sizes (reg 8.5x11) is somthing you know little about! It is nthe easiest way and feels just the same as a real bill you cant tell with your eyes shut or open...Yes it dose pass the pen test so dose your daily news paper. its very printer friendly on any printer ! for quality get away from hp or cannon junk in any price range!! Epson makes the best printers on earth HAND DOWN I USE BA CX4880 PSC it will print color shifting ink and give you a perfect bill everytime its a bit of $ 1900.00 but its made me 20x that $ i get few if any non passables oh and theY dont sell Epsons at wally world...fuck the lye way! OVEN CLEANER IS FAR SUPEIOR ...So Uno

[MurderSkillz]

Some reason when I actually print on the bill its a weird green...? Looks like I might have to make some color adjustments for different paper. By the way, isn't 40LB a bit thick...? The average American bill is .0043 inches.

[shetlan]

Yes Skillz, 40lb is almost twice the thickness of a real bill, there's absolutely no way it would pass.

I tried the oven cleaner method as well, it works . . . kinda'. As described previously in the thread, the method takes several times the time. It also eats the life out of the bill - of the 5 bills used in the test only 2 survived the cleaning process.

Whether newspaper passes the pen tests or not isn't particularly important - since nobody uses the pens.

[kteddycharms]

So the liquid lye works. Thank you guys! Problem now is I need a good copy of some bills. Do anyone know of any good copy's of the 20's online? I don't have a scanner so I can't scan.

[1000101]

Originally Posted by shetlan

I have a personal strategy that I'm not going to share, but essentially I use the fake money to "buy" real money - in a 1:1 trade.

Is it going to a currency shop/exchange bureau and buy a different currency (maybe £), then go to another exchange bureau and change it back into $....

Also does this work on GBP? (UK currency?) I'm guessing no....?

[MurderSkillz]

Why don't you tell us since I don't think we have any UK notes. lol wouldn't hurt to try. Also with the oven cleaner. I believe that the oven cleaner is a lot more expensive than the lye. Which means loss in profit. You get more runs with lye and it's cheaper... Also saves precious time. "time is money" I was feeling 20 lb 25% cotton and 20 lb seemed a bit thin, could be me though. Has anyone tried 100% cotton paper? I saw it at the store but can't remember what LB it was. That might add to the feel of real bank notes. When you slide currency between your fingers notice it has that "fuzzy grab"? and 25% cotton for me kinda slides? Although I haven't tested the 25%. Does the dunking provide the fuzzy grab as well? I might steal a sheet just to do a test. depending how thick it is though. But so far 25% is the closest the average person is going to get.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by 1000101

Is it going to a currency shop/exchange bureau and buy a different currency (maybe £), then go to another exchange bureau and change it back into $....

Also does this work on GBP? (UK currency?) I'm guessing no....?

No. A currency exchange is alot like a bank, they know counterfeights when they see them - no matter how good yours are.

My method takes me to Wal-mart, as well as office supply and grocery stores.

Has anyone tried 100% cotton paper?

I have, the paper I tried is made by the same company as the 25%. The paper isn't too heavy to use, it just doesn't feel right.


I did blind tests with 25% notes over the weekend with the people I had visitting.
Test #1: I gave them 3 $10 bills (2real 1fake) and asked them if they had any thoughts.
Result: Nobody identified that there was a counterfeight amount them.
Score: 0-5 100% Successful

Test #2: I informed them that one of the bills was fake. I asked them to decide which it was by feel alone (each was asked individually).
Result: My sister in law identified the counterfeight - she's a bank teller.
Score: 1-4 80% Successful

Overall, I was happy with the results from the 25% tests. Only a bank teller could tell the difference by feel, but it required that she be made aware that a fake was present.

EDIT:
My sister in law also gave me an excellent set of suggestions for passing multiple fakes at a time.

1: Keep the bills in a bank envelope - one that has the bank's name on it. Afterall, who would expect counterfeight money coming from a bank? Banks are "reliable" and trustworthy so the teller won't think twice about taking money that comes from a bank envelope.

2: Wait till Christmas to use them. Cashiers dont' check anything for anything at Christmas.

