How to make counterfeit money and blank checks(complete freebase method)

[bostonboy]

Check this out boys, triie story I am in Central America, live here. I am making some of the product we talk about here, so I ask a good friend if he knows anyone that would like to buy it. He says to me no and in fact I have another client that has the same product and cant find a buyer. So I ask to see the product, after three days he comes up with it. Boys, it is a perfect hundred dollar bill, the color is slightly off to the green side but not so much that one would place to much attention. It has the all the security marks of the 2003 hundred, watermark, woven hundred on the side etc. The paper passes the UV light test PERFECTLY it was made in Mexico and was part of a drug deal that mounted 24million dollars and 250k of them were placed in wtih the payment. My question is this how in the hell did they do it? It looks perfect, took it to a casino, no problem, local stores, no problem. How did they do the watermark and place the hundred security in the paper? Anyone? I should add that the paper is slightly heavier or thicker than the normal.

[realgone]

Sounds like some that floated thru swim hands about 2 summers ago; didn't pass the feel/handling test, but passed pen test. Lots of Africans were trying o move it, but at ridiculous prices (one quote was 60!!) Word was they originated from Asia. Around the same time, swim came across smaller denominations ones ($20 & $50); better paper (swim stated they felt "realer"), but inkwork was off.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by bostonboy

Check this out boys, triie story I am in Central America, live here. I am making some of the product we talk about here, so I ask a good friend if he knows anyone that would like to buy it. He says to me no and in fact I have another client that has the same product and cant find a buyer. So I ask to see the product, after three days he comes up with it. Boys, it is a perfect hundred dollar bill, the color is slightly off to the green side but not so much that one would place to much attention. It has the all the security marks of the 2003 hundred, watermark, woven hundred on the side etc. The paper passes the UV light test PERFECTLY it was made in Mexico and was part of a drug deal that mounted 24million dollars and 250k of them were placed in wtih the payment. My question is this how in the hell did they do it? It looks perfect, took it to a casino, no problem, local stores, no problem. How did they do the watermark and place the hundred security in the paper? Anyone? I should add that the paper is slightly heavier or thicker than the normal.

Ah, you've come in contact with the Mexican Super Bills.
Wanna' hear something crazy - it's not the drug dealers printing it, it's the Mexican government.

[MurderSkillz]

Ya there are perfect $100 bills coming out of Pakistan. They say that's a big part of terrorist getting cash. Counterfeits.

[bostonboy]

Well I dont know where there from but it cant get any better, I PERSONALY, checked them out under the UV and it passed like NP three times, at area stores, and CASINO, they just use the light. Here is the ¨rubb¨ the country as a whole outside of the big city use the pen. Just the malls and large stores use the UV light. The problem is the amount on the face as the exchange here is 18 to 1 getting closser to 19 to 1. So you come in with 100us and its 1900 or 1800 of the area money, hard to swallow for them so not all will gladly accept them. Anywho, my question and forgive me for having just questions, but can the 25% be made to pass the pen test or not? I have read the string and it seems not. Any help would.

[MurderSkillz]

Like I said I am currently doing some testing. I only get it to pass the pen test half way. Its dark yellow instead of black or brown being a fail. And light yellow being a pass. I'm half way there. Would be nice if some others would help instead of me being on my own and doing all the hard work like Shetlan and I.

[bostonboy]

Sorry Murder, but it does read ¨heavy is the head that BARES the crown¨. The hair spray then is out I see, if you could let me know what is the science behind it perhaps I can start up aswell. I read from shetlan that starch may be a key and blocking the pen from coming into contact with the paper.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by bostonboy

Sorry Murder, but it does read ¨heavy is the head that BARES the crown¨. The hair spray then is out I see, if you could let me know what is the science behind it perhaps I can start up aswell. I read from shetlan that starch may be a key and blocking the pen from coming into contact with the paper.

Boocking the pen from touching the paper is largely why the pens don't always work (advertised to work 60% of the time).

Human skin has alot of oil on it, enough oil can block the pen from touching the paper. I'll do a little testing on this and see where it goes.

