How to make counterfeit money and blank checks(complete freebase method)

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by UlV oR tH oD oX

Soo... and I'm just trying to get this straight here. The cotton paper is a completely different method than washing the bills with Lye? And if so, if anyone could throw me a link to somewhere I can buy the correct paper I'd really appreciate i. I googled it, but I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for.

As insane of an idea as this is I'll suggest that you READ THE THREAD.
The last two pages alone will provide the information you've asked for - as well as give you a picture of the paper you need.

[gzagenius]

sheltan , are your bills passable or are they recognized easily, and what printer did you use?I'm asking for educational purposes only and in no way i am considering to break the law.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by gzagenius

sheltan , are your bills passable or are they recognized easily, and what printer did you use?I'm asking for educational purposes only and in no way i am considering to break the law.

I shall repeat myself:

As insane of an idea as this is I'll suggest that you READ THE THREAD.
The last two pages alone will provide the information you've asked for - as well as give you a picture of the paper you need.

[gzagenius]

Ok , i have read the whole thread but i didn't understand , how they look like in real , because the pictures are little blurry.So the question is - are they passable or not.Thank you.
Edit: I'm sorry , i've missed 1 of your posts.I have my answer , thank you though.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by gzagenius

Ok , i have read the whole thread but i didn't understand , how they look like in real , because the pictures are little blurry.So the question is - are they passable or not.Thank you.
Edit: I'm sorry , i've missed 1 of your posts.I have my answer , thank you though.

Really? There should have been alot of posts talking about whether or not the bills where passable - almost an entire page.
Also - it's been 40minutes. You read 7 pages in 40minutes? I think not.

[loveysunflower]

I have a question, is there a way to create the face watermark in photoshop? Also is there a way to recreate the strip image, so when printed it appears to be there?

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by loveysunflower

I have a question, is there a way to create the face watermark in photoshop? Also is there a way to recreate the strip image, so when printed it appears to be there?

Certainely not in photoshop.
Do you know what a watermark is? Watermarks are created from altering the paper. Either by changing its consistency or thickness in the area where the mark is to appear. You'll have a better shot making one with a hammer than you would trying to use photoshop.

In a real bill the strip is actually between the sheets that compose the face and back. I don't know of a way to make them without changing the counterfeiting processes we've outlined.

[loveysunflower]

Thanks for the response. Yes, I am aware of what a watermark is. I have included watermarks in other projects I have worked on, such as transcripts. I was trying to figure out a way to create a sample that included the watermark.Also I am unable to locate the recycle business fine paper. Would other southworth paper work just as well

[gzagenius]

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/811/image003mjr.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6206/image000p.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5277/image002mve.jpg

I hope that gives you some ideas.Note that these pictures aren't made by me , they were downloaded from the internet.I have never counterfeited , nor i would counterfeit in future.This post is purely educational and hypothetical.I advise you not to commit any crimes , including counterfeiting , because its illegal and so on...And as for the note in the pictures - its real , not counterfeit.

[gzagenius]

And , for informational and research purposes about the book i am writing , could one make an ordinary A4 sheet of paper to feel like a banknote , because the main character in the book i am writing doesn't have access to 25% rag paper , simply because in the country he lives this paper is really rare to find , and he , no matter how hard tried , couldn't find it.Any help is appreciated.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by loveysunflower

Thanks for the response. Yes, I am aware of what a watermark is. I have included watermarks in other projects I have worked on, such as transcripts. I was trying to figure out a way to create a sample that included the watermark.Also I am unable to locate the recycle business fine paper. Would other southworth paper work just as well

The qualification for the paper is that it be 25% cotton, 25lb., and white. Not all Southworth papers will work.

[loveysunflower]

gzagenius,
Do u have a email i can reach? I want to ask you about the pics you posted.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by gzagenius

And , for informational and research purposes about the book i am writing , could one make an ordinary A4 sheet of paper to feel like a banknote , because the main character in the book i am writing doesn't have access to 25% rag paper , simply because in the country he lives this paper is really rare to find , and he , no matter how hard tried , couldn't find it.Any help is appreciated.

That is easily the worst cover story I have ever heard - and no you can't make regular paper feel like a banknote.

Your "character" can buy it on the internet.

[richierichtx]

If someone where to make , idk like $10,000 worth of very good quality counterfeit 10 dollar bills (I would say passible even with some scrutiny, it would have the shifting ink and such but it they very closely compare it to the real thing they would notice its not quite the same) How would you someone advice him to convert it to real cash.
So you know he hasn't made it yet, but he knows he could make it, but wants to have a plan/idea before just jumping in.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by richierichtx

If someone where to make , idk like $10,000 worth of very good quality counterfeit 10 dollar bills (I would say passible even with some scrutiny, it would have the shifting ink and such but it they very closely compare it to the real thing they would notice its not quite the same) How would you someone advice him to convert it to real cash.
So you know he hasn't made it yet, but he knows he could make it, but wants to have a plan/idea before just jumping in.

Richie,

Is the question: "How do you convert counterfeit money into real money?" There was alot of blah blah blah in there.

The amounts aren't particularly relevant. In most cases - you just spend it (you know - like it's money).

