Debt Recovery

kimblevic · #1 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 09:13 AM

I did not read the rules and therefore have received an infraction for trying to solicit services. Don't be like me.

groundzero_1 · #2 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 04:29 PM

So you're asking if someone can get your money back by any means?

Why not just steal his online banking pass?
Or take his credit card?
Or make him pay £80,000 for his life...

kimblevic · #3 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 04:50 PM

So you're asking if someone can get your money back by any means? Yes.

Why not just steal his online banking pass? Even if I was able to steal his pass and have his online banking codes, it's not a good idea, because he can monitor where the money is going to and press charges for stealing the money.

Or take his credit card? Even if I had his cc and pincode, he wouldn't have more than a few thousand limit.

Or make him pay £80,000 for his life... mmmh, this is an option I'm considering at the moment but then I could end up in jail if the bastard would press charges. Unless I find a way to prevent him from doing that.

V€ng€a©n€ · #4 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kimblevic

So you're asking if someone can get your money back by any means? Yes.

Why not just steal his online banking pass? Even if I was able to steal his pass and have his online banking codes, it's not a good idea, because he can monitor where the money is going to and press charges for stealing the money.

Or take his credit card? Even if I had his cc and pincode, he wouldn't have more than a few thousand limit.

Or make him pay £80,000 for his life... mmmh, this is an option I'm considering at the moment but then I could end up in jail if the bastard would press charges. Unless I find a way to prevent him from doing that.

these days almost any crime small or big can land you lots of jail time so you better be willing to take the risk yourself because I doubt anyone is going to randomly take this job. If the money is all really legitimate I don't know how you would be having problems there are lawyers everywhere that would take that case. Or you could make his life living hell, smash windows, steal is car, and threaten him till you get the money.

kimblevic · #5 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 06:54 PM

The money is really legitimate. Problem was that it's on his name in a broker account. That's why the lawyers are hesitant.

Your last suggestion is something I'll have to do anyway but you're right: anything can land you in jail and here's the irony: I make the money, then get scammed by a friend, then go to jail for getting my money back. And then I would be really mad!

Personally I haven't got a problem with scamming big corporations but you don't do that to friends. If you're working with other people, then TRUST is the most important thing, whether you're doing legal or illegal things (hope that the guy of the Chicago "crew" topic is reading this too :-))

shetlan · #6 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 07:13 PM

First off, what you're asking about isn't "Debt Recovery" it's a subset of "Asset Protection". "Debt Recovery" deals with getting out of debts you've accumulated.

Secondly, if you can supposedly 'prove' that he ows you the money based on an agreement between the two of you - then you should be able to find a few dozen lawyers lining up for the case. Anywhere where there's a pile of money to be made, lawyers circle like vultures.

Third, you've insisted that the money is from legitimate business dealings - again, if this is in fact the case, there should be dozens of lawyers lining up to take the case.

Fourth:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimblevic

Personally I haven't got a problem with scamming big corporations but you don't do that to friends.

He's not your friend kimble. He stole money from you - that definatively makes him "not your friend".

As for the idea of threatening him or doing some other illegal thing to get the money back - too late. You've already gone to the police and legal system with it; if he is suddenly 80,000 pounds lighter and you're suddenly 80,000 pounds richer - you're the obvious culprit.

Get a lawyer or let it go, those are your only options.

kimblevic · #7 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 01:16 PM

Wise words, Shetlan, and thanks for your suggestions guys!

"Letting go" would be the best option and it sounds like my wife's advice but then there's also something like PRIDE. If someone steals 10k,20k,30k or 80k from you, I'm sure you're not going to say "ah well, at least the sun is still shining..." :-) It doesn't matter whether you've got nothing left or a few million left.

I'll take your advice though to search for another lawyer. I've tried a few, but VERBAL agreements are difficult to prove. I can only prove it with transfers on bank- and broker accounts.

These are not the only options but it all depends on what risks you want to take, hence my original post.

I fully agree that he's not a friend (to anyone).

I won't fuss over the title of the topic - you may be right as I'm not English. I saw it more as recovering debts that the bastard owes me.

DIzzIE · #8 (**permalink**) 07-06-2009, 08:32 PM

Aside from the fact that your whole post reeks of bullshit ("your lawyers" won't take the case because of lack of evidence, even though you say you have "proof" and that the money was all above ground...lol), The Free Living forum is a commerce-free zone...go read the Absolutely no vending, buying or trading sticky.