Also, skillz, perhaps you should try washing the 100% cotton before doing the pen test. There's no starch in it since it's cotton not paper, but they likely use a starch based chemical in the pressing process.

[MurderSkillz]

I washed and did everything. They are still using starch as a binder to hold the fibers together. I have an idea... Could be pricey and would need a connection.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

I washed and did everything. They are still using starch as a binder to hold the fibers together. I have an idea... Could be pricey and would need a connection.

If the idea is custom paper, yeah it's pricey.
I've been discussing custom paper with a local paper mill, expensive stuff.

[MurderSkillz]

YouTube - Passing counterfeit pen test

[japsey@gmail.com]

Im doing a workshop for our team on how to spot counterfeit bills and I want to have a bunch of counterfeit bills to show our team what they look like. How do I buy some counterfeit bills for this exercise? I need $20's and 50's....

[MurderSkillz]

Originally Posted by japsey@gmail.com

Im doing a workshop for our team on how to spot counterfeit bills and I want to have a bunch of counterfeit bills to show our team what they look like. How do I buy some counterfeit bills for this exercise? I need $20's and 50's....

I am not sure, sounds illegal to me. I sir do nothing illegal. lol

[bostonboy]

murderkills could you send me the wash.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

I am not sure, sounds illegal to me. I sir do nothing illegal. lol

It' doesn't sound illegal, it sounds like a set-up.

Feel free to contact the FBI or Secret Service about doing such a workshop.

As for the wash, nicely done.

[wildozer]

hey, so this works with American bills obviously. what about Australian? anyone know?

[loveysunflower]

I have tried the lye method and I'm having a hard time from keeping the paper from not shrinking once I place it in the lye. Also the security strip becomes messed up. Anyone have any ideas?

I have tried to get 25% cotton to pass pen test and was achieved it after I sprayed ALOT of hairspray on the paper but the paper really didn't feel right

[MurderSkillz]

Originally Posted by loveysunflower

I have tried the lye method and I'm having a hard time from keeping the paper from not shrinking once I place it in the lye. Also the security strip becomes messed up. Anyone have any ideas?

I have tried to get 25% cotton to pass pen test and was achieved it after I sprayed ALOT of hairspray on the paper but the paper really didn't feel right

If it starts to curl or shrink you have way too much lye. Try cutting the lye down a bit and also make sure you mix the lye well before you drop your bill in it. The security strip doesn't matter if you are doing '93 series bills and earlier. They don't have security strips. But it sounds like you are rubbing way too hard. Do it very gentle. That's why with bills of that age ('93 and older) as long as you got the feel test passed your pretty good. But if you pass the feel test and the pen test at the register. Your 100% good they will take it. Go for making '93 bills and earlier that are still in circulation.

[bostonboy]

[quote=shetlan;66612]It' doesn't sound illegal, it sounds like a set-up.

Feel free to contact the FBI or Secret Service about doing such a workshop.

As for the wash, nicely done.[/QUOT

Shetlan do you know the wash that he is talking about, if so could you send it to me

[MurderSkillz]

The wash is useless. I felt the paper today and it feels like crap.. Back to the drawing board.

[groundzero_1]

Originally Posted by MurderSkillz

The wash is useless. I felt the paper today and it feels like crap.. Back to the drawing board.

Well please keep working on it, and I wouldn't suggest posting the results to the whole forum. there are other people that read this you know. Just let us know if you get something working, or close to it.

[MurderSkillz]

I know. I have something close which doesn't destroy the paper after a couple of days. I'll take a pic in a bit and tell me if you would call it pass or fail.

[Era_Rebel]

I'm working on a pretty good method for starting bills from scratch and have been playing around with 25% Cotton, 24lbs paper and have been getting semi-realistic results. I was wondering if anyone has tried %25 Cotton, Linen paper for this technique? Real USD use a mix of %25 Cotton and %75 Linen and the paper I found seems pretty damn close without doing a Downy/Water soak. I'm going to pick some up later today I'll post how it turns out.

Also some of the newer bills (I use a 2003 series $10) have some green shiny paint over one of the "10"s on the bill. If you wanted to go the extra mile you could get some Green PearlX paint and a sponge brush to dab it on. Might not matter because most clerks are idiots anyway, but it adds a little authenticity.

