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09-10-2008, 10:41 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | ATM Skimmer Hello every buddy... well im a new guy in this forum and i want to say that you guyz are doing a great JOB for Underground World... keep it alive...
i am here for a little help regarding ATM Skimmers... as most of the experts know what i am talking about...
i just want to know that does this ATM Skimmers work in ASIAN countries specially South Asian countries like India etc... | 
09-10-2008, 06:16 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Yes they do. | 
09-12-2008, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by paininvmuthafuckinass Yes they do. | thanks alot bro... one more thing!!! how can you say that i mean obviously you must have knowledge about so if you donot mind little explaining about it...
i really appreciate that.
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09-26-2008, 12:52 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | where can u buy these at? | 
09-26-2008, 04:55 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Very rare vendors in IRC will sell them; make them yourself. | 
10-06-2008, 01:59 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | can you give me some more info on skimming and pos logging, the basics , how its done.
thanks bro |  | |  | 
10-08-2008, 10:44 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I know very little about POS logging as I have never actually seen it done and most people who post information about it later claim that they haven't actually tried it and are going off information they gained from a 3rd party.
The basic idea of a skimmer is that it is a small plastic device that is placed over the card reader on an ATM. This device contains a mag stripe reader. When you insert your card into the ATM the magnetic stripe of the card passes through the skimmer on its way to the atm mouth and your skimmer copies and stores the track data from the card. Later on you can remove your skimmer and write the track data on to a blank card and pow. You have a copy of somebodies debit or credit card and they don't even know it.
To get the pin number you either use a hidden camera mounted near the ATM with a clean view of the PIN pad or you place a false pin pad over top of the real one so you can store their pin digitally. Some more advanced skimmers have GSM connectivity so you can text yourself the track data and pin number to yourself live.
supposedly people can also place bugs in POS terminals and skim the debit track data and pin that way however I have not seen this done.
it IS however possible to plase a small recording device on the phone line that the POS machine is hooked in to and record the track data from credit cards that way however i'm not entirely sure how to decrypt the sound data and convert it into a workable track. I suppose you could also do this with debit cards and just eyeball the pin number as they type it in. |  | 
10-15-2008, 08:30 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | QQQQhttp://www.hackerscatalog.com/Products/Books/Credit_Finances_Scams/index.htmlQQQQ
Is this site legit?uh remove the Q's btw...think there is a link rule 4 this site but cant remember.Those are skimmers right?uh and if you put a card through then does it get the cc #, exp date, ccv thing and all that?If so then WOW...i wouldnt need the pin, id just order stuff to the vacant house next door or get a lot of porn subscriptions.The only problemo is that newb like me would just put it over the actual reader or swipe someones cc, but from what ive seen it seems the pros make custom cases for their skimmers to put over the actual reader.Oh and I remember redbox sending me a warning about skimmers on their machines last year. | 
10-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Love the thread, I would love to know if anyone knows of getting skimmers in Canada? | 
10-16-2008, 12:57 AM
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and just make your own skimmer. Its alot cheaper then buying them. | 
10-16-2008, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Knight
and just make your own skimmer. Its alot cheaper then buying them. |
Easier said then done... | 
10-16-2008, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chronntec Easier said then done... |
the only part i see being hard about making a skimmer is getting the molding of the ATM machine without someone noticing | 
10-16-2008, 05:15 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | there is a basic guide on how to make one on the net, google "how to make a atm skimmer" | 
10-18-2008, 07:05 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I suggest that you actually look at plans some people have done. Lucky for you its been done! Halbot mail | 
10-18-2008, 11:09 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Yeah.....cause that looks Sooo easy to make... I think I would just buy one. | 
10-19-2008, 02:06 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | that device looks custom and not made out of a portable card reader from what i can tell, but you could maybe make one like that from a portable one if you updated the maghead and even the battery, it would be even more likely if you turned it the bezel around. that skimmer looks like an anti skimmer VERY nice good post. | 
10-20-2008, 02:23 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | MM can you tell us the details on pos logging, Do you buy a BT portable reader and tap the maghead of the pos? | 
10-20-2008, 06:09 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | what kind of encryption are we dealing with here, or would we just need to decode the sound back into data? | 
11-04-2008, 09:03 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | whats the difference between a skimmer n a card reader? isnt it the same concept? except an atm skimmer is attached to a machine and fools the user of the atm ? i can easily be working in a place and if i deal with customers who use there credit cards i can just swipe there card through the reader before the real credit machine and viola just extract the data at a later time and write to a card... correct? | 
11-05-2008, 12:39 AM
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Rep Power: 3 | | Fame - moneymaker was refering to Point of Sale (POS) data logging. For example, when you swipe your card on the point of sale system, the data is encrypted, then sent over the telephone line as audio similar to a fax machine.
