Fake id's in the UK - how to

[dan_uk]

So, you want to have evidence that you are older than you really are, presumably over 18 (drinking age in the UK), and you think the best way to do this is to get a fake id...

WRONG!

The best possible way to do this is to have an official id, with the wrong date of birth on it, thus making you the age you want to be...

The following 2 methods and other advice has all been tried and tested by me, and has worked much better than i could ever have hoped for. As far as i am aware this information has not been presented by anyone else before, and if it has, i came up with these 2 ideas independently of them.



There are many official proof of age/id cards you can buy that are accepted at most places, such as the citizencard, etc. At my school a couple of years ago, there were forms lying around for an 'NUS Associate Card' - which gives you discounts at major retailers, as well as giving you proof you are a student, and proof of age. Like all similar cards, you must fill in a form with your details, get a teacher or other respectable person who knows you to sign and confirm this is all true, attach a photo and pay a small amount of money ( ~£10 or so) to get the card. Herein lies your oppurtunity...

METHOD 1:

- Obtain one of the forms that does not require you to send off your birth
certificate/passport to prove your date of birth (DOB), such as the 'NUS Associate Card' card i used.
- Fill it out, IN PENCIL, with your correct DOB
- Give it to a busy teacher, who will sign and date it to say all the informatiuon is correct
- Now go over the form IN PEN, and change your DOB to make yourself over 18.
- Attach photo and money, send off, wait a few weeks, and voila!



But some places (strict bar/club bouncers for example) will only accept a passport or driving license as acceptable id. So you're probably thinking, there's no way that can be faked, right? Exactly... but hope is not lost, as the same places will almost always accept a PHOTOCOPY of the original document, which CAN be faked...

METHOD 2:

- You'll need your own passport, and also that of someone born a year or 2 before before you (if you were born in the same year as them, you'd be over 18)
- Scan both passports into your computer
- Using MS Paint, Photoshop or any other image editing software, you need to paste their year from the DOB section over yours (this will look seamless)
- THERE IS ANOTHER THING YOU NEED TO EDIT AS WELL! Along the bottom of your passport there is a string of characters, which will contain the last 2 numbers of your year of birth at some point (eg: if you were born in 1988, '88' will appear at some point - this will be really obvious
- Using numbers from that line (you should have a complete set of 0-9 on your passport alone, if not between the two, edit these 2 digits so they are the same as the year of birth you edited above.
- Save the edited passport (keep the other 2 scans for future reference as well) and print it out - if you have done this well, you can print it out in full colour and it won't look edited at all.
- Bingo!

NB - This photocopy can then be used to also obtain one of the stricter official id cards which require a copy of your passport/birth certificate to be sent to prove your DOB



USING THESE ID'S:

I've never had any problems, as combined, these 2 forms of id are easily as good as a genuine driving license/passport - they've got me into all the clubs/bars in my town, and also got me served in all the supermarkets round here, from the age of 16 onwards. But here are a few pointers on using them, based on my experiences

- Off-Licenses (UK equivalent of a US liquor store) generally don't give a shit about id. If they do even ask for one, almost anything that isn't a blatant fake will be accepted.

- The major supermarkets (Tesco, Sainsbury's) can be quite strict at times - but you will learn to recognise which cashiers will serve anyone without question (young men are the best, old women are the worst)

- Don't make a big deal about being asked for id - act as if this happens all the time, and be polite! Ask if a student card/photocopy is acceptable, and they'll almost always take it.

- Be pro-active. When walking up to a till/doorman, ask them if they want id - most of the time they'll say you're fine without seeing it, and if they do ask you for it, they'll be a lot more lenient - the fact that you are willing to show it illustrates that do in fact have id, as you are 18.

- For clubs/pubs/bars, when going in groups, it helps if you don't all have the same kind of id - although in some cases it may benefit you - "Oh, we all got these NUS cards from school at the beginning of upper 6th *shrugs* ' always worked for me and my friends. It also helps if you go in with someone who is genuinely over 18, and don't go in in huge groups - break up into smaller groups of 2-4 people, and don't have it all guys/girls unless you have to.

- Above all though - BE CONFIDENT!



Hope this has been of some help to you all, if you have any further questions, ask away

[Secure1]

Hello,

The guy who posted the stuff about photocopying official documents as you can't get them with fake details on is an idiot as is anyone who accepts them (very few people from my expierence). I have and am still working as a security consultant for many corporations and occasionally do work for governments. I have worked for the USA and UK governments and have learned of many ways to obtain official documents straight from the government with fake details. While I cannot reveal the majority of them due to confidentiality agreements I can tell you a well publicized one.

This only works for the UK, I cannot currently tell you any that work in the US as I am currently working for the US government and this would be breach of contract.


DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS FOR INFORAMTIONAL PURPOSES ONLY, I CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW YOU USE IT.

This is what you do:

1) First think of anyone you know who has died and was born on the desired year you wish to obtain as your date of birth. Alternatively get access to death records (a very easy process, google will tell you how).

2) You now need to find out as many of the following details of the deceased as you can:

Surname at Birth
Forenames at Birth
Date Of Birth
Father's Surname
Father's Forenames
Mother's Surnames
Mother's Forenames
Mother's Maiden Names
Place of Birth

3) If you were able to obtain all the details above then you can google the phrase "Obtain british birth certificate" and fill in a form online and pay a small fee and the birth certificate will be sent to you. If you were unable to obtain all these details (I'd say you need a minimum of Surname at birth, Forenames at Birth, and place of birth) then a trip to the Registry of Births and Deaths at St. Catherine's House in London is in order where you can still search for and purchase a copy of the required birth certificate.