3 (relates to 2)Put bills in several envelopes and mark each with a name (wife-brother-mom and dad-etc); it's also a good idea to write dates on the backs of the envelopes (dates when money was supposedly added to them). When it's time to pay, remove the envelopes from your pocket, and look for the "right one". This provides the illusion that these are your "gift-budget" for family members and you've been adding money to them on a regular basis. Much like the bank envelope idea, this adds "reliability" - ie. you're obviously a family man, trustworthy, and definitely not a counterfeighter.

[1000101]

Originally Posted by shetlan

No. A currency exchange is alot like a bank, they know counterfeights when they see them - no matter how good yours are.

My method takes me to Wal-mart, as well as office supply and grocery stores.

Ahhh, all the bureau de change places I've been (about 4) haven't checked....

[MurderSkillz]

Originally Posted by 1000101

Ahhh, all the bureau de change places I've been (about 4) haven't checked....

That you "know" of. I am sure they check those bills. The UK isn't that dumb now are they? Even tho it's not their real currency, they still deal with US notes all the time. What you can do is make fake notes (US) Buy some stuff from personal people, (your average Joe) Give them the US currency and let them go through the hassle of the exchange. Only thing that I can think of really.

@ shetlan, That was some really nice info you provided! you saved us time and money.. =)

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by 1000101

Ahhh, all the bureau de change places I've been (about 4) haven't checked....

Ever wonder what's behind those little walls by the teller's windows? It's an array of scanners, testers, counters, and other devices to check for counterfeights - all of which fit on a 12"x18" space.

You may not know that they're checking, but they're checking.

Originally Posted by Murderskillz

What you can do is make fake notes (US) Buy some stuff from personal people, (your average Joe) Give them the US currency and let them go through the hassle of the exchange. Only thing that I can think of really.

Actually, he could use them at many department stores as well. Many department stores now have a payment option that allows you to pay in foreign currency (ie buttons that read: "cash"-"check"-"credit"-"foreign"). They push the button and the system converts the exchange rate.

[bennerman]

Didn't you say you were going to post a guide for a basic donation scam at the end of the post?

[shetlan]

I dont' recall anyone saying anything like that.

[bennerman]

Originally Posted by 123Shadow123

Process 1: Getting The Check
1)Get a FULL filled check (signature, and ammount givin)
*Get a job or setup donations or whatever. I will explain a simple donation scam at the bottom *

See? Told ya :P

[MurderSkillz]

123Shadow123 said that. It's clearly quoted in your post. lol. Shadow has been banned for some time now. I hear ever since he got banned he acts like a sissy nanny now. lol

[bennerman]

yes, my point is, he said he would, and it isn't there

[MurderSkillz]

Because like I said... He got banned... Apparently didn't he said it before he was banned? Hm I think so.

[shetlan]

I used 2 table spoons in a shoebox sized container.

[GeNine]

Would this method work with UK £5 notes. Curious as to if it would work. Only problem with UK notes is the holagram and the foil down the middle. A little harder, but I'd be looking to invest some time and money into doing UK notes.

Anyone got any tutorials on UK money?

[kteddycharms]

WILL ANY 25% COTTON PAPER WORK? I can't fine that specific type of paper.

[MurderSkillz]

As long as its 25% cotton paper at 20 LBS.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by TiPZ

shetlan, i was wondering if you wonder about getting caught? what do you do from preventing anyone finding out your making this? i was thinking of ways not to get finger prints on it?

Most of not getting caught is acting and making a quality product to begin with, but I think what you're talking about is what to do after you're caught and before the police arrive.

Again, most of this is still acting. Acting surprised for one thing. On this subject, I once again consulted my sister in law - given her greater experience as a teller. All of her suggestions involve getting the counterfeight bill back and paying with real money.

To get the bill back
1: Ask to see the bill.
2: Ask the teller to show you where there is expected to be a watermark-then casually take the bill from her.
3: In general, ask anything that involves having the bill in close proximity-then taking the bill.

You've got the bill back now you pay with real money. The only evidence of your counterfeightting is out of their hands. From here you simply leave.

Convincers (ways to convince them that you are not personally the counterfeightter):
1:Rip the bill up.
After you've been shown that the bill is fake, tear it up, and do so with a look of disappointment.
2:You don't care.
When they've shown you that the bill is fake, make is apparent that you don't care what happens to it. "Oh. . . well throw it out or whatever you do with 'em".

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by GeNine

Would this method work with UK £5 notes. Curious as to if it would work. Only problem with UK notes is the holagram and the foil down the middle. A little harder, but I'd be looking to invest some time and money into doing UK notes.