But in answer to your question... you are correct. There is no difference between a skimmer and a card reader/logger. But don't bother wasting your time with moneymaker, he is a scammer. Check my thread titled "POS Data Logging" for details. |  | hackers catalog |  | 
12-01-2008, 02:08 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | hackers catalog Quote:
Originally Posted by muh-dick qqqqhttp://www.hackerscatalog.com/products/books/credit_finances_scams/index.htmlqqqq
Is This Site Legit?uh Remove The Q's Btw...think There Is A Link Rule 4 This Site But Cant Remember.those Are Skimmers Right?uh And If You Put A Card Through Then Does It Get The Cc #, Exp Date, Ccv Thing And All That?if So Then Wow...i Wouldnt Need The Pin, Id Just Order Stuff To The Vacant House Next Door Or Get A Lot Of Porn Subscriptions.the Only Problemo Is That Newb Like Me Would Just Put It Over The Actual Reader Or Swipe Someones Cc, But From What Ive Seen It Seems The Pros Make Custom Cases For Their Skimmers To Put Over The Actual Reader.oh And I Remember Redbox Sending Me A Warning About Skimmers On Their Machines Last Year. | Rippers Dont Buy Shit From Them,they Send Rubbish Mainly Written Years Ago,cds Fuckin Useless...dont Waste Your Money.... | 
03-28-2009, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GuyFawks I suggest that you actually look at plans some people have done. Lucky for you its been done! Halbot mail | very nice post, im poor with electronics so i dont have the know how to construct one, but how the hell did you find that?! |  | I Want Cashier Be Honest Person, |  | 
07-03-2009, 02:22 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I Want Cashier Be Honest Person, i want CASHIER and honest person , i have 100% Valid dump and some time dump+pin ,
if any new person want to join me he must be Buy MSR206/505c or he can buy from me ,MSR206 so first deal i will take money for 1 dump 200$ , advance ; i wanna serious person who need to make money with me , so please email me , ( john.bro@hotmail.com )
i am waiting for honest person,
just SWIPE IN MERCHANT and send me my 50% money , if you wanna buy then i am agree to selling okkkk | 
07-04-2009, 10:45 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | okay this is all great and all and im just loving the scammer with the very bad english above me!lol but i could be wrong thats just incase someone starts giving out to me which seems to happen quite alot round here. anyway i have read all posts relating to carding in all its forms but im still yet to come across a thread or post which answers my following question: all modern credit cards, debit and general atm cards have chips in them(chip and pin) so does this make a difference when you go and clone a card??? because i have not seen any texts which even mention the chip in cards? | 
07-06-2009, 02:20 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I believe chip and pin only stops people from going into a shop, and buying whatever they please, and just copying the signature on the card to 'prove they are the name on the card'. My only concern is, how do you clone a card?? Do you just need to swipe it back through the MSR? |  | responce |  | 
07-07-2009, 07:19 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | responce yeh that is a problem i believe that the chip in the original card is encoded with information that is read and then you but the pin into the atm machine to get money out. so cloning without the chip would be impossible but there really doesnt seem to be any clear questions googling! |  | |  | 
07-08-2009, 12:50 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I just copied this off wiki;
Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) Fraud
To use an ATM has always required the use of a PIN. There have been many very sophisticated methods devised to obtain this information plus the information on the magnetic strip, including dummy ATMs. The universal introduction of Chip and PIN means there will be far more opportunity for PINs to be compromised as PINs will need to be entered in relatively insecure locations (for example, at supermarket counters). The major banks in the UK are seriously concerned that ATM fraud will increase as a result of PINs being compromised at point of sale.
In general the chip prevents counterfeit fraud. However, ATMs can still be vulnerable as the chip can effectively be disabled. The magnetic stripe contains a service code which tells the ATM what type of card it is. For instance, 101 identifies it is magnetic stripe, whilst 201 means it is a chip card. Also, on the chip there is a similar flag which tells the ATM whether it should read from the magnetic stripe or the chip. Further, if the chip malfunctions for some reason then many ATMs will default to using the magnetic stripe. Any fraud detection system must detect the status of the card to determine if there has been a failure of the chip. Many ATM used overseas continue to use the magnetic strip.
Can anyone shed any light on to this subject? |  |  | |  | 
07-26-2009, 06:59 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | hehe ,... I am a carder and ,....
(1) you CANT copy the telephone datastream as it is encrypted and DOSENT contain the Dump anyways
(2) Skimmers are small handheld (2"X2") devices that record the "Dump"
(3) the dump is made up of 2 tracks track 2 :CCnumber;the equal sign;the expdat;code and the Algo like this :
track 2 : 4460248529375446=12021010000000551
track 1 : a letter 'B' then the CCnumber then last name , then 1st name then the rest of the Info again like this :
track 1 : B4460248529375446^CARD/GIFT^20210100000000000000000551000000
the "Algo" is contained Only on the "dump and so must be Swiped/Skimmed from an axtual card....its FAR easier to Buy them than to try and Make a Skimmer (IMPOSSIBLE unles you are a Fucking genius and familliar with all this!!!)
(4) dumps go for $20-$50 IF!!! you can find a GOOD Vendor
(Good-Luck as I havent had a lot of Luck buying from new Vendors hehe
I make about average $200 from a $20 dump (I pay $500 for 35 dumps gold and a few platniums and gross back $3500-$8000 in sales NOT for cash , but as support for my Other ventures (free gas , groceries , Ciggerretts , booze etc etc )
Good-Luck N00b13S !!! but its alot of fun and it makes me V E R Y Popular !!!
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08-03-2009, 09:47 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Credit Card Scam Pin i have a lot of data credit card i am seller but i need to pin ,
one person meet me he say i skimmed in track 1 & 2 from hotel he is in USA , he get USA DUMP ,he scam email i don't know what he doing then he get password i mean CREDIT CARD = PIN number
so tell me , how i get pin
ma bro,, | 
08-04-2009, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rahmatalvi i have a lot of data credit card i am seller but i need to pin ,
one person meet me he say i skimmed in track 1 & 2 from hotel he is in USA , he get USA DUMP ,he scam email i don't know what he doing then he get password i mean CREDIT CARD = PIN number
so tell me , how i get pin
ma bro,, | No clue what you're talking about....
To the rest of you: This is not the best forum to learn this kind of stuff. You need to ask carders, and there aren't many carders here.  | |
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