How to make counterfeit money and blank checks(complete freebase method)

[Skater14]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

This question.

Ahh, I'll remove it. thanks.

[checkers]

on the topic of passing them off, i live in australia and i dare say money changers around here would be on the look out but if someone took them to a poor country nearby, so i would go to thailand or bali or for americans maybe mexico, where there are tourists and pass them off to people there who dont actually know much about what to look for does anyone think this will work

[MurderSkillz]

I think we have already discussed this topic.

[Skater14]

Shetlen, I want to print bills from scratch.

I know what paper I need (You stated it in page 3),

But what aging process should I do?

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by Skater14

Shetlen, I want to print bills from scratch.

I know what paper I need (You stated it in page 3),

But what aging process should I do?

That's been posted as well - it's on page 5

[Skater14]

Originally Posted by shetlan

That's been posted as well - it's on page 5

Sorry, didn't look hard enough, thanks.

Does anybody have a link to $20 bill images? I can't find any, they all have stupid markings so printing them would be useless.

[coupe68]

I have a hp photosmart c7280 all-in-one printer (which is a pretty nice printer), but when I print the bill it prints too dark. The ink on a bill is gray, but when I print mine, it's close to black. However, my friends printer prints the bill out right but he doesn't counterfeit. Is there a cheap printer/copier out there that prints a bill pretty decent? Thanks.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by coupe68

I have a hp photosmart c7280 all-in-one printer (which is a pretty nice printer), but when I print the bill it prints too dark. The ink on a bill is gray, but when I print mine, it's close to black. However, my friends printer prints the bill out right but he doesn't counterfeit. Is there a cheap printer/copier out there that prints a bill pretty decent? Thanks.

It's already been posted. As tired as I am of saying this:

READ THE THREAD

[coupe68]

I have a counterfeit-detector pen and I tried it on an ivory tint 25%, 24 lb piece of fine linen paper, and the paper did not work.....I kno this isn't really a big deal cuz most people don't use these but I'm just sayin

[coupe68]

sorry..shetlan already said the pens don't work...my bad

[MurderSkillz]

I know a mist of hairspray works. Try that and see what you get. I can't remember what it feels like after the mist. Do a test and do tell us.

By the way, instead of double posting. Just edit your thread.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

I know a mist of hairspray works. Try that and see what you get. I can't remember what it feels like after the mist. Do a test and do tell us.

By the way, instead of double posting. Just edit your thread.

What kind of hairspray are you using? I tried that and it turned several of my bills a yellowish color (it absorbs the oil from skin).

My aging method has been putting them in a dryer with poker chips to smack them around.

[bostonboy]

Firstly thank you all for your posts this has to be the most insightfull bshock topic to date. I was thinking, coul one make a copy of the water mark make it trasparent almost to ghost, print to paper BEFORE you print the bill. Then you would have almost what you need, it shows up when you place it to the light but not so much normaly. Just a thought, let me know

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by bostonboy

Firstly thank you all for your posts this has to be the most insightfull bshock topic to date. I was thinking, coul one make a copy of the water mark make it trasparent almost to ghost, print to paper BEFORE you print the bill. Then you would have almost what you need, it shows up when you place it to the light but not so much normaly. Just a thought, let me know

Printing a watermark doesn't work. If you make it light enough to be invisible most of the time, it won't be visible when you hold it to light.

If you want to make watermarks, you need a custom embosser stamp or a metal portrait of the president in question. In either case, the watermark must be placed before the bill is printed. With the embosser, you can put the watermark on when the paper is still wet. With the metal portrait, you would iron the paper over the metal impression - leaving the impression in the paper.

I've been looking into how practical/cost effective either of these concepts would be (one could print $50s and $100s if one could create watermarks).

[MurderSkillz]

Suave unscented with Extra Hold works fine for me. If spraying it on is too much. Try spraying little at a time on a paper towel and "dabbing" it on making sure not to smear the ink. As for the watermark. I am also thinking of some ways and am kinda low on ink for testing. Funny thing is when anyone looks at a bill to the light they look for the watermark. Meaning a security strip would not be needed.

It's prob. best if you spray it on before the ink so it doesn't smear.

[bostonboy]

Thank you very much that was very helpful. In my country there is also an security strip in the middle of the paper is there a cost effective way of making it, its the foil type? Also the sugestion above, while the paper is not dry, does it work with real paper, that is paper one cleaned? Sorry and lastly Lye is still the best way to clean, but what is the best copier to print onto cleanned paper? Thank you again

[MurderSkillz]

Originally Posted by bostonboy

Also the sugestion above, while the paper is not dry, does it work with real paper, that is paper one cleaned?