[MurderSkillz]

Pic of bill and proof that it's fake.

Thanks

[kinkywinky]

So I dont know if this has already been said but I've read and re read this thread and cant find it so if i missed it then dont yell at me
Heres an enhancement for the printing on 25% rag paper.
I use an Epson printer and have found that the Durabrite ink for it is sealed so it wont wash off in water unless you scrub at it.
The pre-process is to print them onto the 25% rag paper like previously discussed but without any softening treatment.

1. After you have your crisp bills printed on the 25% rag paper, I put them in a water bottle with a cap of downy in it (or any container of your choice) and let them soak for 24 hours. (i used a water bottle because with a lid i was able to make sure they are all underwater and can shake it up to move the solution around)
2. After they have soaked, take them out (carefully because since they are wet they may still rip) and let them dry for a little bit to dry them out a little bit. (i put them in a large, heavy book so they wouldnt warp. SAT practice book ironically)
3. They will have a very soft feel to them (and smell good too). This gives it a little more worn feeling. But while they are still a little damp (not dripping but still have a little water feel in them) I put them around a card that i have. (just wrap them around a gift card and let them finish drying) this will give them the bent and slightly used look that a circulated 20 will have.
4. They air dry on the card and are ready to use.

After this process they feel and look great. But you must still be aware who shown to because they do not pass the pen test since the starch will not dissolve in the downy.

--On a side note: I was wondering if this a plausible way to pass the pen test because where I live they still use it most frequently.

I can make my own paper so if i take a 25% rag paper as the "recycled" paper and break it down into pulp and make paper out of it (using the method on the link below), will the starch on the paper have dissolved through the process?

How to Make and Recycle Paper

[Era_Rebel]

Nice post Kink, but how is that different from soaking the paper first and then printing? I got some pretty decent bills but the feel wasn't right. Real bills felt more "waxy" and crisp, even if they looked old. I have yet to lift some Linen paper to test but I'll try to soon. I actually made about $30 for weed last night with some not right feeling bills by getting change from stores and such. One clerk did catch a fake because he noticed the feeling of the bill which led him to check for a watermark.
As racist as it sounds the best way to move the fakes is to find old Asian store owners and ask for change (Two $10s) They won't really bother with checking to hard because they see so many bills in a day, and they also don't really know the rules (Most) so they wont call you on anything.

EDIT: If ya wanted to go all out with watermarks check out "Aegis" on this page Thermography and Business Card Slitting Equipment Manufacturer - Therm-O-Type Corporation could mean Decent $50's if not $100's
Also what about spray on sealant for the pen test? They sell that stuff at many art stores and I'm sure you could spray it on and buff it out to look legit and hide the starch.

[kinkywinky]

The end result is not very different than washing beforehand but I think it may be a little more efficient. The main reason for posting was because I wanted to address a few issues people had when they washed before printing. One was that the paper didnt print right if it had been warped or is too limp after soaking. But also people were wondering how to seal the ink so when it gets wet it wont run. I wanted to point out that Durabrite ink works great. Soaking it for awhile wont even run the ink.

[Era_Rebel]

Ah well yeah whatever works. I noticed my bills couldn't get as crisp as the real thing using %25 cotton, businesspaper but I was considering using starch to toughen them up. Yes I know the pens check for starch but its whatever.

Also when you wash a $5 with the Lye, does the water mark stay intact?

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by Era_Rebel

Ah well yeah whatever works. I noticed my bills couldn't get as crisp as the real thing using %25 cotton, businesspaper but I was considering using starch to toughen them up. Yes I know the pens check for starch but its whatever.

Also when you wash a $5 with the Lye, does the water mark stay intact?

The very nature of a watermark should answer that queation on its own.

Incidentally, if you want the bills to have a crisper feel, iron them under a piece of construcation paper. Personally, I don't know why you would want to make the bills feel crisp. As we've discussed before, an aged bill is easier to pass than a crisp one.

[Era_Rebel]

Yes but with the paper the bills feel thinner and not quite right and I'm sure that's the only reason one of mine were rejected at the store.