If you have to go to the registry and you are only around 16 don't worry
you just need a good story as to why you want the certificate and only tell them if they ask otherwise you will seem suspicious. A good story would be something like you are doing a geneology project for school and were able to find out this person is a distant cousin online however you were unable to obtain his Father's name (only say if you haven't provided them with it) online so you need a copy of the certificate to obtain it and continue the project. Adults can just say they are doing your family's geneology. Or come up with your own story for your situation.

4) OK now you can either do this step now or before step 3 or even skip it depending on how much you want to cover your ass.

Go to google and type in "accomodation address." This is a service where a company lets you rent a mailing address off them. It can be quite expensive and the chance of you being caught is minimal so feel free to skip this step if it is too pricey for you.

5) Using the birth certificate and accommodation address (or your home address if you didn't get an accommodation address) you can now apply for a British Passport with your picture and the deceased's details. Don't worry about the government wondering why a dead person is applying for a passport, birth records and death records aren't cross-referenced. That is why you are unlikely to get caught and don't need an accommodation address.

This is also why you use a deceased person so there aren't multiple applications for a passport. The government does investigate those.




CONGRATULATIONS, you now have a FAKE BRITH CERTIFICATE and PASSPORT (which you can use as proof of ID all over the world and actually travel on).

I won't go into how but you could also apply for bank accounts, credit cards, and driver's licenses using this process and it is indeed how many people scam financial instutions out of millions. You can even vote in the name of the deceased if you know how.

If you have any questions or would like to know why this doesn't work in the USA feel free to email me: secure1@gekkotrading.cjb.net

I will say this is a rather long process. If you want an ID quick you are best going to the website in the above post and just paying the £10. From my experience working with the British government those IDs do work around 90% of the time. However my best advice to you is don;t do any of these wait till you are old enough.

[dan_uk]

Originally Posted by Secure1

Hello,

The guy who posted the stuff about photocopying official documents as you can't get them with fake details on is an idiot as is anyone who accepts them (very few people from my expierence).

I might have said it was impossible to get fake documents, but what i actually meant was this is both time consuming and costs you a fair bit - passports, birth certificates etc all cost money, which a lot of kids who want fake id (age 16/17) don't have. Also remember why kids want fake id - to buy alcohol underage, we don't need proper fake documents, just enough to let us into a club/get served at the local supermarket.

Lastly, about people accepting these documents, i'm afraid you're wrong on that, assuming we're talking about the same people here. While i don't doubt that security professionals such as yourself would instantly reject one of these doctored 'photocopies', the people who accept these as real are bouncers/doormen and store clerks, who aren't really looking out for such things. These 2 methods almost always worked for me, in such situations, but you'll have to trust me on that. Remember, this is only to buy alcohol/get in clubs, not anything major!

Thanks for the rest of your post though by the way, it was extremely informative, despite calling me an idiot :wink: (hehe)
:wink:

[Secure1]

Dan_uk sorry for calling you an idiot. I get caught up in this stuff, i'm a bit obsessive about my job.

[dan_uk]

Originally Posted by Secure1

Dan_uk sorry for calling you an idiot. I get caught up in this stuff, i'm a bit obsessive about my job.

Oh it doesn't bother me in the slightest, my last post was just making clear that this isn't for anything big, just buying alcohol underage, which doesn't require documents to your standard.

You quite clearly know a lot more about this than i do, so thanks for being here to tell everyone the things you know!

[Secure1]

No problem, I love sharing this. I used to be like you guys doing this stuff illegally all the time and trying to learn it. Now I get paid by governments and corporations to defraud them. Occasionally I even get to do really cool stuff like last year I got invited to Credenhill (the SAS new headquarters) and got to teach them how to obtain fake documents all over the world and get past border controls). If you guys really like doing this you should consider becoming Security Consultants.

By the way I've gotten requests in email to write more articles on how to commit crime but none have given me a specific topic. If anyone has a specific topic on any crime just email me: secure1@gekkotrading.cjb.net or post it here and I'll write it as long as it doesn't breach any of my current contracts. :lol:

[thug]

Identity fraud - das a sumfin u gota teach us. ders big money in that

*EDIT* by dan_uk

I think you meant: 'Identity Fraud - that is something you will have to teach us please, i hear there is a lot of money to be made doing it'

but then again i'm not sure... Please try and use correct english, it's really not that hard is it?

[spicypixel]

Yeah for me it would have to be how to dissapear from the UK ASAP without much effort, not much effort peparing I mean much effort on the acutall travel ie swim the channel :P

So how would anyone here go about escaping the UK at a moments notice

[discoboi]

Call me an idiot if you like.......


i bleached my passport. i had this cunning idea, i dipped a VERY fine surgical blade in some bleach and then scored delicatley the date so it resemled a 87 from an 89. thing is.... the area surrounding turned a brown little darker than the background. the idea worked. ..... but the bleach was not appropriate.

so here comes to my question, What other chemicals would bleach the paper without bleaching as hard as your average toilet bleach?????

ohh yeah... ive allready thaught about watering it down but i thik that it will spread across the paper too much.

any ideas or information would be very happily recieved.

[RemadE]

also, what would happen if you were caught trying to 'fraudulently' obtain an ID? for example they say you will be prosecuted etc

I know it's a pussy thing to believe, but do they trace your records? or can they ask for them to be investigated into in order to authenticate your age?

[headcase]

It's unlikely any legal action would be taking unless you're producing the fake ID's.

[EmptyCloak]

Dan....on all cards I've saw....Citizen Card & Validate UK say they will call and check your referee for your age before processing....if they do that and call my referee they'll tell them my actual age won't they?