I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you mean by "real" paper? As for the type of printer to be used that was already discussed numerous times. Please take the time out of your day to read the thread for the updated techniques as well as the progression that has been made since the beginning of this thread.

I'm not aware of a way to imitate the security strip at this time. If there were a way I'm sure the technique wouldn't be easy or cheap. Maybe the same goes for watermarks. We shall see. I would work on the watermark before the security strip. Like I said, pretty much when anyone looks to the light to see if it's real they look for the watermark instead of a security strip. I feel as long as they see the watermark they do not check any other security features with the naked eye since seeing a watermark would confirm it as being real. Why check anything else? Hope it made sense.

[bostonboy]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you mean by "real" paper? As for the type of printer to be used that was already discussed numerous times. Please take the time out of your day to read the thread for the updated techniques as well as the progression that has been made since the beginning of this thread.

I'm not aware of a way to imitate the security strip at this time. If there were a way I'm sure the technique wouldn't be easy or cheap. Maybe the same goes for watermarks. We shall see. I would work on the watermark before the security strip. Like I said, pretty much when anyone looks to the light to see if it's real they look for the watermark instead of a security strip. I feel as long as they see the watermark they do not check any other security features with the naked eye since seeing a watermark would confirm it as being real. Why check anything else? Hope it made sense.

What I ment is ¨paper¨ that is printed by the gov. That paper and as for the printer there does not seem to be a general consensus of opinion on which works best. Lastly the security strip is not in the paper but above it that is it seems to be printed after or placed there after the printing.

[bostonboy]

Here a link to sample US notes, clearly need shopping but they may work.

http://www.usrarecurrency.com/1934A$10SilverNorthAfricaFR2309AU55SnA98328652A.ht m

[Aequitas]

I was thinking about how to make watermarks and does anyone know if the marks are thinner or thicker than the surrounding paper? If they're thicker I was thinking you could use something to just stamp on the mark or maybe freehand it if you're artistic. Would this work at all? I have no idea how to do it if the marks are thin.

[MurderSkillz]

Here is a patent I found with bank note watermarking.
Digital watermarking and banknotes - Patent EP0961239


@ bostonboy: You would not need to use hairspray on real banknote paper seeing it is already passable with the pen test. You use hairspray on 25% cotton paper to pass the pen test. Do some testing.

[bostonboy]

@ bostonboy: You would not need to use hairspray on real banknote paper seeing it is already passable with the pen test. You use hairspray on 25% cotton paper to pass the pen test. Do some testing.[/quote]

Thank you I know of the hairspray, however my question has more to do with the printer and what you use or is used by most for the best result. I am purchasing a hp scanner-printer with photo printing. Thank you ahead of time

[MurderSkillz]

Like I said it was already discussed in this thread. Did you read the whole thread like I asked?

Ok, which are real and fake?




It seems suave no longer works. There is another kind I have its not as brown but its not yellow(PASS) either. =/
I think we should find a way to pass the pen test with 25% cotton paper. I have scans of older bills where all they had was pretty much pen test at the register. We must find a way. Shetlan? lol

[shetlan]

I'm guessing that the five and ten are the fakes.

As for passing the pen test:
I've never considered the pen test an important or worthwhile venture - nobody uses the pens and they're use is actually prohibited by many retail companies (the pens promote laziness and are only 60% accurate).

If you want to beat the pen, you simply need stop it from touching the paper - you need to coat the paper with something that stops the pen from touching the paper. This substance must also contain no starch. From here, it's a matter of checking the labels of different hairsprays.

[MurderSkillz]

I'm going to have to find something to do it. I'll most likely figure it out some time soon. lol As for the bills good answer. Anyone else wanna guess?

[shetlan]

There is the option of switching to the 100% cotton paper instead of the 25%. 100% cotton paper passes the pen test with no modification (or it should in theory).

[groundzero_1]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

Ok, which are real and fake?

I'm going to guess the $20 is, the top border is too short and the bottom border seems too long.

[MurderSkillz]

Nice try. lol They are all fake. As for the $20 thats how the original was cut.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

Nice try. lol They are all fake. As for the $20 thats how the original was cut.

I guessed the 10 and the 5 because the ten has wrinkles in it which are characteristic of the printing process and the five was "perfectly" centered. The 2003 series is almost never perfectly centered.

I assumed the $20 was real because it's a smidge off center.

[MurderSkillz]

Ya um my printer has a problem with taking the downy papers. First time I tried it it got jammed to hell! I was just gonna take it to the local computer shop to ask them to get out the bill for me. Haha. But no, I put the wrinkles there.

EDIT: Just got some 100% cotton paper and still fails the pen test.