Buy things you want
Buy things you don't want and return them - getting real cash back
Buy something cheap and get change

PS: Could he stop referring to himself in the third person please.

[richierichtx]

Originally Posted by shetlan

Richie,

Is the question: "How do you convert counterfeit money into real money?" There was alot of blah blah blah in there.

The amounts aren't particularly relevant. In most cases - you just spend it (you know - like it's money).

Buy things you want
Buy things you don't want and return them - getting real cash back
Buy something cheap and get change

PS: Could he stop referring to himself in the third person please.

Yeah, The thing is, If I ended up making the money, I want to be able to get rid of it and not leave a trail behind at everywhere I buy from, because inevitably down the line, someone will realize its counterfeit. If I could find a cleaner way to get it out of my hands early on, then really there would be a much better chance of it not being traced back to me.

The things I want would in most cases be things that would cost $100-$200, so that would seem suspicious to pay in 10's, even 20's. Who would carry ~$500 around in 20's?, but make bills higher than that, and they will face much more scrutiny.
Also, buying something cheap and getting change would take a while with thousands of dollars, not only that, but I would end up with even smaller bills, I would much like to avoid thousands of dollars in 1's and 5's. lol

Yeah, I just thought it would be better to refer to myself that way, plus its not that annoying.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by richierichtx

Yeah, The thing is, If I ended up making the money, I want to be able to get rid of it and not leave a trail behind at everywhere I buy from, because inevitably down the line, someone will realize its counterfeit. If I could find a cleaner way to get it out of my hands early on, then really there would be a much better chance of it not being traced back to me.

You need to read back a ways in the thread. We've discussed this aspect already. The short version is, the money is incredibly unlikely to be traced back to you at any time.

Originally Posted by richierichtx

The things I want would in most cases be things that would cost $100-$200, so that would seem suspicious to pay in 10's, even 20's. Who would carry ~$500 around in 20's?, but make bills higher than that, and they will face much more scrutiny.

You've never worked retail have you?
People pay for items with small denominations all the time. When I worked retail, we had people pay for $200 and $300 in $20s all the time. It's not that wierd.

We've already discussed this as well.

Originally Posted by richierichtx

Also, buying something cheap and getting change would take a while with thousands of dollars, not only that, but I would end up with even smaller bills, I would much like to avoid thousands of dollars in 1's and 5's. lol

Ah, then I have a suggestion for you - via PM.

Yeah, I just thought it would be better to refer to myself that way, plus its not that annoying.[/quote]

[gzagenius]

shetlan , can you post some more pics of teh bleached dolla dolla bilz , maybe in closer plan.Are there any trails left from the original ink and is there a change in the feeling , because i started bleaching 1$ , just for a test i bleached a bit of it and when it dried , the feeling of the paper changed a bit or maybe its just me i don't know.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by gzagenius

shetlan , can you post some more pics of teh bleached dolla dolla bilz , maybe in closer plan.Are there any trails left from the original ink and is there a change in the feeling , because i started bleaching 1$ , just for a test i bleached a bit of it and when it dried , the feeling of the paper changed a bit or maybe its just me i don't know.

I don't know which part of this is too hard to understand - READ THE THREAD. This to has already been discussed at length.

I've ceased using the bleaching method, it's simply not cost effective enough to pursue.

[loveysunflower]

I simply cannot find the recycle fine paper, so i tried southworth business fine 25% cotton, 20lbs. I soaked in downy and used downy balls, but it just doesn't have the right feel. Can someone subject another paper? What about 100% cotton or linen

[Rage]

Originally Posted by loveysunflower

I have a question, is there a way to create the face watermark in photoshop? Also is there a way to recreate the strip image, so when printed it appears to be there?

You could actually create a watermark and the strip of micro print but they would always be visible. In doing so would be pointless because it would be easy to spot its fake. Normal bills only appear when you hold the bill up to light.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by loveysunflower

I simply cannot find the recycle fine paper, so i tried southworth business fine 25% cotton, 20lbs. I soaked in downy and used downy balls, but it just doesn't have the right feel. Can someone subject another paper? What about 100% cotton or linen

Linen - feels noting like a real bill.
100%Cotton - too stiff.

Your solution:
Let it dry and print your bills. The addition of ink changes the feel of the paper. After printing you will need to age the bills.

[Skater14]

One question - I noticed a few different methods throughout all 7 pages of the thread. (Yes, I read all the pages), Which is the best/most realistic money/easiest?

[MurderSkillz]

Dude, with a question like that the secret service will be at your door within a week tops.

Which is fake or real? serials were blurred.

[gzagenius]

Did you use bleaching?I suppose teh bottom one is real

[MurderSkillz]

No bleaching don't work. Your right bottom is real.
Top bill is rag paper

[gzagenius]

The top one is really good.Actually , the little ink stain on the bottom one gave it away.

[MurderSkillz]

Damn. Maybe I shouldn't have PS that out. lol

[Skater14]

MurderSkillz, which question?

[MurderSkillz]

This question.

Originally Posted by Skater14

Question: Could I print $20 bill images and tape it carefully over a $1 bill that HASN'T been cleaned?