Anyone got any tutorials on UK money?

GeNine,

It would be greatly appreciated if you would actually read parts of a thread before you start posting in it. That question was asked and answered at the top of this page.

The answer:
This thread is almost entirely referring to US currency.
Very few of the people writing in this thread are in the UK and thus have very little interest in making counterfeight pounds.
If you want to look into counterfeightting pounds, then look into it. It's been done before.

[kteddycharms]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

As long as its 25% cotton paper at 20 LBS.

and it would pass the pen test rite

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by TiPZ

I see what your saying....but I should of been more specific, lets say I make a 10 dollar bill out of the 25% paper...eventually give it to my friend..so now I dont have this bill anymore and its out in the real world...and what if he spends it or whatever, and it gets in the wrong hands. Will they check finger prints? or what? Thats the only way they could catch anyone I think?

Don't give it to your friends. Your friends can identify you as Jimmy Tipper - or whatever your name may be. This is why you spend the bills at stores.

After the store gets a $10 it may as well be lost in the void. It's highly likely that the bill will be handed out as change within the next 20minutes. Now that no less than three people have handled the bill (yourself, the clerk, and the customer that received the bill from the clerk) fingerprints are practically useless (smudging, rubbing against other bills, oil on their hands, etc). After the bill has been passed, it's done - as long as it doesn't make it to the cash room at the store (and subsequently to the bank) you're clear.

kteddycharms,
The paper won't pass the pen test - but nobody at the places you'll be using them uses the pens (actually nobody really uses the pens). The pen test is irrelevant unless you're at a restaurant where you pay the waitress - some waitresses will still use the pens.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by TiPZ

shetlan, i was wondering if you had any other ideas of making the 25% paper more "money like" feeling it wise.

Did you do the Downy soak I described before? That's the first step, which must be done even before the bill is printed.

After printing and cutting to size, the bills should be sent through a dryer (lowest heat available) along with some dryer balls.

Note: the dryer is essentially being used as a large ball mill to soften the bills up. An alternative is to use a bucket and some clay poker chips. Lay the bucket on its side, put in the bills and poker chips (2:1 ratio), close it up and start spinning it. As the bucket spins the poker chips are smacking against the bills and softening them - keep doing it till they feel like genuine bills.

Now, if you're referring to the bills feeling "powdery" (not slick enough), that's pretty easy to fix. You need to put on a VERY LIGHT coat of Krylon 1311 Matte Finish Semi-gloss. Looks like this:

This will make it smooth and slick enough to feel real but won't make it shine or feel stiff.

For that matter Krylon 1311 Matte is a good coating for almost any forged document that you want to make look fancier.

[kteddycharms]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

I doubt anyone will do that. Why don't you try doing it on your own instead of being spoon fed?

I don't have a scanner. I printed some $10 bill earlier, but they looked kind of blurry.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by TiPZ

props shetlan...yes i dryed the downy, but I was wondering if you had any other ideas....and where could I get that kryon stuff?

and also putting the bills in the dryer, do you just put the bills in the dyer with NO clothes? and I dont have those balls your talking about, so can I just put the bills? will they catch on fire lol?

You can get the Krylon at some Wal-mart locations, most ACE locations, and a few other craft stores.

Just putting the bills in is pointless if there's nothing in there with them. If you put the bills in alone, they will likely get stuck on the lint catching vent and then the will likely catch fire. Using dryer balls and/or clay poker chips will prevent them from being lifted by the lint vent.

Clothes wouldn't really serve the purpose unless they where very heavy cloth and dry to begin with. You could try balling up a few pairs of jeans and tossing them in with 50 or so bills, but I'm not sure how well that would turn out.

If you have the ingenuity, I suggest you make a ball mill from a 5gallon bucket to substitute for your dryer. You can probably find instructions online about that. This is actually the preferrable method because it doesn't generate the heat that the dryer does.

[MurderSkillz]

Ya, wal-mart carries all kinds of Krylon stuff. By the way I saw those dryer ball things at wal-mart too. Just ask someone who works there.

[UlV oR tH oD oX]

Soo... and I'm just trying to get this straight here. The cotton paper is a completely different method than washing the bills with Lye? And if so, if anyone could throw me a link to somewhere I can buy the correct paper I'd really appreciate i. I googled it, but I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for.